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tommot for PP \o/

About the elections: Once again we see that the 2 most active parties are HOPE and PANDA. GG guys!


about the debate of the month:

so refreshing to see eBelgium still fighting over the same stupid things and people like NLSP and consorts still using backhand tricks and loopholes in an imaginary law system to get his great right.
I most don't agree with TC. Everyone here knows that when he says "red", I'll say "blue" just for the sake of disagreeing with him, but I have to admit that he is one of the few non-morons this country has. And seeing at the current people in charge (especially the CP), I'd say you're in dire need of some people who have more than 2 brain cells.

But hey, do continue. it has always been eBelgium's speciality to push away experienced, intelligent people with internal quarrels to then find out they either side with the so called "PTO'ers" or move to another nation. Judging by the latest election results: It's not like you need voters or people who can hold the reigns a bit... right... right guys?

Don't change eBelgium.... don't change..... If PTO'ers want, they don't need to take over eBelgium. They just need to wait till you've eliminated each other first. Coz that's what this eNation of idiots is known for.

it's false: you know that at least 15 of those votes come from accounts that log in only on election day.
anyway eBelgian current government is quite funny:
they give to you a right after a long debate, you ask for that right to be respected, they deny it to you, you complain because you feel to be mistreated, they remove the right because you're arrogant.

Be that as it may; accounts that log in on election day is not something new and certainly not something exclusive to HOPE/PANDA. ThomasRed used to do that very same thing on a much bigger scale.

But then again, as long as admins haven't found any multi's, we can only assume that they are genuine accounts, in which case it's their full right to come online only election day


You're right about the eBE government tho. They're self-centred and self-destructive. They just don't know it yet.

I do agree with shadowukcs about the fact we can't blame idle accounts. Still it may be not that good in some cases and I don't deny PTO threat. Blabla.
Agreed also with the last statement 😁'.

"Be that as it may; accounts that log in on election day is not something new and certainly not something exclusive to HOPE/PANDA. ThomasRed used to do that very same thing on a much bigger scale."

Who are you, and what have you done with shadowukcs? I remember the old shadowukcs complaining long and loud about BfB and their "sheep voters" - something about their not being democratic or representative of the people. It is suddenly okay for HOPE and PANDA now? Why is that?

Oh, don't get me wrong MQ. I've always been against and I'm still against it. I just accept it as something all sides do now. Personally I'd like to see it gone, but I know that's a utopia. Besides, I think if sheep voters on both sides where eliminated, I doubt that that would be a good thing for the "forum folk" as there are imo as much forum-sheep voters as non-forum sheep voters, which would make the balance closer to 50/50

And like I said, They are hardly the major factor of "your" problem. It's the arrogance and stubbornness and unwillingness to find solutions that will lead to the self-destruction of the eBE "elite". You're busy killing yourself.

You plan for occupation has proven to be a complete failure. Every day more and more people start to find themselves in the idea's of HOPE/PANDA. New citizens as well as old citizens who are beginning to see that this plan leads to economical suicide, people who are beginning to see that we spend 160 000 BEF/month but only gain 1800 BEF trough taxes (such as JdIF), people who are being pushed away trough loopholes when you should be using their expertise (take TC here)...

All you do with things like this, is fasten your own diminish. Your own arrogance and unwillingness to find a solution, combined with the utter prodigality of NLSP is harming you more than so called PTO'ers ever will. Eventually you'll see this. I hope you will make a mental note then where you hear my voice in head say "told you so".

Please, I did know such a thing for more than few eeks (or month) 😁.
But we have enough treasory to jeep it going low. Nevertheless, last month cost 37% of our treasury which ... means than we can't run as much as we could on our treasury.

Tbh if Plato doesn't start a new tournament soon when we can get high eBE prices like we did during my term (😁); treasury won't be enough and we'll need to go on inexistant taxes. Or put a capitalist system to let people handle themselves ... By themselves.

Moreover we have to keep a safety stock for retrieving regions because even if ePL agrees; it's not that easy.

That was for the financial part. So yes we can (could?) run on the treasury as we get from time to time extra incomes from citizens or plato (backward or tournaments). Sadly we spent (waste?) a lot of it lately, around 37% if I'm not mistaken [partialy due to gold devaluation].

For the panda/hope/pto thing; indeed such measures tend to strenghten their position as we've seen with the HOPE's take over (by Tecuvo or/and Res Belgica I don't remember).

Last but not least the forum needs an all reworking. Especially about the form and the laws (so a whole reworking). While I know the form won't change as it's boring to do so; I believe lots of investigations should be done about laws.

For gov members who read my previous comment: don't consider it as hostile, those are just facts. Or at least my own perception/believing.

😁 200% agreed. Right now we don't know when or IF plato is going to do another tournament. So waiting for that is speculation, which in this case is extremely dumb.

Personally I'd love some sort of capitalist system where there are 0 government expenses and everything (BNA, BTA, BYS,...) is either abolished or privatized, unfortunately I don't think a CP manifesto that says "this month we, the government, are going to do absolutely nothing at all!" has the potential of getting lots of votes.

This is unfortunately the what is waiting us when you have egocentric presidents such as NLSP who's sole care is to spend all the money during his term so that the presidents who come after him only have breadcrumbs left.

And you are correct about the forum. It should be completely removed and restarted from 0. With clear guidelines (a forum should imo be a neutral place where all citizens can freely speak, not a place where some groups are favoured over others and admins roam the place thinking they are God. The law book should be completely reformed in such a manner that IG rules and features will always dominate-made up-forum-rules.

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HOPE is past time, long live Liberation Front.

HOPE is PTOed. So much for the legacy of AVegan...

You forgot to write that P.A.N.D.A is PTOed.

? From ? ChristianJ may be an eBE ptoer but he is a well known PANDA's PP... So the party has not been PTOed; I believe 😁'.

Still I agree i would like to see someone else at the top of this party but we cannot deny CJ's victory in this party.

Exactly. He created the party. how can he PTO what he created? This is a typical example of forum-folk arrogance.

G.W.Junior was the founder of PANDA.
Christian showed up much later.

I don't think GW disagree on that vote.

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thx good bcp have a new leader