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STOP TWs!

I'm gonna give a counter point - access to farming is the motivation for our real wars.

We've fought back and forth over China purely because it is space for TWs. Likewise, USA's space for TWs is a huge resource for our country. There isn't a point for us to fight Code for China (or any of their core regions for that matter), other than that it deprives our enemies of TWs and adds space for us. We invade and conquer spaces to convince neutrals to add TWs with us. It's the only thing of value in this game worth fighting for.

I already addressed that in the article. Point 2, Note 1:

Note: You might argue the fact that country X has more TWs than country Y, Therefore country X is getting richer via using more TWs. Well, my answer to that is, first of all, how a country takes advantage of TWs, does not change the true destroying nature of TWs. Secondly, if country Y does not use TWs as smartly as country X, it’s on them. Again it doesn’t change the nature of TWs whatsoever.
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Yes i understand, for example USA, or Poland can come here and say we got richer because of TWs. But still the fact that a country using them more intelligently, does not change the destructive nature of TWs. I’m talking about the “nature” of it. But while we are deep into it, of course it’s wise to use them to our advantage.

My point is the majority of campaigns in the last year have been related to our invasion and defense of China, which were motivated by wanting to control that area to have TWs.

btw, at one point this data was available, but Asteria was farming like 5x more gold than CODE was (this was like 6 months ago).

Oops, 5x is a lot.
I think the data is still available on erep box, just not getting updated.

8-10 years ago TWs were rare, China and USA regions were tranquil and undisturbed, hadn't changed owner for years. Yet, alliances had more motivation to fight than now and the game was more interesting.

o/ get to the Choppa

I'll also note that majority of epics today were real wars:

11 real air epics today, and 4 TW air epics

12 real air epics now.

Yeah my bad i thought hydras were TWs.

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Country ultimately seeks its own security and strength, for itself and for citizens. Having resources, gold, is way to increase that, fuel to your aspirations. Without gold, you cant buy good stuff and your country cant prosper as the one that has resources, gold. So seeking new TW, to get people rich and then spend it in your nations ambitions, it is natural and good. But the main thing here, how big importance we put into chasing TWs and fighting real battles. I farm, and then to spend it all in nations ambitions, security, strength, prosperity for citizens.

You are absolutely right. The thing is once you get into the “farming dopamine cycle” it is SOOOOO HARD to keep it balanced. Eventually the conflict of interests between farming vs real battles would dominate the majority of players / nations…

You need to also think about the trade-off of things.
There are fewer and fewer of players everyday who think like you. TWs will make people numb to real battles in the long run and change their priorities. Again i’m talking about the nature of TWs and what they do to the culture. Not about a specific country or individual who uses them more wisely or not.

I see this trend too, unfortunately, that people put more importance on self goals, medals, than nation and community goals...but still, I dont think all is lost and as was said, we should focus on what we can change, in government behaviour, about TWs aso..becasue government officials give the directions, news, policy

100. If somebody can change a thing it’s government leaders.

I would add point 9. TWs killed the game

Infantry and maverick killed the game

so greed from both sides killed the game

Don’t forget that i got banned yesterday morning…

as a relatively new player TW and farming is all I care about, you old dogs can go start some real sh*t

I agree 100%. Training wars and usage of multi accounts is killing this game. It is becoming boring.

Well .... I agree and disagree with your point of view. Yes, the TWs are killing the game but we have to remember that the game is already dead. The only reason most people still login is because of the time they invested in the game already. There are not enough players willing to dedicate their time to this "money grab" game which is now just an ATM for Plato.

The fact there are less and less people who are willing to dedicate time and effort into leading and building things is also another HUGE issue. Requires a whole new article…

For example very few people that are criticizing the in-balances in game / alliances are actually willing to put effort into leading a new one. And it takes real effort to do such things.

Maybe another effect of the TE culture is they made the game more casual than it was supposed to be… this game is in no way a casual game for the competitive (leadership) positions.

And sorry, who’s plato again? xD

I think that because there's no people (or very few) willing to put in the time to lead countries/alliances is the reason why TWs are ok for me; it give me the pleasure of doing what I couldn't do before : gather gold and cc to do what I couldn't do before. I wouldn't have played it otherwise, as I really have no other reason to do so. If there were people willing to put in the time (most of us are grown ups now with IRL priorities) to trully lead countries and alliances to war, I would probably still only participate ocasionally due to the limited amount of time available to play it.

If you never farm you will have uninteresting battles with only food energy spent 😁

If you always farm you will have uninteresting batlles with only TWs 😁

So it comes like an evidence that the right path is to have TWs and real wars. That is what is happening.

