Inevitable Resignation from Fhaemita III
konnes
You have probably all noticed that we have lost a wonderful citizen and person yesterday, Mata. We were all shocked by this news, and had our condolences ready for the family, but there were also people who could not give their condolences as they should. We are talking about our current president and dictator. Their reaction on the article where is told that Mata has passed was very disrespectful and sickening:
For those who don’t know what he means with this reaction, you can read this here: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=exit+stage+left
Even more, on this comment there was another reaction from our dictator with a link to a picture. This is, for us, the straw that breaks the camel's back.
Legendardisch
I feel ashamed for what I did and took part of. Tonie, you are right, there is elitism, but not by political parties, but by vocal individuals high up in their self established air castles.
And I have been part of it like a guard dog barking at everyone.
I feel bad. But now it was the last straw, the ridiculing of the dead of a beloved person is just disgusting and sickening to me that it opened my eyes again. I have hurt people with words, and made an arse of myself in their amusement. It takes courage for someone to say this. But i ain't. I can be direct and harsh. I know. But I am also just, and I lacked the latter mostly.
This is not for forgiveness but a statement. I step down because I lost track of myself.
Konnes
I know that I just started playing the game actively a couple of weeks ago, but in the time I was here, I have seen a lot happen, and I indeed think that things have to change. The comment that the president made on the article that told that Mata had passed was disrespectful. And even if you believe that it is some kind of ‘joke’, this is not the way a president should express himself. And I want to be clear about this, I have seen and heard a lot of evidence this is not a ‘joke’. With all the other things that happened, I resign, not to bother the country, but just symbolic, since there are only 3 days left.
Because of the events mentioned in this article, we have decided to not take part any longer in the government of Fhaemita III and hereby resign from our positions.
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The correct definition
"From the direction in theatrical scripts: "Exit stage left", thus marking the disappearance of a character from the stage in the normal manner."
Also people should have come to me if they had a problem
Its awesome to see how you try to change it. Its still a sad joke.
And I don't take kindly with people who joke on dead like this.
we had a problem, and we thought that we weren't able to further work at your office, this is the same reason you gave for firing Kordak, and as you can read in the link, 'exit stage left' means also something else, and we resigned with all the respect.
and also, this was not the only reason for us to resign
I don't take kindly with people who get played like a fool by someone who stages his own death for attention. If you are not able to see through that, I doubt your intellectual capacities in cabinet functions.
This was also one fucking cowardly move.
sure right whatever. So I saw a ghost coronor? and we dont live near eachother? maybe you guys need to take a break from the game so we can start an actual eNL Recovery plan.
Suuuuuure. Because there are registered families from NL or Ukraine with FFI. Wait there aren't. Because FFI happens when you're between 20 and 30. Wait it doesn't.
It can happen at ANY point in live. but hey you like to have your little complot theories well here i have one for you. Why did Steve win? why even when mata had the support of MdR? seems to be happening somewhere too right? ah no you are all a just bunch anyone who opposes you is not. she opposed you so you had to ridicule. now she is dead, you still ridicule her. can you live with that? or do you want to see here lifeless body to accept it?
Alright, provide me with that lifeless body. My complot theories keep this country safe. I never made any allegations regarding the what and how of Mata inside GPN so it's a nonsense point to bring up.
Also why the hell did you supposedly see a coroner, you only knew her through erep?
She told me she lived in the same neighborhood as I was before she died. Then I saw the coroner, and then the article. connection made. and you are sick. did pride sunk to your head?
How can something sink to my head? The article came much later than the actual time of death by the way. And rest assured that when someone dies there is no chance that just a coroner shows up. You need a qualified person to establish death, and a coroner isn't. It does not require an ambulance per se, but it would require a doctor.
Garmr, you want us to provide you with a lifeless body? - if you would have been a bit respectful we could have probably did something to show, but as you have been unrespectful to my whole familly, I will not take the trouble in doing so.
And she and her biological family are registered, so if you want to show your proof they are not, be my guest in doing so, make sure you do contact the hospitals here in The Netherlands, you do know what answer you will get?
The age part is just stupidity from your side, go check here if you are really so sure of yourself: http://www.medlink.com/cip.asp?UID=mlt0004y&src=Search&ref=41023227
Could you now please leave our family alone?
I did not in any way contact your family and am in no way responsible for any aggravation, you came here to read this article and its comments and pretty quick too. Why?
i read it quick because of this http://prntscr.com/6ou2ak
we just had the feeling that we weren't able to work with the president, because we haven't have the same idea any more. this is better than what happened around Kordak.
Which is what idea exactly?
i mean the same ideals
Which are what ideals exactly? I disagreed with the immigration policy as well, but in 3 days Arcanic could have changed that. So that's no reason to suddenly quit.
we resigned symbolicaly, just because we wanted to show that we disagreed with him, not to bother anything or anyone
There is a difference between doubting someone and express your doubts.
Especially in an inappropriate situation.
