Macedonia, Kosovo and conspiracies.
MoonlightShadow
It's been a while since my last article. Today I'm going to express my point of view regarding several, let's call them “hot topics,” which lately have been very visible in eRepublik world. I want to insist on the fact that what follows is just a personal opinion, not an official statement. Anyway, by hot we approach the idea of flames, closely related to “flaming” which is a strictly prohibited action in eRepublik. I hope that it's clear why we want to avoid flaming, trolling, insults and things like that among our citizens: it is true that sometimes the passions and feelings get so strong that one might forget that eRepublik is a game, but this is what it is. A game where we want to have fun. Having fun by being insulted or flamed, it's pretty hard.
eRepublik is not a news site, a forum, a blog, or a place which extracts its content from real-life events, debates and happenings. It is virtual and moreover it is called the New World. To illustrate my point, there might be thousands of blogs/forums/etc debating for example the Kosovo region statute, where users troll, flame and insult each others.And this is OK. But we don't need this in the eRepublik game Why? Because those ultra-nationalistic feelings bring real-life hatred into our little universe. And why would 230.000 citizens be flooded with all sorts of “demanding”articles about Kosovo and Macedonia? Yes, the ones asking this have strong feelings, yes they might believe with their every single cell of the body that they are right. But the neutral guy it gets annoyed by all this.
My citizen name refers to a hero, not to a criminal
I`m gonna start with something very easy: avatars, names, articles, etc, which are related to real-life controversial or proven to be war criminal and things like that. That is “what the hell is wrong with my avatar, it's our national symbol, it represents our war hero x?” Yes, what for one might be a national hero, may for the inhabitants of the neighboring country or region be a war criminal that has killed many souls with his own hands. Once again, maybe an annoying reminder, but we are talking about a game here. There's no need to bring real-life faces and symbols connected to wars, crimes, terrorism, etc.
Macedonia
Some citizens demand the introduction of Macedonia as a country of eRepublik and they flame everywhere asking why Macedonia is in Greece. First of all, there is no country recognized with this name. The UN accepted it as a member, but under the provisional reference of The Former Yugoslav Republik of Macedonia (FYROM). This being said, any demands of immediate implementation of the Macedonia country, a name which already exists in the game as an official neighboring region of Greece (just like real-life official statute), is just flaming fuel that must stop. At most it could be demanded the introduction of FYROM, which would follow the standard procedure and analysis (no. of population, the degree of internet penetration, etc) But still, there is no clear situation regarding the name of this country. So why claiming this to a game, to clarify a real-life issue?
Kosovo
This topic burst into existence pretty lately, after the Serbian baby-boom. Countless articles, forum posts and privately submitted tickets demanded aggressively the addition of the Kosovo real-life region to eRepublik country of Serbia. OK, maybe Serbians believe that is their right, that this would be correctly, and we really won't deny anything, because it is not our job. But what is the real-life official statute of Kosovo region? We are talking here about the Republik of Kosovo, a country of its own, recognized as so by 63 countries of the world, where parties exist and elections are held under the UN surveillance, where we have other countries' embassy, President, Prime-Minister, and so on . We don't talk about the never-ending wars in this region, the history, whether that region is inhabited by Serbians or other nations, etc. The only thing eRepublik as a game considers is the official international statute and nothing more. And this statute doesn't recognize Kosovo as being national territory of Serbia, so again, why demanding a web-based game to "solve" this?
Also, there are some conspiracies theories flourishing, about some countries having no incentivized offers, and such. It was clearly stipulated that it is not eRepublik choosing which country receives how many offers, that is a solely advertisers' choice.
Anyway, I really understand deep in my heart that x citizens want to prove that x region belongs to them in real-life even if it is not admitted by international authorities. And that no matter what, it should belong to them in eRepublik, otherwise this game would "suck." I really do, probably I for one would feel the same thing, had I been born and raised there. But what I would also do, I would look through others eyes. And wonder myself how about the thousands of neutral citizens tired of seeing over and over and over again such articles, full of hatred, flame and trolling.
Would an Australian, or Venezuelan, or Chinese care about the local drama in Kosovo? Most likely, no. Would he want to see everyday eRepublik game debating this REAL-LIFE ISSUE? For sure, no. He would like to see hot topics about eRepublik world, not real wars. And moreover, at one point they might get so annoyed that even start to hate all this. Something like “OK, I got this, even supported your first attempts, but as you see, the eRepublik staff is following real-life official recognized statutes, so you can't convince them. So, let's start playing this game and leave this behind.” Probably for them would be hard to move over, it is their real history about so it is not easy. But they need to understand that they are asking a game to solve their “problems.” And that the rest of us are getting tired of seeing this battle between the involved parties.
Comments
What about a new country called Adminlandia? It would have no allies and everybody would attack them. Most of 230.000 players have "warm" feeling about Adminlandia.
It would increase the fun level.
Zoli ..iar aberezi cu Adminladia .
P.S. Astept inca raspuns de la Admini cum e posibil sa iau FF pentru ca am scris tic tac.
