Ryan Dagari has to Justify
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by Ryan Dagari
Alright, here we go. I'm going to list everything, from names to locations, for everyone to know. Normally, I wouldn't do this, but since Taylor went and made a fool of himself by posting the decision everywhere, now I have to justify it.
Let me get started by saying that normally, my intelligence agency works by gathering information and not making it public unless it should be. That is because most of our information is rather worthless, as things pass over quickly. In terms of congressmen, I will tell everyone now, I have reported congressmen this month and last month for several reasons, but I never made it public.
Want to know why? Because I was wrong. I make decisions to test a hypothesis, and I filter out all the failed attempts and only bring forward ones that are good. The fact that very few to none of these get out is a good thing. It meens we don't have a corrupt government.
What happened recently, was I told Taylor Sawyer (Resurrected) about a breaking headline at my Int. Agency. I was just looking at a few accounts, and I decided to look at ERD's. When I went there, I noted he had donated to Damian D, surprisingly the day Damian was born. Damian was in Indonesia, and only several days old. ERD later told me that Damian was a trapped citizen in Indonesia, but I find that quite... odd... because how can someone be trapped there AFTER the war started? If a new player is creating their person, it's not like they know what regions are controlled by what country. For that reason, having the player with ERD's response as a SA citizen trapped in Indonesia is clearly quite irrational.
I looked into Damian D's donation list, and noticed that every day he has been sending donations to an Italian citizen, only 3 days old. Well, that was pretty odd, wasn't it? The first thing I decided to do was write up my intentions on the Intel-Check in forum and report Damian D as a multi, and in the message I pointed out that ERD might be a possible suspect.
I sent that... what, yesterday? Regardless of whether or not he is guilty, the admins always let you know by an email of their decision. Soon as I get it which SHOULD arrive within 7 days, but at the most 14, I will let everyone see what they say.
I do find ERD's response quite shady, and how he reacted after he found out I reported him makes me think he even has a guilty consensus. I made this decision and didn't let it go because I don't go for corruption. If I find some, or the possibility, I jump on the idea. It's like i'm being thrown a bone, a possible story to follow.
Now, if Taylor wouldn't have run off with his mouth about the report, then none of you would know about it. When I would have gotten the email back from the admins, I would have left it at that if he was innocent. If guilty, articles on the forum and game would be made to discuss why the president was banned, or why he should be impeached (if for some reason the admins are... busy). We were very close to doing it with, wouldn't you know coincidence, the last president. Though the thing with that was, as most of you wouldn't know because we LEFT it at that, is that we didn't get the info ourselves, or at least not all of it. It was mostly based on someone sending a message to Pierric Ross saying the pres. accepted... a lot of money. We close cases though, and I promised Browski that I wouldn't talk about it after the incident.
Overall, I don't owe an apology to anyone. I did what I thought was right, and it seemed like a good idea at the time. It still sounds like a good idea, and if anyone thinks that how I do my job is bad, just look at what happened when I let just a little of it leak to someone not affiliated with my organization.
We should find out later. The thing is, I wasn't trying to take down anyone, I was going what I was told to do. By the Vice President. Run my organization.
On a side note; ERDWURM was trying to make my INTEL agency a secret service, and limit my reports so that they go striaght to him. If he is guilty, this is a point for that.
I'm not keeping any secrets. Ask away. Also, mind your questions, I won't give any info that is obviously an issue for the common public.
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You should of look at the real Traitor, Taylor
Never doubted you.
Whether you are right or wrong is a matter for the admins to decide. This never should have gone beyond that. ERD and Taylor's reaction and ensuing behavior only make them appear guilty of something, whether they are or not. It's unfortunate for them that they do not see that.
I am really quite angry at Taylor for running to the press and citizens with the information. Of all people I thought a reputable member of the cabinet could keep it quiet until it would be proven. He taught me that the only person who will ever learn of my investigations is Brendan.
I won't tell either! 😉
Do you keep track of all persons investigated? Whom else in your agency do you collaborate with, so in other words colleagues, colleagues whom know who you investigate?
If you really want the answer to that put every current member of congress on that list. I check them at least once a month, usually twice (start of term, end of term). Gives me a reason to play Erep.
And no, I don't keep track unless they are guilty. Whether they are or not usually ends up with the admins to decide and half the time they don't reply.
Ryan I have 2 questions for now
1.Who appointed you to this Intel position or this investigation work?
2.Who do you report to now? (Who is your boss)
Ryan how on earth could helping people be shady? Maybe I should stop helping these guys that contact me for advise and help. I was trying to get your service run straight to me as i needed pure info, and you wanted to be under the radar.
Is Brendan your boss maybe?
