The conflict between EDEN and eFinland
Petsku
Before talking about the issue itself, let me try to describe eFinland for you. Finland is one of the founding members of EDEN. From the current members, only Croatia, Norway and Romania share the status. I’m talking for everyone when saying that Finland is one of the core members of EDEN. The heart of EDEN. They’ve always been the role model for other countries. They follow battle priorities set by HQ, pay fees on time and participate actively in the daily life of the alliance.
“(Finland is) a monument of our Brotherhood for all those who play the game and believe in true values" -alpho
zRTx – The Saviour or a Polish PTOer?
There are a lot of new players in eFinland. They have, maybe rightfully, demanded me to give more arguements against zRTx, who was a candidate in the last presidential elections of Finland. Let’s start by listing some facts about zRTx.
After (and before?) being kicked out of the Finnish Military HQ, zRTx fought in the Polish army for a long, long time. Not only did he repeatedly fight against EDEN, he fought against Finland too. Many times. It wasn’t just a short visit in the past either. He basically fought the whole 2011 for Poland/ONE and continued to do so in 2012 too. Even at the time of publishing this article, zRTx lives in Poland and is fighting in a military unit of his own. This MU is located in Poland and can therefore complete the daily order only on Polish MPP fights or RWs. I didn’t spot him on the battlefield today but I’m sure he fought against EDEN. Again.
Besides just fighting for ONE, he also joined ONE HQ just 3 months ago, at the end of 2011. His job was to coordinate the armies of ONE. If you don’t trust my word, take a look. He has also leaked information from EDEN channels to ONE, which is totally unacceptable. This happened not so long ago.
The way I saw the future
His friends aren’t exactly clean either. Let me present some direct quotes from a guy who has a strong background in the party which nominated and supported zRTx in the elections. I’m sure zRTx was more or less co-operating on this. The text was already written in English so no translations were made by me. I’ve deleted the parts that would reveal his/her identity. It’s up to him/her to step up and take responsibility if (s)he wants to. Read and “enjoy”!
“The Finnish eRepublik community cannot be changed without PTO.”
“There's lots of people who really don't understand why we are in EDEN. Many think Finland is really powerful nowadays and we should attack Russia ASAP. “
“There are some Finnish supporting ONE and we also have one major ONE leader but they are forced to move outside of Finland because of the stupid rules.”
“With the help of Serbian PTO, we can try to get the EDEN-fuckers out of Finland. There are at least some people who will support Serbian takeover. I really hope you don't want you to think all the finns are your enemies. I know some parties in Finland will vote and support serbia and PTO in the game. But it doesn't even bother if you still don't want to take me or any Finnish people as friends. I just want the old farts to go away from here. Just take over Finland and we will see what happens.”
“IF YOU WANT, I can help you how to organize PTO and try to select the parties to go with. The worst party in Finland is LEP, who control the forum and are really EDEN-fanatics. Most ONE/Serbian-positive party is Anonyymit Herrasmiehet.”
“One other reason is that Anonyymit Herrasmiehet cannot be blamed for PTO but LEP should be to make the party bad.”
An evil schemer
I don’t know about you, but after listing some of his doings, I don’t see him as a qualified president for Finland. Take a look and decide:
-Got kicked out of Finnish military HQ
-Fought and tanked millions and millions of damage for ONE against EDEN and Finland for a year
-Been in ONE HQ
-Spied on EDEN channels and leaked logs to ONE
-Conspired against Finland and EDEN with his “friends”
-Got banned for his multies on an election day
-Threatened Finland with a Polish conquest
-Was selling property of Finland and EDEN on 5th February. Property he would gain access to when being elected.
What happened in Finland
Knowing the facts about zRTx and knowing that he was a candidate of the 4chan party (AH), which isn’t really known of their rational thinking, I decided to start preparing myself for some aTO action. I want to emphasize that I was only preparing for it as I wasn’t sure whether I’d have to interfere or not.
'Nuff said
On 5th February the results looked fairly good until I heard that the people behind zRTx were preparing some 40-60 Serbs/Poles to vote in the morning. I also heard things about using a lot of multies to make sure zRTx would win. In addition to this, I received information that he was already selling the property he would gain access to when being elected. Property of EDEN. I have interesting logs about this but, in order to protect my source, I decided not to paste it here.
At this point I decided to act and bring some proEDEN voters to Finland. Some were here also to get RM factories for a cheaper price. Orders for everyone were to hold votes for the morning and see if they have to vote or not. Citizenships had to be given beforehand because getting them in the morning could’ve been tricky.
