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Will there be a ministry of proper English as well?

Yes

@ new players
Most new players do not want help, if you contact all new players like I have done in my months as Minister of Education in eNL (and other countries) you wil see that a month you will only get a few to reply back if you're lucky. 90% of people of new players will not login in again because they don't like the game or forget. Players who want help I think who are motivated will be able to get the help they need

@cabinet
You could put some question marks on the activity on those people, most aren't active on forum and/or irc and that is necessary for most of those positions.

@ DAF
How will that help the MU if you replace the commander again? MU needs stability and replacing the CO again and each time a different person is CP shouldn't be happening. I understand you guys disagree but replacing the CO again and putting Weekstrom back will just hurt the MU and eNL

1. The current government is inactive as fuck and these new players are Multies or people who just got bored when they saw a few sustaining the political power

2. People on irc are just there to please a few group of useless individuals like the current cp and his awesome MoFA who just write articles about previous alliances, yep so awesome

3. DAF majority is not happy with an useless commander as Tim, basically he is just a figure because he doesn't even have done a shit in DAF after all the bs this government tried to make us see

Basically you are defending a joke aka Odan

1. Do you really think new people give a fuck or understand things like a few sustaining political power and that makes people quit? Most people quite the game, any (online browser) game, you see that here and in other browser games like for instance ogame.

2. You clearly do not understand how government works, how IRC contact is important also for contact with other countries, alliances etc etc.

3. people who are unhappy tend to be more vocal, that does not mean a majority of them is unhappy.

Let's use Odan's stats to make this more fun:

1. The 99% quit because this community have showed a low level of understanding and help to improve their gameplay since it's just a waste for the gameplay, it's a shame of course but the retention is none, except for the articlesby Shawty asking for gold to some unknown people, but that's another history

2. Really? I must say people from different communities don't find really entertaining the way jkli5_ (a moderator and inactive player) just troll with USA USA talks with the Germans counterattacks to jlki5_, clearly an awesome retroactive channel for our government and interests hahaha without counting Garmr as the main clown, but okay

3. People complaint against bad decisions, it's a fact

1. 90% of the people who sign up will quit/not come back regardless of anything. It has nothing to do with our community or the politics that is just how it works with any online browser game. And like I said, contacting them will not do much I have done that 3 months as minister of education in eNL but you get no response. people who want to play the game actively will do so.

2. No clue what you are on about really about jkli5 or what he has to do with anything. IRC is necessary especially during wars etc for direct communication.

3. People complain that is true, that does not mean it is a bad decisions just a decision that some people agree with. Just because people disagree and the people who disagree are more vocal does it mean the majority is against

Since you can't understan😛

The game is dying and the few who still play this shit are bored doing the same because no one else has voice and vote when a small group dominate the country

The irc channel is a joke these days with bad moderation

A bad decision always have bad repercussions and this time we are living that, let's expect this time someone else get elected as CP

LOL hurt the community. Tim is a joke, we are fixing the only thing that was still working before ODAN and co f-ed it up.

just wondering , why are you as a Belgian CP meddling in dutch affairs ..... seems to be a returning thing with you.....
Plse leave the dutch affairs to the dutch , we do NOT meddle in belgian affairs do we ?
You gave up your citizenship to be belgian plse keep it that way and leave eNl to its citizens thank you

I am an expat, so I am eNL citizen just not ingame 🙂

and ur a foreign president .... so plse keep to belgian affairs and not the dutch

This is a public article, I have as much right to respond here as anybody regardless of my citizenship of my positions ingame

Pathetic excuse since you participate in our congress section, don't try to denied it also what is this shit about expat?

Actually you should be blacklisted since you are a risk for our interests taking in consideration our relationship with eBelgium

Never heard of expat status? It's a special status for former Dutch citizens and with this status they will be able to still contribute to debates and vote in referendums, even if they are abroad. It's a great way to bind people to your country, even if they are sick of it. You have to ask for expat status yourself and the MoHa will grant you the status or deny it. Congress is able to remove the expat status.

yes i've heard of an expat status spirtus ,no need to try and lecture me m8🙂

Also think that it needs to be overhauled , my opinion is that a player with an expat status can not be in another countries government or be CP of another country .
If that situation occurs my pov is that the player needs to choose , it's either a foreign political career or expat status.

Coz with being in a other countries gov and being an expat , he will be able to influence dutch affairs as another countries official and even vote in the matter.

The status was made for players that would like to roam around the world and stay in contact with eNL.
Not for players that want an extensive foreign political career elsewhere.

You are right the expat status wasn't meant exactly for what it is used for. That is because of the recent adjustment of removing all foreign status into only one status, the expat status. So with this it can also used for dutch people in foreign countries, like Fhaemita and me to stay involved in Dutch politics.

If you move to a non-friendly country, getting expat status is much more difficult.

thats all good spirtus , but a foreign government official has no business meddling with dutch affairs .....expat or no expat ...... friendly or no friendly country ....
If you want a foreign political career fine than do it , but leave dutch politics alone .

If you're just an expat that lives abroad fine than you deserve the status in my pov

Its like having ur cake and eat it to .....

I don't agree. Why can't a politician not be a politician in both countries? You know, Politics is a very slow and boring module nowadays. There is not so much to do, so combining two countries is a good way to keep yourself motivated.