If this game can become boring for some of us that's due to 2 factors. 1) when you become an old player of a game the only point that can arise your interest is important updates. 2) important updates comes up with a game having a large audience. Badly Erep is still alive but under perfusion.

Anyway I like the way you write your articles often with a bit of provocation so it can goes fun and open debates and that's what erep players needs. Bravo !

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I came back to the game during covid after a 4 year hiatus and i was shocked with the boring farming culture that had developed. 4 years later its still boring so i snipe my fellow countrymen keeping score to pass the time. i also found if you question this culture it quickly attacks you. Hence the sniping in my case lmao.

Great article btw

My pleasure o/

Yes, disagreements and attacks are part of this game. Specially when you question something that many people regularly do.

Nobody wants you messing with there free easy to grind gold. Thats why i snipe them so its not so easy to farm. Plus it creates some competition, activity and banter even if most of them hate me for it.

Key is to have real war battles planned for events that will lead to epics which equals fun for players fighting in them.

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You said it right there mate: "Nothing changed!"

So if nothing changed, why not have 10000 golds instead of 1000 golds. The eWorld is like the real world, the breaking point is not reached yet. Majority of people are still content with things. You're trying to change their mind with these articles but nobody knows if you'll succeed. But if and when the time comes, it will change. If not then it just means that the game ran its course. And thats okay. I'm sure everyone will say, "I'm here for the people I meet anyway". I mean if you think that "real wars" will bring people back or make them happier, you're just looking that from the other side of the river mate, nobody ever is happy. Majority or minority. And they make the game we play. I'm pretty sure I know what the majority thinks right now, and so do you.

I’m not trying to change anybody’s mind. Specially for TWs it’s stupid! Obviously i said it myself we are too deep in the farming culture right now…

Reason i write articles is i like discussion and finding balance in things.

Sometimes making people angry, or attacking their mindsets is not bad imo. There’s always a spectrum in category of different things/mindsets.

i. e. IRL some people are too liberal, some people are too conservative. But when 80% of people lean towards the liberal mindset, having a too conservative voice becomes necessary in order to balance things out… if you know what i mean.

relativization 🙂

FU

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Playing eRep and being neutral is the same that playing Farmville...

Farmville killed this party scene a few years back. I understand as to why to have TWs: ranking up, building strength and now protector points and other asorted things.
TWs are basically a verion of RL military maneuvers which is a good thing.
But TWs have become a main focus and total farmville is not a good thing.
The turnout for RW engagements is dismal. People have become so conditioned to farm gold that they bypass their eNations real battles for a fistful of shiny rocks. They figure "fuk it somebody else will lay damage so it is cool for me to chase the carrot on the stick."
That is the most negative aspect of Total Farmville. We play as individuals chasing individual goals instead of fighting for our communities.Farmville has had a major negative impact on the social aspect of this game which was the main draw at it's core.
Of course the massive amount of cheating by both allaiances via bot armies does not help the cause.


Anyway thanks for another good article.
Your media gets people interacting with each other (socializing) which ia a major social positive.

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Farmville!

Your article shows you don't really fight in real wars 🙂

I just want my damn retirement with farming 😁

I'm in this game for almost 15 years now, and I personally am fed up with wars

2. Depends on how hardworking people used to be. Some would wake up early and go to bed late just to farm a lot more than the average joe, and in turn after big wars they had bigger ranks because they had more farm to spend. But nowadays with the scrips everyone farms equally agreed.
5. Poland was surviving for a long time even before TWs were used en masse xd
7. I remember the hype when Legend ranks were introduced, it was a big deal to have 1 or 2 Legend ranks. Now you can buy a bunch of EBs with your 50k gold stash and get 500 legend ranks if they werent capped at 20. The scaling got out of hand.

The part about Poland was about, a FOREVER NEUTRAL country like what Poland is currently could not survive without TWs. Poland today is a whole different country that what it was years back…

Well i dont know poland today but in general i would disagree that a forever neutral country would die out with TWs. The humans that make up the country will keep logging in and fap on their stockpiles even if the whole game died, their brain gets accustomed to the low-effort logins.

Well, then it depends what you call “surviving”… yeah, many countries are surviving with a few players and no Golds or Money or Bonuses or Regions… But en Empire, Prospering, with lots of players? Nah… Couldn’t exist like that without TWs.

Having TW with allies is basic strategy to cover, delay, jump and so on that it can be used when attacking as much as while defending