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I assume we talk about Black Friday, right?

Considering that the right procedure is the transfer of 10G each day, that would mean it would take a long time yes, might as well wait till November, then. Unless we buy out Shawtyl0w for one of his companies on Black Friday-value or something creatively thought.

Well, he already has Q7 factory existing, so it can be nationalized by using some communist methods 😂 .

I just do not see "November" or "Black Friday" mentioned anywhere in the text, so I believe citizens could use bit more info to get the right idea.

That is for you to decide.

Black friday is on 29th november. It is 163 days till black friday. I can buy the company 34 days from now.

Total Q7 tanks I can produce in those other 129 days = 2,451 (2,451 if price drops * 85 cc each = 208.335 cc or 245 gold (at 850 cc each).

1230 gold * 0.25 (the low estimate discount) = 307.5 gold
1230 gold * 0.3 = 369 gold

So buying now would result in a 307.5 - 245 = 62.5 gold or 369 - 245 = 124 gold loss.


As for Tonies remark on taking one of my current companies. I'm really not a fan as you can imagine hehe

Our Treasury prefers to save Gold, instead of weapons (which are more plentiful), especially given the recent CP article...

... so the decision is quite clear, (and always was), I would say 😉

23rd of November 🙂

ohhh Feynmann, google said the 29th hehe (2019) in 2018 it was on the 23rd.

We'll see on 23rd 🙂

Is that a WAM only by Shawty Q7 tank company you wanna build (re: the calculations above) or you guys have an actual communie?

We HAD communes... but in this case it will start as a WAM commune yes where my WAM weapons go 100% to the state..

I could also provide jobs for people of course (like I am doing now) there are several constructions possiblenin terms of getting paid.

Well if you can afford it and all and transfer 10 G every day till black friday you can almost make 2 Q7 tank companies - you will need have 164 daysx10 = 1640G and for 2x Q7 the cost will be 2x10+2x854 = 1728.

The missing 88 Gold you can get by selling a few, say food companies to some gov member, who will get that gold from the state (10 at a time). You can arrange the returning of the food companies later. That way you can transfer more than the 88 G at a time without being affected by the daily gold limit.

Glad to see you all buzzing Good luck o7

PS: Or another option - Training grounds 2,3,4 downgrade - 3x85 = 255G. Tr grounds upgrade discount happens regularly so it won't be that big of a deal

"and transfer 10 G every day till black friday you can almost make 2 Q7 tank companies"

That sounds like a great fun for Minister of Finances to do that!

My plan is to buy 1 Q7 weapons company myself during blsck friday. And if gov wants me to buy one as well for commune use/daily weapon production for e.g. the green beret program I will buy two. I'm already buying 10 gold every day 🙂

https://youtu.be/4hGQ97tCTOs

To give congress some additional background information.

I already have all the raw material companies required to be selfsuffient in production. I've also told ElGorro that I would pay for the work tax (raw material) myself.

For the record. The idea is to be ready and buy the company when the discount is there. I seem to failed to add that in the debate text.

Would be nice to see an economic estimation of what would be going on. Days to payback the investment and that kind of stuff.

It would be year and few months, if Shawtyl0w will pay taxes and raws (meaning change in their prices will have no effect on the ROI), prices of tanks will remain around the same level (they mostly stay around 95 cc lately, except events), and we would build it on Black Friday with 30% discount (which we expect to happen). President was informed on all of that, and has taken that knowledge into consideration before his proposal was published

Perfect, a year and a few months sounds reasonable to me. We are talking about only WaM, right? What if we employ people? Is that being considered? (the state would be effectively buying tanks at a discount since it does not pay the "premium", only the production costs and it may make sense given that we are giving tanks in the Green Beret initiative)..

That year and a few month is Work As Manager (WaM) only yes. I can accept employees sure but they will need to be paid in weapons probably. The cost of WRM for employees will not be paid by me. I will substract those costs from the number of weapons they help me to produce so that will not pay for the factory unless you can find people willing to work at a discount of let's say 10 -12 weapins per work which would result in 4 extra weapons for the gov per work.

Not necessarily in my opinion, Shawty, the first assumption is that the cost of production (WAM and tax included) is lower than the price of the weapons. If that is the case, and assuming the government needs weapons for programs such as Green berets, it would make sense to hire people to work in the communes. Lets say that 10 weapons are sold at 100 and production costs are 90. If the gov pays their salaries, the WAM and the raw materials it is still a good deal because it would have needed to buy the weapons from the market anyway. The effect is even higher if the gov is buying them abroad because it will not need to pay taxes.

If we do not need the weapons for programs, the government could even sell them in the market and collect nice profits. This of course has "management" costs for you, the need to be buying stuff and paying attention, but if you are ok with I do not think it makese sense to have those slots empty.

Another option is to allow you to use those slots as compensation for the management of the commune. Both options are ok with me.

Current salary is +/- 1800cc thats +/-19 weapons. In other words full production. WRM = +/- 250 cc per work. You as an economic person would not work for less than 1750cc. So at the moment this is not an option. Its cheaper to buy these weapons of the market unless people get paid less like I said.

When salaries drop it is viable but that will also have an affect on other prices.

As for compensation I already have two Q7 weapon companies and only 1 employee who works twice a day. I can produce 8-9 times more weapons if I had more employees.

I see, salaries are like this because of Tycoon pack or people going crazy again?

Because after removing CO's, people no longer seem to care about how much currency is spent, because that matters is Gold. And the amount of plaxers in the game is shrinking = your employees are dying, and you need to increase efforts to find new ones. In order to keep profit though with higher salaries, you need to make the houses you produce more expensive, which will force it's buyers to demand higher salaries to afford them.

It's an ugly spiral 😃 .

The only worker will not demand crazy salary rises 😃 . Since it is part of citizens duty to help out.

Nuttu ia my employeee and i already gave him three raises because I'm not horrible