[AFA] Should work taxes be lower?
Toto Schillaci
Many countries around the world with similar resource bonuses thrive with much lighter tax rates than the US imposes on its citizens. To cite one example, we have 5+5+5 bonuses while our supposed "arch-nemesis" Serbia also has 5+5+5 bonuses. The difference being that they have a 5% Work Tax implemented in their economy while the US has a work tax bigger than twice, or to be precise 12%.
This may not sound like a lot to someone from the Government, but it sure does add up over the course of time, and for a new player it can definitely make a difference as to whether or not they decide to stay and grow the eUSA community. Just by working in only one company, an American has to pay almost $4 for work tax, which is about 8-10% of an average salary.
The individuals who make these decisions claim that we need to have a huge reserve for a rainy day. But the truth is that there is nearly $10 million in the eUS treasury. This is a huge number, and rather than continue to stockpile a massive amount of money, the smart and decent thing to do would be to give some financial relief to eUS citizens by lowering taxes. Serbia has 20% of what the US has (less than 2M CC), and they never seem to run out of reserves. We have five times that, yet we are told it is still not enough.
We have one of the highest Work Tax rates in the world, secured regions with bonuses without any sign of possible big wars in the near future and a bank that is so full it makes the bolts of its virtual safe pop out. Taxes can always be raised in the event of a major war when bigger funds are urgently needed. In the meantime, higher taxes are only used to funnel money to a handful of military units that are highly and inappropriately favored, even in times of relative peace.
Comparasion of US resources and work taxes with another major countries
With your help, we can have influence on Congress decisions, and make serious progress to lower the oppressive Work Tax rate in our country. That’s why I would encourage everyone to join the American Freedom Alliance at the link on the bottom of this text and help us in our fight for lower taxes:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/party/american-freedom-alliance--3085/1
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[AFA] Should work taxes be lower?
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/2489107/1/20
Vote!!!
Attempting to break into the top 5 is a violation of the ceasefire we agreed. You guys have held up your end quite admirably prior to now. I'm not DHS at present but I think they'd happily jump at an excuse to start seizing the AFA every month again. I'd rethink this course if I were you.
How did you conclude that we were attempting to break into the top 5? We have right to have our own policy without threatening the top 5. Having an influence on Congress is not equal to attempting to break into top 5.
Although our agreement with DHS should be certainly discussed once again.
With your help, we can have influence on Congress decisions, and make serious progress to lower the oppressive Work Tax rate in our country. That’s why I would encourage everyone to join the American Freedom Alliance at the link on the bottom of this text and help us in our fight for lower taxes:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/party/american-freedom-alliance--3085/1
Forgive me if I misunderstood but it would seem the intent is to break into the top 5 in order to secure Congress seats to attempt to lower taxes.
I forgive you.
The Black Sheep Party is a party with the same view on taxes. Have you guys talked to them?
No we haven't, but thanks for the info 🙂
Why don't you go back to Servia?
We wait to see you going back to Turkey first 🙂
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IRL, I live in the US. How about you?
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Not in Gurkey for sure 🙂
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Kemal, you have your terrorist cell in USA?!
I have a sex cell. You can ask your mother about it.
Your women wear beards and black suit, like ninjas ... but you're gay terrorists...
I don't recall your mother having beard, she was very smooth.
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Not even worth an actual argument-based response. Nice to see you guys hopping on the bandwagon of people who don't know what the meaning of the word "facts" is.
Well, we used arguments, you used demagogy. Seems like it's the best you can.
FIST
There are a lot of benefits for the US citizens mainly because of the high work tax. Too bad you guys can't see them.
Name one of that benefits that couldn't be had without so high taxes? Please, open our eyes 🙂
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USAF funding
DoDSEP
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Easy Company hands the USAF it's a$$ weekly, so that is tax revenue wasted. Also MFA pays out more weekly in gold to it's Cadets than the DoDSEP, so again wasted tax revenue. Easy Company is the best MU in America and we do it on our own money, the USAF is a perennial also ran and uses tax revenue to accomplish even that....
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No, they should not be lowered.
1) The work tax was raised from 8% to 12% to REPLENISH the agreed upon reserve of the CBO by the majority of Congress.
2) Sure, your chart does show USA as full bonuses with highest tax, but it does not show the active population per country. Population of a country is an important factor in considering the % of taxes per country. If you look at Serbia's active population (+7,000), Argentina's active population (+6,000), Turkey's active population (+3,500) and Hungary's active population (+3,500) versus USA's active population (+3,400) you will see that those countries with more population, some double USA's population, do not have to have a high tax rate because they get more clicks from its citizens than USA's population does from its citizens.
tl;dr? Larger country's incoming taxes per day is greater than a smaller country's incoming taxes per day; UNLESS a smaller country (USA) raises its taxes to a higher percentage to try and receive the amount of taxes a larger country receives per day.
Are you enjoying those FULL BONUSES and phenomenal alliance partners from Pacifica? Yes? Then STFU.
3) If AFA comes close to breaking the Top 5 party mark be ready for the swift hand of American justice to smite thee.
4) Who wrote this article for you to troll the rest of USA? :3
5) Frank and beans.
