eRepublik and moral justifications
Korosh.
The point of this article is that I've been seeing a lot of calls to morality recently, so I decided to address it from my "VERY SUBJECTIVE" point of view.
There has been an unspoken rule for some time that whenever your country attacks, or gets attacked, no matter how weak the opponent is, it's always you are fighting "against the odds" or you're "David vs Goliath", or some other form of moral justification for your actions. It seems to me people feel the need to justify their wars or their actions from a point of view of “I have better morals than you,” even though that is extremely subjective.
Let me do a little recap of events:
1. USA Airstrikes Croatia. I don't want to mention Croatia does almost 3x our damage, because it is irrelevant. The responsibility of the war is in our hands, because we decided to Airstrike on our own. We don’t even need a “valid” reason to, because no reason is objectively “valid.” Nobody has the right to say an attack is unjust or unfair, an attack is simply an attack.
2. Croatia beats us. "Against all odds" as some would put it. Fair enough, absolutely nothing wrong with losing. We have no reason to complain about it, you’re stronger, and it was an expected outcome. Well done.
3. Croatia thinks now they have a “moral responsibility” to show their “craziness, bravery, morality” to the world by going against “big bad USA” for "revenge". Croatia attacks USA.
4. USA tries its hardest, but Croatia does more damage and wins the Airstrike. Again, completely fair.
5. Croatia gets airstriked by our alliance, and nobody from the Croatian side helps them. They fight all alone, whereas we have our whole alliance ready to fight directly the moment our cores are threatened.
In my opinion, virtue lies in actions and not intentions. You say you are brave and fight wars without fear (I don't know exactly what constitutes fear in an online game, but ok). You think this makes your cause just and moral.
But are your intentions more valuable than the results? Are your intentions more virtuous than their consequences?
It doesn’t matter if you call American strategies immoral or what not, the fact is that USA is the currently longest standing nation in eRepublik and a bastion of stability and success(both internationally and intra-nationally), whereas Croatia is wiped by Serbia most of the time, your people don't have bonuses, you don't have regions, you have no allies to help you, you can't even help your allies because your people don't make money from any companies, and waste their energy bars in useless wars. Even if your allies needed your help and called you for it, and you accepted their request, simply because of your "morality" your side has no strength to help each other, and no money for CO's because you have no income from taxes. You are outnumbered, out-powered, outgunned. Did your “morals” help your citizens in any way? Are they really the “morals” to have at this point if they cause the death of your country and your allies? Is this type of hyper-masculine/macho bravery resulting in anything other than your defeat?
On the other hand, USA is one of the richest countries in eRepublik. We are pragmatic, our priorities are our citizens, not a moral high ground. We don’t need to justify our actions in any way other than our need to survive. And look at the result. We are the leaders of one of the most stable, thriving alliances, in that we have helped our "core members" for years without any real danger to their sovereignty. On paper, our alliance is weak. But because of our ruthless pragmatism, our allies have money, our opinion matters in the eWorld, our alliance has the most bonuses per member, none of us are wiped.
So, tell me, where did this "morality" take you? Did your morals improve the lives of your citizens? Every year you have fewer allies. Every year you have less income and less regions. Every year the damage output from your side is lesser. You are losing wars. And all of this for what? So that you can win arguments on article comments? After getting kicked from Sirius/EDEN, we manage create our own bloc. We started from nothing after getting kicked from Sirius, and you had a stack of allies. And look where we are today, and where you are.
Who is more virtuous? The one who screams morality, or the one who produces results?
Korosh
Comments
stopped reading after this "going against “big bad USA” for absolutely no reason"
cheap propaganda
ahahahahahaahhaha 😃 😃 😃
you edited article when you realized how shallow your bull**** is to:
"“craziness, bravery, morality” to the world by going against “big bad USA” for "revenge". Croatia attacks USA."
can't even stick to the story and propaganda, no wonder you're a joke and needed a 5 countries backup to win the war you started yourself 😃
Dude... It's Balkans... You can't understand that xD
If you don't move, you're going to get all our Balkans stuff on yourself xD
LOL!
your responsibility is to be boring as hell. i d rather play 1 day with Croats and nations alike, then 10 years with farmers
They cabt understand us
Well... Remember what happened when you attacked Croatia and when they ASed you in return.
Now look at Finland.
Ring a bell?!
I really think not. 🙂
" After getting kicked from Sirius/EDEN, we manage create our own bloc. "
I see you know nothing about e-history. We were not kicked from EDEN, we've left. You forget the CoT era, where we flip-flopped to suite former enemies, flip-flopped again, failed in establishing CTRL aso.
The problem with the eUSA is that it will never acknowledge it's inferior to stronger e-countries, always wants to dictate their policies to other allies. eUSA take orders from no one & fights only for it's own interests. And we are arrogant as we have the most arrogant & egoistical player, Wild Owl in charge of our foreign politics for years now.
