[Debate] Blacklisting congress member odan based on racism
Day 4,341, 23:32
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Greetings, citizens of Netherlands,
a new debate has been started at the request of Congress member Koning Der Zeeuwe.
In his personal article Koning Der Zeeuwe wrote the following text.
My crew members,
You, like me, will have learned in the meantime that there is quite a struggle going on in Parliament as to whether we should keep both our finance minister and the head of our parliament in his status.
In my opinion, therefore, primarily as a Member of Parliament, I have no choice but to address this point.
I personally see nothing more and nothing less about these motions if an attack does not post on the ministers or that of the chairman. If that actually has only one real purpose and that is to blame a player. And that is because, as it appears in the messages linked to the motion, he is not of Dutch origin.
In my opinion, as a player with a Dutch background, this should never be a reason not to trust a player and to deprive him of the opportunities in the game.
therefore I propose to start a vote for blacklisting odan for racism.
Your captain,
Koning der Zeeuwe
His request for a blacklist vote will be debated in the comment section of this article.
The proposal has not been voted upon due to the request of its author.
Janty F and Shawtyl0w
CoC Team
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A blacklist is at this moment for the reasons mentioned taking it too far. Yes, the constant 'pretend' Dutch-speaking to exclude non-native speakers, the threatening of normal functioning of country by voting almost everything down by default, the abusive filibustering of the Motion of No Confidence are all very annoying and so and so forth - and if the tables were turned odan would be the first to call for blacklist based on a long history!
But we don't have to go so low as to exclude people in addition to the good work of odan in regards of that already, unless something truly awful happens.
Ridiculous proposal is ridiculous.
The reasoning might be a tad off.. But do keep in mind that your Party President has been increasingly isolating himself in combination with ''annoying'' and hurtful behaviour. The fact that it is Koning der Zeeuwe as proposer, someone who just a few months ago worked together with I&W in CP elections, should tell you enough, just as the increasing number of others who raise their concerns over some questionable behaviour.
But we all know this blacklist will not pass 🙂 But odan is playing very much with fire. Everyone is entitled to his own (political) opinions, but when one arguably starts hurting the country and causing chaos - don't be surprised if people will eventually get fed up and act upon it: Let's hope it doesn't come to that, though. I know what it is like to be hated by a majority of the country and continuously threatened to be blacklisted and that is not fun for anyone or the country.
Racism would not be a reason for me. Yes, he acts like a small child talking Dutch now while alway rediculing it in the past when someone did. Two measues as always sadly. But he’s consistent with that.
Obstructing normal functioning of congres and gov along with a few other matters for me could (become) a reason for me to want him be put on the blacklist along with his other accounts. Proof of the latter or not...
dus monddood maken van de oppositie zonder een grammetje bewijs is voor jou geen probleem....
Sure that is. However i expect opposition to back claims with proof and be open about why they are against something. If they are not they are just trolling. A tactic you adopted a while back when you lost power and increased when forum was abandoned. Ever since all kind of accounts, clearly managed by one and the same, are just trolling and obstructing. Plus all kind of new accounts pop-up or longer excisting ones surface to support them.
As long as you act respectfully and in the best interest of eNL you can be against anything you want. But be open about it and tell us why.
I for one believe that blacklisting someone is a last resort. We are playing this game as democracy and voices are heard. Although I agree that it seems like most of odan's actions have been targetted to the same person I don't believe rasicm is the word to use. A personal grudge maybe, one based on a different vision on financial matters. The various MoNCs are the result of this, MoNCs that take away the focus from other debates and MoNCs I don't support.
Geen racisme. Wel opkomen voor onze prachtige taal!
In mijn ogen is hebt Nederlands ook zeker niet het probleem. Echter als je volledig op 1 persoon gaat omdat hij niet Nederlands is en daarnaast ook hem voor alles en nog wat uitscheld gaan we niet de goede kant op in mijn ogen.
voor alles en nog wat uitscheld... vertel mij eens waar en wanneer heb ik dat zogenaamd gedaan?
In my opinion blacklisting is too much, he have the right to stay with us, HOWEVER consider banning Odan from congress for week/month. Hope this will help to cool down his behavior and play with us together properly.
http://prnt.sc/phszwf
Just random screenshot from my odan folder - he himself suggests people should get blacklisted for defamations (which is he currently doing on unprecedented scale 🙂 )
trek het lekker even uit de context.
je was geen lid van congres in die tijd en kon dus geen stemmingen starten. een lid van congres deed dat wel, maar de stemming die hij startte paste niet in jouw straatje.
And that's why I am in that Congress message as Congress Member - because I was not a Congress member, according to your claim. Jeez, it was harder to pin down your lies in the past, but now you just serve them on a platter.
You know what... someone once sai😛
"perhaps congress should focus on the defamation you are doing, perhaps with a blacklist"
... I think we should follow this advice 🙂
mensen in de regering zitten ook in dat algemene prive bericht.
dus in plaats van anderen van leugens te beschuldigen, ga eens je eigen feiten op een rij zetten.
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Věř, čemu chceš... nemá smysl se s tebou hádat, když pro svoji zaslepenost nedokážeš poznat pravdu. Ztráta času, který mohu věnovat práci pro tuto zemi.
Doufám ale, že dostojíš svým slovům, a necháš se odsoudit zas své urážlivé výroky - přesně tak, jak jsi to sám chtěl 🙂 .
helaas voor jou is Tsjechisch geen taal die wij gebruiken in eNL.
maar ik zal voor mensen de vertaalde versie plaatsen:
"Geloof wat je wilt ... het heeft geen zin ruzie met je te maken als je de waarheid voor je blindheid niet kunt weten. Tijd verspillen die ik voor dit land kan doorbrengen.
Maar ik hoop dat je je woorden waarmaakt en opnieuw veroordeeld wordt door je aanstootgevende uitspraken - net zoals je het wilde hebben"
ik geloof in de waarheid en de waarheid is dat je geen congreslid was. je was wel een lid van de regering. als lid van de regering had je het recht om een debat te starten. maar je had het recht niet om een stemming te starten.
heb nog steeds geen aanstootgevende uitspraken gezien overigens.
لا تنس أن أقلية كبيرة تتحدث العربية في هولندا
Google translate stojí za starou belu 😉
I kdybych nebyl členem parlamentu (jak tvrdíš) - jak to vysvětluje, že bylo zahájeno hlasování ohledně něčeho, co nebylo vůbec debatováno, a jak to vysvětluje, že předseda parlamentu odmítl zahájit debatu, i když to po něm bylo požadováno? Myslel, jsem, že za podobné věci strana Železa a Vína uděluje MoNC jako na běžícím páse... ovšem pouze pokud předseda není jedním z nich V tom případě je všechno zcela legální, i když je to v rozporu se zákonem.
Každopádně za to zde obžalován nejsi (bohužel)...
als de CoC weigert om 1 van de 2 officiële talen in eNL te gebruiken heeft het geen nut om verder met hem te debatteren.
Nevšiml jsem si, že by tady předseda parlamentu dělal nějaká oficiální prohlášení, která by byla jazykově limitována... ale jsem si jistý, že tak jako tak se to pokusíš zveličit pro nějaké své další hlasování o nedůvěře, kvůli kterým ostatně tato debata vznikla 🙂
Andale, pues... 😉