The outcome
Kammo22 won the elections with 39 votes. I gave out 18 citizenships and not all of them even voted. I didn’t affect the outcome of the elections. I may even have prevented them of bringing in the Serbs/Poles since they saw that we were ready to protect Finland against PTO. Yet the fuss in Finland was, and still is, huge.. “Bad EDEN! Bad Petsku! Don’t interfere in our internal politics!” Personally I would’ve preferred to skip this whole thing and avoid spending my precious time for nothing. But what’s done is done. I did it for the greater good. If the babies of eFinland now see me as the devil, then so be it. Before all of this happened, they didn’t know that I even existed and a lot of the older Finns thought that I had quitted. At least I made the politics interesting for you again!
Finnish army trying to control the riots
I brought the whole matter up for the presidents of EDEN on a summit that was held on 8th February. I tried to explain the different views of both sides and I had even asked the Finnish congress to write a message to EDEN. I also provided them with some evidence I had gathered. I will now show some opinions of them:
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I had prepared an awesome PowerPoint presentation for the summit
Everyone else agreed with these comments and felt that I had done the right thing. HQ had shown their support for my actions earlier. Presidents and HQ agreed that EDEN shouldn’t interfere with internal politics of any member country. Not unless the situation is extreme.
My greetings to the eFinnish society
If you’re waiting for apologies and are hoping to see me begging for your forgiveness.. please don’t. If someone would turn back time, I’d do the same thing again. I got the support from other EDEN countries and the whole EDEN HQ. That’s what matters to me.
Let this be the hour when we draw swords together. Fell deeds awake. Now for wrath, now for ruin, and the red dawn!
How my actions will be interpreted by you, after reading this article, will define whether I want to help eFinland in the future or not. If you still manage to ignore all the facts against zRTx and keep judging my actions.. I don’t know. I guess eFinland isn’t what it used to be. There’s no way I could be a part of a society where you lapidate those who try to help you and pet those who want to harm you.
With love
Petsku
aka Baby Finn
Comments
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Yup.
PHOENIX PROPAGANDA
(Potato!)
Why the hell would anybody in its right mental capacity vote for that RTx guy?
unless he has an army of clones voting for him...
Thumbs up!
support for Baby Finn o/
Wallachian, the AH(4chan)-party could easily be described as "an army of clones".
Ihan hyvä oli kuulla tämäkin puoli tarinasta.
"He has also leaked information from EDEN channels to ONE, which is totally unacceptable. This happened not so long ago."
Sure. I probably would leaked that info if I had anything. Only bad thing is that I joined Polish military BEFORE NWO (nowadays ONE) was even created. so fail.
"-Got kicked out of Finnish military HQ"
Nah. I just didn't get for new term because Finnish military HQ is being chosen by politics and you and other LEP guys didn't like me. So I joined Polish army when Loland was in EDEN. 😉 ONE was establish later.
"-Spied on EDEN channels and leaked logs to ONE"
I haven't been in any EDEN channels since start of NWO(ONE).
"he was already selling the property he would gain access to when being elected."
nope I was trolling EDEN about selling one lovely org but as you know I said that those rumours was wrong. sad that you don't trust anybody any more.
But overall, I like how you are making yourself as a martyr. and I laugh to it.
PS. All top-class-EDEN-nubs: don't intervene if you don't know anything about the situation.
Those quotes are from Jorma Kaaleppi, right? He's an a-hole so there isn't any reason to hide his identity and everyone knows what he is planning to do anyway...
But I can assure you, that those things he is planning are only his personal idiotic plans, which most of Anonyymit Herrasmiehet doesn't want to be a part of. Atleast I don't want to be...
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Hail Finland!
Hail EDEN!
Fail scumbag PTOers!
zRTx but what about fighting against Finland? : s Y u no say anything about that?
And it's also such a shame that douches like Jorma are ruining the reputation of the members of Anonyymit Herrasmiehet who don't want to just spurde spärde around.
@alpho: as I stated in presidentelection speak thingie:
"I only fought against LEP's tyranny" : )
and we all can pretend that I have never done anything for funland.
Hail Finland!
Hail EDEN!
Fail scumbag PTOers!
zRTx: There's actually a really thin line of trolling and actually doing something. We're talking about a candidate representing the 4channer party here.. For them, trolling is the way of life.
Finland is the heart of EDEN! o7
Petsku i miss your butt😃 o/
Ebin. Serbian PTO incoming.
Vote for the Sibelius Memorial! My favorite! 🙂
+ Good luck for solving your internal political problem!
Petsku: I could tell you nice stories about our channer party. but they are too awesome so I pass.
btw. I hope that galebs will have good time with serbs.
Respect!
o7
Petsku, it is good you showed the facts. Whenever you need hellp, just call!
Crybaby much? So you fough/fight against Finland just to teach LEP a lesson? That's just bad Finnish-ing.
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My supporte to eFinland and Baby Finn aka Petsku in their fight against ONE's PTOers. eFinland is fundamental stone of EDEN. Always was and always will be. So you PTOers keep pushing in your attempt but real eFinns and all true friends of eFinland will never allow your success.
