Personal response from someone with experience.

Day 336, 23:17 • Published in Indonesia Australia • by zaney

First of all let me say, serenity16 has only been here for 4 months. I'm sorry but your word is worth less than the IDR on matters pre-war. You have 90% of your facts WRONG.

1.Isnuwardana ( the Indonesian president that declared war on Australia) received a private message from the president of Australia (Neo) that offered peace and good relations as neighbours.At the end of that letter, Neo said “If you cannot read English, please forward this to someone who can”
This is not offensive, and Isnuwardana directly LIED about being offended. He has told me in private that the true reasons for war were these points

A: To stimulate the Indonesian economy
B: To give the Indonesian citizens something to do
C: To ‘test’ the war module
😨To bring new Indonesians into the game
E: Because Indonesia wanted to go to war, but was SCARED to move north and confront Pakistan. SCARED TO ATTACK PAKISTAN. So instead Indonesia moved south AWAY from Pakistan to its neighbours.
(I'm sorry to speak about a private discussion between us isnu, but it had to be said, you started the lies in the first place)

After 6 months of my efforts to offer a peaceful solution, you finally gave us one discussion on independence. Do you think it is a co-incidence that you only did this after you heard we have ATLANTIS as our friends? Do you think that is not showing that Indonesia, AGAIN, were acting out of fear?

We did not insult you at the talks (unless someone of my council did after I left, in which case a single person insulting you is not considered an insult to your whole country by Australia, and you are merely lying again) I even apologized for some out-of-turn comments made so that you would feel that we were there as friends. (I would also like to say thank you to Catalog, he did a very good job at remaining neutral and was a very god chairman)

The only reason Indonesia built up the regions they took, was because of market stagnation. If you did not move hospitals to those regions, you would have nowhere else to put them and so your hospital companies would not be as rich as they are now. You PROFITED from it and you are saying it was charity? More lies.

2.Indonesia DID try to write in English at the start, infact a lot of the old blood Indonesians were very polite and hospitable in their papers. I even made the effort to learn a few Indonesian sentences and words at the start because I could see Indonesians trying to be nice back. HOWEVER: over time we became less and less important, over time we were forgotten and more and more Indonesian bias showed up…leading to today, now there is NO effort made to translate to English! …Once it became obvious that this niceness was only a temporary thing, everybody became unhappy.

That also brings up the issue of culture: Indonesian culture is VERY different from ours, our values are different, our jokes are different, and our girls are different…there is no way we can share media.

3.Politics: we wanted 5/6 territories, and you could have Perth (our most rich territory) OR we only wanted 3/6 territories including Perth. We were happy to give you Perth, but we had to work out enough resources for us to live as a prosperous nation.
What do you think Indonesia wanted? Indonesia wants a small country who is always scared of its neighbour, Indonesia wants us to be lapdogs who bark whenever the Indonesian president says so. Indonesia wants to control our economy by giving us only the territories with NO resources!!!
We see through your lies Indonesia…AUSTRALIANS WANT A HOME, AUSTRALIANS WANT AN ECONOMY, AND AUSTRALIANS WANT TO LIVE INDEPENDENT.INDONESIA WANTS TO CONTROL AND OWN.

It's time Indonesia realised it has to be friendly, and we will see you be friendly, even if it means we have to use weapons to do that.


p.s. I always say I support peace before war, if Indonesia thinks again and decides to give us 5/6 regions, OR Perth (we are not greedy, you can have perth but we NEED enough to be able to survive!) I will always be available to organize talks again. Until then Australians will always be ready to fight Indonesian aggression and imperialism.