If serbia wants kosovo,then invent the country of kosovo ,like you did with North korea and then if serbs want kosovo they should attack it and take it for themselvs.I believe this is the best solution to the kosovo problem.
And your point, strictly on topic, is what, Zoli?
Damn, sometimes I overestimate you. My bad.
"which would follow the standard procedure and analysis (no. of population, the degree of internet penetration, etc)"
What is the degree of internet penetration in North Korea?
If Kosovo becomes Serbian region, then Vojvodina must be region of Croatia!
I came.
Level headed and mature! Good stuff.
Mind you, I would like the option of being able to start a civil war, and budding off a new enation. This could either be a mirror of a desired real world country, or something purely erep - if the gypsies can count as a separate people real world, why shouldn't groups like the Theocrats, Goons and so on, given how long they've been around in erepublic?
If you use UN name for FYROM you should also use UN map for Serbia
voted.Macedonia is Greek.
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actually, there are more people from macedonia logging in than from greece 😛
i preffer to go by their constitutional name that they chose for themselves.
veni-zelos traba re kane kamia douleia . Tipota den afineis na pesei katw. Ante re file se parakalw,kane mas tin xari.
The only thing eRepublik as a game considers is the official international statute and nothing more. Read UN Resoultion 1244. It clearly states Kosovo IS Serbia.
If UN is not official then what is?
Kosovo is Uruguay!! 😛
I'm glad to see such crystal clear point of view as yours MoonlightShadow, especially on the matter of FYROM. Noboby can deny the right for these people to have the eCountry of their own, as long as it's named after the UN accepted name, just like every other country is.
Venizelo...agoraki moy den se xero...alla soy protino taxista na breis kamia gynaika!
Eisai pio anthelinas bre kakomoiri kai apo toys tourkous!
voted !
eMacedonia is eGreek (as in real life!) !!!
Yes to eFYROM
Real Macedonia is here in Greece 😛
Read UN Resoultion 1244. It clearly states Kosovo IS Serbia.
If UN is not official then what is? x2
Macedonia is Greece
Kosovo is Serbia
Macedonia is Macedonia.
Greece is Greece.
Kosovo is Serbia.
voted!
Macedonia is a Provence of Greece in real life. The same should happen in the game.
Voted, very well written
"So, let's start playing this game and leave this behind."
let's start playing this game like mature peoples that we should be.
great article again !
/salute
FAIL at Geopolitics and history.
You guys should really do more research before speaking. Not just Wikipedia or Google. But I'm not gonna argue with that.
Zoli had a good point with the "North Korea issue". We shall wait for a reply.
Prietene, daca ai avea si alte surse in afara de ziare si opinii expirate, ai afla ca, asa cum Basarabia e Pamant Romanesc, indiferent de ce spun niste hartii mai mult sau mai putin oficiale, la fel de bine Kosovo e Serbia; afla ce inseamna skanderberg; nu ma refer la "sportul" ala cu muschi, ci la epurare etnica
An Australian would care very much about the issue of Kosovo.
Indeed Australians are of many colours, creeds and races. Melbourne in Victoria is the second largest Greek city in the world after Athens.
Sydney used to have a Croat football club and a Serbian football club until the war started there and the war stared on stadiums here. Now we ban the use of other national flags other that the Australian one in sport clubs colours or stipes (RO: drapel sau camasa).
There are many "Yugoslavs" in the whole of Australia. Elena Dokic in tennis, Eric Bana in films. There are even Albanians here, Alexandru Buzo (yes! an Aromanian from Albania) is the playwrite who defined the modernist current in Australian theatre.
All these being said, Australians care about the people of Kosovo, Macedonia, Serbia and Croatia but we prefer not to take sides.
http://www.un.org/Depts/Cartographic/map/profile/serbia.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.un.org/Depts/Cartographic/map[..].pdf
UN official map of serbia...
http://www.nato.int/Kosovo/docu/u990610a.htm" target="_blank">http://www.nato.int/Kosovo/docu/u990610a[..]a.htm resolution 1244
AND MOST IMPORTANT: u state 63 nations reckognize Kosovo independence... but there are 195 total countries in the world meaning ONLY 1/3 OF ALL COUNTRIES ACCEPTED KOSOVO,so internationally kosovo is not accepted ....
I think that Kosovo&Metohija is part of US.
Read UN Resoultion 1244. UN represent real stats in the world . so just do this game to be real (reality = kosovo is serbia) ! SIMPLE !
Kosovo is Kosovo..
Macedonia is Macedonia..
Both independent countries in RL.
Awful
Again these boring issues
Kosovo is Emerick..
Macedonia is Emerick..
Everything is Emerick! That's an axiom!
There should be a standard as to which countries enter the game in eRepublik and I think the UN is both good and fair.
Using such a standard then the country would be FYROM to enter the game but at the same time Kosovo should belong to Serbia as is stated on the UN.
Kosovo can be compared to Spanish communities/regions. They all have their own separate parliaments and leaders but this doesn't give them the right to call them their own countries.
So:
FYROM is FYROM
Kosovo is Serbia
Macedonia is Greece