You think that this is the end now?
You think other bigger countries will not want to grab our resources, now, as they have seen what at paper tiger we really are?
Will you then accept these airstrikes & attacks the same way as you did this one?
Or will you come whining about how unfair it is when we will be military overpowered by stronger nations?
We soon will see.
What "we."
You're not on Team America. You're on Team Valiant Thor.
No. You're on them "Idiots United"!
That's not a sentence.
You're still an idiot.
All you have is insults and vitrol, nothing more; nothing substantial.
You will soon get a substantial wipe. Hope you won't complain.
The most enjoyable part of being an American is doing whatever you want and not worrying about the consequences.
Results are that balkan is stonger than all the world.
Objective and fair.
Croatia pressed its hand too far and now will once again be wiped as the result.
By whom?! 😁
dude? seriously? even with the help of your entire alliance you were getting your ass whopped. let me elaborate, you needed 60 mil of cc (at least, probably more), 5 as's and entire alliance to beat one country. now tell me, who pressed their hands too far?
Presumably the side that lost, don’t you think?
i agree. the side that started the war and was loosing on every front until they put in action their entire alliance, big chunk of their reserves, 4 airstrikes, raised their taxes and that's only things we could see, god knows what was happening behind the curtains. you went too far, you got slapped. you can lie to yourselves that you won in the end or you can learn something from it. it's up to you
So we:
1,) Strengthened our alliance
2.) Spent CC not gold (from our very sizeable piggy bank, which we can now replenish at our leisure)
3.) Wiped Croatia
I love how you guys try to recast defeat as victory, because you’re so loses to losing it’s all you know how to do.
1) Lost MPPs mutual with eCroatia, some will never be renewed
2) You can't take more then 400k/24h out, dream on
3) Quite an accomplishment, nobody has done that before
3 reasons that confirm once again what an idiot you are.
I rest my case.
Normally I don't respond to Rosa comments but:
1.) To our benefit - we found out some allies weren't true friends and I'm always happy to see that shake loose.
2.) The more time goes on the more obvious it is you don't understand math.
3.) Winning is winning.
"Prince Rezo 207Prince Rezo Day 3,734, 13:48
Report USA won the "achievement" of prooving they cannot defend themselves against a country that has been deleted for years and at war for almost a decade.
Croatia earned respect with whole world.
Hats off to Croats o/
Vote 30"
I've seen a like of Croatians saying that, but no one else. Does that make you feel better?
Also, yes, a country that out damages us 3 to 1, we couldn't win against on our own, but, it looks like we have better friends than Croatia does.
That's why I cited the name of a person that wrote the comment as well. Check it, he's Spanish 😉
Ма фармат цемо вас до бола!
Google-translate it, whale!
Ya'll lost. Their avatars pressed fight more than your avatars pressed fight. What exactly are ya'll arguing about? Erep is stupid, remember? Who cares who wins stuoid?
Wow this was well put together.
While I disagree with your evident conclusion that might makes right, and I think there is more than one interpretation of eHistory, I really respect your taking the time to make your argument, giving us all something to think about. A little reflection can make the eWorld a better and more interesting place.
he edited article at least 3 times when we pointed out to c*ap he said 😉
he didn't take time to make his argument, he threw in bunch of stuff and hoped it'd make sense to others as much as it did to him 😉
That was my mistake, I hoped it would make as much sense to others as it did to me.
Which is why I edited it once to add 1 word so that it would make sense to you and help you understand what I was getting at. But you've clearly missed the point.
nope. i didn't. i copied 2 versions which influence the theme of your article a lot in the first comment of this article. so glad I did the first one before you changed it, now you can't hide it 😉
go back to owl and his theories that we have oil or whatever he came up with today
Voted! Good read!
good job 🙂
Ма где си, снајка? Среди ми пасош!
e ako nisam znao da si botina XD
@rosa Ja sam snajka, mogu da činim čuda
@gorki Ko je bot?
Gorki is drunk, again 😁
o7
give comment, will try to read later.
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Be fair about weakness, be fair about the strong points. It is a game, morality is important but is better be found in the behaviour of individuals.
v and e
usa has 54 regions is natural that stay intact most of the time, this is no matter of good strategy but simply mathematic
"We are the leaders of one of the most stable, thriving alliances"
is that why Hungary was heavy fighting for Croatia, against USA, a member of their alliance? 😃
or, when Poland Airstriked Turkey, and USA signed MPPs with Turkey, greece, Albania etc..
Doesnt sound like stability or unity to me.. 🙂
I've put more thoughts on it in my article
As the West trembles [Severrus]
erepublik.com/en/article/2663694/1/20
We never signed Albania MPP.