My love to all real eFinns.
Nenya
aMC of EDEN, commander of eCro Baby Army Vatreni Gusteri, captain of EMC-CRO
aww yeah. alpho is calling me crybaby so I must be famous!
and the facts are always in the favour for that one who presents them.
Dude, you fought against Finland.
Sorry you can't be CP cos of that.
kthxbai
damn this zRTx guy sounds to be just like Pizza The Hut !!!!!!
but be afraid not, Pizza the hut has 3 years of experience, and he even got the Serbian bank encouraging him for a PTO and supplying him with what he needs. there are all the evidents
It's plain simple dude. As I fight day by day against Poland and ONE, you fight against Finland and EDEN. Dunno how can someone portrait these facts otherwise. Your finger tripped and you fought by accident a whole year against Finland&EDEN?
Oh and tommy reminded me today about the "crybaby" words so since it's used by ONE supporters I said what the heck, you'll probably understand it's meaning.
alpho: why I should fight for a country where I got kicked out due internal politics?
and why I'm even defending myself against group of guys who don't even know the whole story.
so I'm heading back to tank against TEDEN ->
Finland is the heart of EDEN! o7
cofe
How ignorant dummies can people be.. Wait zRTx! I'm coming with ya!
Support from eAmerica. o7
Stay vigilant, eFinnbros.
Only problem I see here is that two wrongs do not make a right.
The distinction that has to be made and I don't see it here in what capacity did you take it upon yourself to interfere, if as a representative of Finish government, then there is no problem, if though you were not part of Finish government but instead acted as part of EDEN HQ and thus represented more EDEN interests, then the first comment applies.
I think many people after playing this game for a while fall into the trap of thinking that they know more then the rest and are more suited/qualified to make judgements on topics they perceive as important. Thus they start trying to decide what is good and what not for a country/alliance and in general.
So I hope this really was not a power struggle because the main losers from it are the Finish people. By the way this is only a personal comment and I have no intentions to meddle in internal Finish matters, they're for Fins to decide, whichever way they do, rational or not, it can not be wrong.
özet geç la piçç
eDarkAngel:
Elections were close. maybe IF erius would have step down from candicy before elections I would have won. (He got something like 80 votes but changed CS before election ending so doesn't show in results page.) what also means that kammo really didn't receive over 50% of votes.
also congress voted for impeach and over 50% said yes.
we can all make our own conclusions with that.
but it's good to see that at least Bulgaria is respecting Finnish sovereignty. o/
For me as a efinnish congressman the problem is not the interfering in politics but the power one man holds.
Petsku did everything in his own accord, he did not inform anyone in finnish congress, he didn't inform most of the finnish government. Only one's that knew about the plan were sitting president and ones closest him. I'm not taking any part in the discussion whether it was right or wrong.
As I said, the problem for me is the power one man can hold in EDEN headquarters or whatever is beyond any reason. One man can mobilize people to vote in any country without informing it's decision-making body at all. If this is allowed to continue in EDEN, the whole system piss' on its own feet.
Petsku's plan raised a lot of disbelief and suspicions against EDEN in finnish communit by interfering in local elections, especially in newer players but also in older. I as a older player see that EDEN is the best choice for Finland, at least for now, but if these unexpected moves occur in future as well, I may not be able to say the same.
Letting someone decide how to use EDEN soldiers by oneself is not the way how alliances work. I demand that EDEN HQ starts to think with their brains (you most likely have them) and let the people of the land decide for ones country, not EDEN.
If you want to carry through plans like this, get the approval of the ones that know what their country wants: congress. Or at least inform them in advance, not two or three days later.
Last but certainly not least:
EDEN is a tool for co-operation, not dictatorship. Keep it like that.
(If you find this text messy and not understandable at all, I'm sorry. My brains got stuck on a sleepswitch)
-Arctica
2 times Minister of Internal Affairs of eFinland
Congressman of eFinland
^What he said.
I see EDEN doesn't care for finland but only small EDEN-believer elite.
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Lavanche promised to get punishment for Petsku and kicked him from EDEN HQ. Why he promised so? Lie or was he known that Petsku's talk was too soft and EDEN HQ was fooled badly by Petsku?
Ei vittu hessu, sua on taas kusetettu.
What are we talking here?
zRTx is a cheater! He was banned for multiacont and multivotes on election day!
Brothers from eFinland, please remember ... eFinland is heart of EDEN, always was and always will be!
You have our full support o7
vasspana
President of eGreece
Finland is EDEN!! They are true allies never said no, when they were asked to help. HAIL FINLAND!
don't mess with Baby Finn!
support Petsku 😉
Petsku rocks.
o7 Finland
voted, there's still Finns who's not supporting PTO.
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