6) What Iamnameless said 'meh'.
I'd say there could be a link between no active population and high work tax.
Two components to income from Work Tax
1) WAM Tax - this is based on what country you live in
2) Taxing workers is based on what country you work in - with the advent of the housing industry the number of foreign workers in eUS has increased tremendously also the number of US citizens working in US has increased & with overtime pay the number of workers is further multiplied. Lowering the tax rate will increase the willingness of foreigners to work in the eUS for given pay rate.
"tl;dr? Larger country's incoming taxes per day is greater than a smaller country's incoming taxes per day; UNLESS a smaller country (USA) raises its taxes to a higher percentage to try and receive the amount of taxes a larger country receives per day."
Per country page (Day 261😎
USA revenue = 112,000
Serbia = 166,000
Argentina = 2,800 (were around 35,000 before loss of regions)
Turkey = 61,000
Hungary = 64,000
So trying to match Serbia's income is the goal? Because we're clearly blowing past all the other countries you mentioned. And how does the extra cash negate Serbia's population advantage?
"Are you enjoying those FULL BONUSES ..."
Please explain how a 6% work tax (half) equates to loss of bonuses. Assume tax revenue goes to 50% (even though VAT generates some income). Does $56,000 per day = loss of bonuses?
Romania has a similar active population (3,400) , has a 5% work tax, hauls in $60,000 per day, has a great alliance, 100/60/60 bonuses & does just fine.
Only two countries out-earn eUSA: Poland & Serbia.
Money does not equal security.
lower income taxes pls
propose we PTO AFA again just for trying to beat a dead horse
You know as much as I am not fond of AFA, the fact is they bring up a legit discussion about the work tax.
But threatening to seize the party because as an active Party they are voicing an opinion of a government policy that they disagree with, that is just wrong.
It's not wrong.
They're not just creating discussion, they're recruiting members and calling them to join for their cause, which would lead them to potentially be in the top 5 parties, gain access to congress members which is breaching the 'ceasefire' of both sides.
Good god they are 64 members short of breaking into the top 5. Do you honestly believe they could possibly pick up that many members to even breach that.
The bottom line is those that hold the power of the country enjoy their tax, it lets them keep all their pretty little things.
They are against a lower tax. But threatening an opposite view point is wrong. Like it or not AFA members are also citizens of the eUS.
When the government threatens to stamp out anypolitcal opposition via a threat of taking over that party is wrong.
The Dept. of Homeland Security is not meant to be used like an eGestopo.
The point isn't if they could, it's them trying.(Which is the breach mentioned)
They're not just an opposition, their party leader would rather see the US wiped than to fight Serbia, if one attacked. He also lied about following NCS priorities, and refuses to fight for our allies if they're Croatia, Albania, or Bosnia & Herzegovina.
Hell, take a look at the party leaders BH history:
battle-watcher.com/medals/citizen/2624197 , some of these were taken while proclaiming they're loyal US citizens.
I'm not even going into the history of the AFA, and their past attempts to PTO the government, and their association with RGR in the past.
""I f*** you in your turkish disintegrated mouths, you stinky tallowy piece of s**t. I hope you'll die in worst torments, while we'll (Serbs) gonna piss on your grave.""
-Dr. Devil, two months ago on the forums.
Tax debate aside, this type of behavior as well as their opinions doesn't make them an opposition. When you rather see your country wiped for months than to fight a US nemesis, you're more than just an opposition.
Like I said I am not a fan of AFA. I am very aware of their history as well as their past connections with ajay. I never hesitated to help with ATO efforts against them. I do not need a history lesson.
But it is no surprise that a good number of people in power hate the thought of a discussion of lower taxes let alone implementing them.
And they will do anything to hold onto that. To me this crosses a dangerous line.
But what the hell at least the debate will be entertaining, something that is sorely needed in what has become an extremely dull boring game.
I support 100% of what you had said. Comments like yours give me hope that there still are objective players in this country who can differentiate real danger for the country from stamping out political opposition by using Gestapo methods. It's not the first time that leading structures in eUS are behaving as fascists.
The short version... Work tax is at 12% to make up for the period where the most short sighted of you had it lowered to 8% instead if leaving it where it needed to be to cope with peaks and troughs in expenditure of 10%. Stop screwing with the tax system in a veiled attempt to aid your home eCountry of Serbia. They are the only ones who benefit when eUSA does not have the funds to repel them in future.
I want lower taxes. Our reserves are in good shape now. Does this mean I want to aid eSerbia in my home countries demise?
There's no future in the USA for the working man, only if being a member of the USAF and enjoying the stupid amount of weapons paid by tax payers. Of course it's not the fault of the USA politicians (the same for years their hands in the honey pot) but the game system and WAM making all this possible. And of course we who stay here and pay all this are to blame as well.
It would be good for small players like me.
This high tax completely prevents small players from self producing anything.
I would support a higher wok tax for Serbians living in eUSA.
Work taxes are very high
MAX TAXES
you are always welcome to send all your money and gold towards the countries treasury if you desperately want to do so
I fully agree with this article
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If you want to help get taxes lower vote The Black Sheep Party on the 25th for congress!