Breaking the myths about Croatia #1 - Za dom spremni! (For home ready!)
Vjekoslav1701
This article is a first in a series of articles that will concentrate on breaking the myths about Croatia and it's culture.
Now, many might argue that this is about RL, but this culture is also present in eRep. You can see "Za dom spremni!" written here many times, so please trolls, before trying to trash this please read it and you'll find nothing offensive or provocative.
The only RL elements will be historical facts which are necessary. This is meant to teach all our enemies and allies a bit about ourselves and our cultural idiosyncrasies and habits.
First, history corner:
In the year 1566, Nikola Šubić Zrinski is defending the fortress of Siget with his 2500 troops against 100 000 Ottomans. After longterm battles and lengthy siege instead of surrendering, the remaining 200 men decide to make a final charge against the enemy army. Only a few soldiers survived and killed over 30 000 Ottomans. Before the final charge Zrinski shoute
😛"Za dom sad u boj" (For home now to battle) From this shout you get two modern ones - "Za dom spremni!"(For home ready) i "U boj, u boj, za narod svoj!"(To battle, to battle, for your people.)
About 300 years later Ban Josip Jelačić uses a similar shout before going to battle. He shouts: "Za dom!"(For home!) and the troops reply: "Spremni umrijeti!"(Ready to die!)
The myth:
Now, the myth of it being a nazi salute comes from WW II Ustasha regime in Croatia. They used the salute: "Za poglavnika i dom spremni!"(For home and our leader ready!) and it was accompanied with the standard Nazi hand raise.
Since then it wasn't used until our homeland war. From then it's a standard shout used in patriotic songs, sports fans cheers (specially during the national team games) and even in everyday life when two patriots meet.
Now please vote and shout so that this myth becomes busted in the heads of as many eRep players possible.
Addon by Mivanci:
In 90` RL Croatian Army, some units (like mine 111.war brigade from Rijeka) used word "spreman"(ready) When soldier was called, he replayed "ready!"...This was shorten from "for home ready!", as association to Croatian war history...
Also, some people, interpreted this, as Nazi legacy, and that was not true.... this words, are far older and noble...
NEXT MYTH: Grb: Šahovnica - Croatian coat of arms: Checkerboard.
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vote ko kuca
vote
vote,
a sad odbrojavanje do brisanja članka, kompleksi su zajebana stvar...
vote,
a sad odbrojavanje do brisanja članka, kompleksi su zajebana stvar...
x2
Ma znam, i evo još jedan FP, al za ovak neke ga ponosno dobivam.
ne mozes ti nekome dokazat nesto ako je cijeli zivot strasen ustaskim vampirima koji bacaju bombe 100 metara
nisu ustaski vampiri nego su ih zvali Pijani ustase, eto ti jos jedan mit
hehehe dobra oktam 🙂
nadrogirane i pijane turbo ustase bacaju po 150m daleko bombe xD
v+s+shout
e pijani ustaša je jebena bomba, mogli su je ispucati i preko 100 metara, i baš me zanima da li ces reci da je sahovnica ujedno pogrdan naziv za naš grb !!!
v
uskoro očekuj jos jedna orden casti
ne mozes ti nekome dokazat nesto ako je cijeli zivot strasen ustaskim vampirima koji bacaju bombe 100 metara X2 v+s i shout
Vote
Ne nego mit o podrijetlu šahovnice i znakovlju crvenih i bijelih polja.
v & s
@Marko Antolovic ispravka Pijani ustasa nije bomba nego ispaljivac bombi
@Vjekoslav1701 trebo bi stvarno nesto napisat o pijanom ustasi to je jedan od mitova
a trenkovi panduri?
@xXx4R3SxXx Pa ovo je tek prvi u nizu članaka, ima prostora za sve.
v+s
vot and subscribe from me
I will expect your next myth
v
http://tinyurl.com/3wm7ul2
v+s
mythbusters XD
Inspiriran sam tom serijom.
Also ne of oldest Croatian partys (RL) HSP which has been founded in 1861 used expresion "Za dom spremni"
one*
P.S. sry abut my bad english.
Vote kolega
da, a te bombe padaju nazad i ubijaju djecu ... u to stilu je bilo nešto
i nadam se da ćeš objasnit, jednu od prvih šahovnica onu s prvim bijelim poljem .. kakva je na crkvi sv. Marka u Zagrebu.
@general00lee Prv bijelo polje je na šahovnici u doba rata, crveno u doba mira🙂
Pa da, simbolika prvog polja i tako, bez brige...čekaj sljedeću epizodu.
😉
@General00Lee - šahovnice s prvim bijelim poljem su izrađivane kada hrvatska nije bila pod okupacijom neke zemlje, a s crvenim obrnuto
Da, prvo polje je značilo slobodnu Hrvatsku, a crveno pod okupacijom.
🙂 jedva čekam sljedeće novine
fala ekipa
vote ko kuća, samo napomeni da japanci isto koriste taj poklik, kao i što stalno remake-aju našu operu Šubić-Zrinski
v & s
kakvo brisanje , pa ja u RL-u pozdravljam "za dom" samo zato šta je to nekima čudno ćuti. ne postoji zakonska zabrana korištenja "za dom spremni" , ma koliko se neki trudili taj pozdrav kriminalizirati...
One more add on to your article....
In 90` RL Croatian Army, some units (like mine 111.war brigade from Rijeka) used word "spreman" (ready) When soldier was called, he replayed "ready!"...This was shorten from "for home ready!", as association to Croatian war history...
Also, some people, was interpreted this, as nazi legacy, and that was not true.... this words, are far more old and noble...
prvi pravi zasluzeni sub i vote! ide i shout!
zivio majstore!
v i s
Hvala ljudi.
Stay tuned for more.
Hail CROATIA
V+S+S+spreman
v+s
cekam sljedeci 😉
v+s
Ovaj clanak vredja Litvanske nacionalne interese
Ha? Odkud si baš pogodil Ltvanske, ko da znaš imam RL povezanost s njima (ne podrijetlo, al neke druge stvari)
Ma, sve mi to ok, tj, pucketa mi, nego... Kako je vasih 5000 pobilo tolike Turke, a oni se posle prosetali do Beca?
I svastika je indijski simbol mira pa sad više niko ne sme da je koristi. Pogodite zbog čega?
Dobio si i sub. Baš me interesuje ovo tvoje "pisanije".
@vegi.vegi Napiši bitka kod Sigeta i vidjet ćeš. Mi smo taj prodor zaustavili i čak im je Sulejman umro u toj opsadi pa su se nakon nje vratili i odustali.
http://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitka_kod_Sigeta
I ispravak, bilo je 2500 branitelja a Turci su izgubili više od 30 000 vojnika. Što je i normalno, naši su bili u utvrdi i imali su ispočetka puno naoružanja, topova i svega, a Turci su u valovima napadali utvrdu. Čito je normalno da napadačka vojska ima tolke gubitke prilikom nekoliko tjedana ratovanja, posebno ak ih čekaju fanatični Hrvati.
@HooCaris A pogledaj razliku između nacističke i indijske svastike, nacistička je zabranjena i ne koristi se, dok indijska se još i danas koristi normalno. Isto je s ovim pozdravom, ustaški oblik se ne koristi, dok ovaj, originalni se koristi slobodno i nije zabranjen nijednim svjetskim zakonom.