'no, I don't keep track'
Hmmm...well, that is unacceptable seeing that we are a free society, a democratic society. Therefore, I propose that some sort of system be developed whereby one person can not act alone, one where a second person is involved, and a tracking/history system implemented. This is only reasonable.
Ryan was appointed Intel Minister by VP McGuire during ERD's abscence.
The very nature of intelligence work prohibits the transparency that we all otherwise take for granted in government. It should not be public knowledge how they work or what they do.
The Intel section of the forum provides what little transparency this country can afford in the issue.
'The very nature of intelligence work prohibits the transparency that we all otherwise take for granted in government'
I completely agree, but what I am saying is, is that we need some sort of highly trusted overseer for the Intelligence Dept. perhaps a Vice-Minister whom needs to be informed of all actions and a record made of these actions.
So Dagari reports only to Austerion and not to the cabinet or vp or prez?
Hows that possible?
Do we have a government within a government?
Is the government-within-a-government only checking up on political opponents?
Will i now also be investigated for having multi's?
You are jumping to conclusions, and your 'proof' does not prove anything. I think that you should be permanently removed from the position of Minister for Intelligence.
I also agree with comments posted on other articles; you should be tried under article 8 of the constitution.
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/dagari-accuses-president-erdwurm-of-being-a-multi-733501/1/20
@ ME
No, previously as soon as ERD was elected he required me to stop telling anyone of what I was doing and only report to him. I didn't really do that, because that is an incredibly stupid thing to ask someone. Austerian is the leader of the military, and SAIA is a branch of the military. Austerion is a forum admin. He just seems like the most trustworthy person I can tell things to to make sure that someone knows I wasnt just pulling a plug.
I investigate -EVERYONE- I can for multi's, accepting large amounts of gold, ect. As I said, it isnt a damn prejeduce or anything (but the way you all react is starting to make me think you have prejeduce against -me-) because for the time being, FA has generally had the highest positions. That's your own fault, not mine. If you want to stop being investigated, don't run. It's my job to make sure that no one gets corrupted.
And yes, we do have a government within a government. It goes down many levels. Its called ministries.
@ Ralph
I was not jumping to conclusions. I made my decision to report DAMIAN D, and it was a good decision, based on good judgement. How can a noob know how to find someone in another country the day they are born? How do they know all the mechanics starting from day 1? If he was sending things to his other 3 day old friend, then maybe ERD, who starts at the beginning of the chain, is guilty of having multi-accounts.
See, article 8 of the constitution. So that meens ERD is the state? That sounds dictatorial.
@ Ryan Dagari - of course i have prejudices, i dare say that most people have them. What seems odd to me is that you report to another Minister wheras both of you are ministers of equal rank.
According to the cabinet listing your ministry is not part of any other ministry as you aver, but separate. If you were part of Brendan's ministry then you would not be listed as a separate ministry.
Therefore i cannot agree with your view that you report to Brendan as i do not see how he is your superior.
The fact that you failed to comply with a lawfull presidential order is serious though. Does this also mean that you will ignore Prez Erd's orders on other issues?
Dagari was appointed by me in ERDWURM's under the authority of ERDWURM and approved by ERDWURM. He was to report to ERDWURM, but since ERDWURM was absent, he reported to me for the few days he was actually Intel Minister, as Kiwi had just recently declined the position. He had been checking everyone as far as I know, including myself, so I felt and still feel that he was doing his job. If he is proven correct in this case, he will have shown to have done his job very well. If he is wrong, ERD can remove him as Intel Minister. There is also nothing stopping ERD from removing him now, since his will remain president as long as he is in the game.
Dagari also has no political advantage to gain from this. His intel skills will be proven effective is he is right, but he won't move into any position of power, nor will he be a major candidate in the next election. If he is wrong, he will be thrown out of the cabinet. I fail to see how anyone can reasonably say that Dagari is doing this for some political gain.
I have been sitting in minor parties for a long time and I will never run for BLF's PP, nor will they probobly ever let me. If I wanted political gain and to knock ERD out of this, who would step up? Brendan? Jizzy? Why would they be any different towards what I do?
Trail by media. Batzi has said what is going to happen, as the supreme court judge. So let it go until the outcome. You are all beating a dead hoarse.
Horse meat everyone! Dig in!
'So that meens ERD is the state?'
NO my dear sir, President Erdwurm is a mere ORGAN of the state.
Now, under the constitution, it reads: 'or attempting to overthrow the ORGANS[emp] of government established by this Constitution' emphasis on organs, an organ which a President is, and thus under the constitution.
The President is an ORGAN, and NOT the BODY.
PLEASE read very carefully.
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