Thank you a lot for saying my sister has faked her own death for attention, you should look at how your response does look on the other side, you are having some attention seeking problems yourself?
she is not a he, so the word his should be her, grammer is a hard thing i would say.
i hope some will be just as unrespectful when you happen to die some day, as you could have just shown a bit of respect or even asked people to get confirmation, as there are multiple people with the e-mail of her and also mine.
to stay in your style, i highly doubt your 'intellectual capacities'
I apologize for both of these s. Their disrespect is deplorable. I respect those who resigned from their posts because of this. Lilya, my prayers and those of many others are with your family. Don't let these two losers nullify that ever-so-important fact.
Bad response, you basicly forgot the Golden Rule!
Admittedly, my name-calling was probably a little harsh. However, the fact that we're praying for her and her family doesn't mean that the disrespect of our CP and dictator are undeplorable.
Gezeik = activiteit = goed
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Also, you think that urban dictionary has the correct definition?
Everybody can post a word and a definition there for "exit stage left" is clearly not the correct one like I explained.
I think Urban Dictionary is correct in the way you used it to be fair.
Actually you are wrong, "exit stage left" is a term from theather that a person leaves the stage. That is what is really means and that is what I meant.
I do think the remark of Fheamita is inappropriate, but Urban Dictionary isn't a reliably source at all....
The reason I stepped down immediately as Minister of Recruitment & Coaching is that I don't want to be associated with a President who is stating these kinds of things. I dissociate myself from his statements and leave my office.
Because personal feelings weigh higher than a responsability to the country.
Me leaving my office doesn't mean the country will face a complete breakdown. The Ministry is in good hands.
In the end, this offends me personal feelings, which weigh indeed higher than my position at MoRC, right now, with only three days to go.
I got the same reasons as Spir Tus has stated here above me. I cannot find myself in the statement of the President. I wouldn't have stepped down if it was just an ordinary disagreement, that would be foolish, but this went morally to far for me and thus I stepped down.
really? quitting over somebody that is trying to get some kind of Internet 15 minutes of fame....
Stop. Just stop. Think of the pain Mata's family has gone through. Give them some respect.
That you call out someone dying a 15 minute of fame act is just sickening.
I do not care to react on people that are unrespectful to my family members in a more extended way then this.
I'm only speaking the truth.
I looked it up too and thought: this can never be what he meaned. As someone with some stage experience, I interpreted it as: "An actor left the stage, not to return."
The cabinet members should have contacted the president, ask for an explanation first before taking this kind of actions. I respect each and every one on that list, but I do not understand their action.
The reasons behind those comments are clear to us and also confirmed by Fhaemita and Garmr. They think Mata's death is a joke. I just don't want to be associated with a president who thinks like this. Even when it turns out this was a joke, I think it's disrespectful and inappropriate to express your doubts like this.
Well as you can see, there were indeed people with these ideas, and once again, this was not the only reason. You remember the incident with kordak, ther was said that h should have resigned first, and then start the discussion
That is exactly what we did.
" You remember the incident with kordak, ther was said that h should have resigned first, and then start the discussion"
I never said that, I said he should have come to me first, same goes for you all of you.
you want to be sure that it is no 15 minute fame as odan called it?
as of april 10th this account will get inactive to. you could check our ip to be active at erepublik. hell for what i care you check our ip to active anywhere on the internet, as that it will be. i was thinking about making a effort to provide actual proof of identity but i do not see why to do so - as there are people already showing me why not to do so.
legendardisch, as i know you live very close to me, contact me, we might be able to set up some meeting of some sort.
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I understand why you did it, I share your thoughts but I wont resign of this.
I serve my country, my soldiers, I do not serve Fhaemita nor Garmr.
Erm, I was under the impression that the issue was going to be discussed. To be honest, I kind of wanted to talk with Fhaemita beforehand, you know? 😒 According to Fhaemita, nobody came to talk with him about it which I was not aware of.
I definitely think that the comment was in poor taste considering the matter at hand, but I would have wanted to see what Fhaemita meant by the comment and to allow him the opportunity to explain before making a decision.
Someone with common sense but sadly it seems you resigned 😛
My interpretation was indeed the theatre version. I didn't see big harm in the statement on its own, but it also is not really a form of offering condolences. It merely is a 3 word summary of the news itself.
But if you start thinking of it, it sounds more like And then there were three... from the Ten Little Indians rhyme.
Looking up the reason for the name of the album Exit...Stage Left reveals that it was used by Snagglepuss when he fled.
In short, it isn't really such an appropriate statement. And I hope Fhaemita understands this now. The urban dictionary definition, for all I care, is complete nonsense. The urban dictionary gives meanings which occur if you start thinking about something too much. And I'm sure Fhaemita didn't think it that far through.
Although the action in itself was, at that moment, not considered as being disrespectful by me (I didn't bother to follow the link of Garmr though) the response from both to this article is very sad indeed and fits the typical reactions they have on several occasions. The one way more then the other though.
The reason for your cabinet members not consulting you Fhaemita sadly does not come as a surprise. And although it takes two sides to discuss matters (I'm not the easiest going person myself) I'm heavily under the impression a good conversation on a matter you see differently is hardly possible nor am I certain of getting a real answer. Perhaps these players already figured that it would not make a difference in the end and therefore didn't bother anymore...