If we forbid to have expat status and a foreign political position we limit ourselves enormously. Sometimes I have that feeling that the majority of eNL, the soldiers, just wants to see all politicians gone one way of the other as fast as possible, so they can rule with their own dictator.

Luckily for me the expat status is in the law as a status for every dutch former citizen, even with a foreign political position. Unless congress will change this law, I will await the approval of the MoHa for the request of the expat status I did and I will stay involved in Dutch politics.

than we don't agree .....

Sometimes , i get the feeling that hardcore politicians want to see all soldiers just shut up an fight when they're told ..../ asked.
As they can can keep the country in a stranglehold ..... if/when one speaks his mind its useually a smear campaign and belittling the others stating that they aren't up to speed and don't understand the game.

And i do hope that there will be an overhaul of the expat status and congress will decide that expats should NOT be part of any foreign government.

I don't think its a good situation to have expats with 2 hats on , being an expat when it comes in handy at one point and being a foreign government official in other times .
It creates a very blurry and unwanted situation in my pov.
That (we) ..... or better that the players that do want to be both limit us that a concequence that we have to take , thing that it excludes is the controversial situation that we're in now .

Bit funny/rediculous that a belgian CP is telling a removed dutch commander that its his mistake and messed up even accusing him of not following orders...

Not even speaking about the so precious security risk that it brings along.
Not saying that info has been leaked , but the possibillity is surely there.
And when its occurs we're gonna get in to a sandbox discussion yes you did , no i didn't and is almost impossible to get the truth out .
Coz its gonna be his word against others...... creating another unwanted situation.....

So for me all the more reasons to make players choose between a foreign political career and being an expat.

Bit funny/rediculous that a belgian CP is telling a removed dutch commander that its his mistake and messed up even accusing him of not following orders.

I was doing this in my experience as eNL CP, I was CP of eNL for multiple terms

Voted! 😃

You're still here!

It's a Christmas miracle late overdue 😛

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Shtula
Day 2,935, 11:15
Are you serious??? That is your plan, program and ideas? Thats your gov, four people? 😃 Omg, who will be the CP...

also you are disappointed by the decision to replace weekstrom... you voted in favour....

Really? Was there a vote to replace me or was there a vote on how to interpret the law. Followed by one to vote in favor or against Tim?

there were 3 separate votes. the one i refer to was the one to replace you with tim. and he voted in favour of that decision.

Thx. Good to know.

Think he realized that he made a mistake with that vote and will probably correct it when he makes office.

Ppl do make mistakes as you well know and you have plenty of experience in that department.

Plan of the UNP was to vote for removing Weekstrom. Why? To show that no one but Week is unable to doing that job. You've had a month to show that you dont know nothing about DAF so we will put back someone who knows. Thanks.

sure it was shtula...

You might consider rephrasing that Shtula, now you are saying that Weekstrom is the only one that is unable to lead DAF 😉

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Some changes for readability so replacing the response obove...

After having consulted a few players to get the right picture it's clear to me what happened; There were 3 votes. The first 2 were about interpreting the law. In short; Is it allowed for the CP to order the replacement of the commander, which I questioned.
Both votes passed. In neither one of them Shtula voted. Nor did other members of his party due to the timing of the votes. Something used as an excuse on other issues by gov not to perform the last half of the term, but apparently misused for the congress forum voting in recent times as well although waved away on other places as something from the past.

After these two votes congress agreed on the interpretation of the law that odan used. The replacement of me was, at that point, legally decided. Without a single vote of Shtula.

The next vote was about the fact players questioned Tim as the right replacement due to the fact odan did not (and still hasn't) presented plans which made it clear it was necessary to replace me. On that vote Shtula voted no, in effect agreeing on Tim to be, the already decided upon, replacement of me. As that was a vote not voting on me being replaced but on my replacement Shtula did NOT vote in favour of my replacement.

So odan, your accusation of Shtula voting in favour of my replacement is incorrect and another fine example of the way you among others twist the things that happen/happened. You're blaming Shtula on something he did not do trying to get away from the attention on you.

I'd say typical...

What Shtula means is that he/our party voted in favor of removing week because noone should be above the law. And we figured you had a solid plan with the replacement actually functioning. The vote wasnt a lack of confidence in week. And considering week did fine in his time as commander we happily reinstate him.

Sorry for the grammar typing on my Phone is hard.

so that is why he didn't vote in the 2 actual votes about the law? but did vote in this one that only dealt with congress agreeing on the replacement.

Since you are throwing the inactivity of your goverment on the holiday's. You might be able to figure out the reason on your own here.

except those votes happened more than a week before christmas...

Still sounds like Christmas time to me

oh it's tuesday, sounds like it's time for me to go celebrate the weekend....

Well if I have to explain to you the phenomenom that everyone celebrates differently. I suppose you arent fit for running for president at all.

I'm done now
Cheers

In Serbia, christmas is tommorow! So lets fun and dance!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVevZnmpRkE

well that debunks your entire theory brokenlove.

Not quite

Brokenlove
Still sounds like Christmas time to me
Vote 0 Day 2,968, 07:08

...and it is..

so he was busy with his christmas celebrations more than 3 weeks before actual christmas in his region....

It would be great for the eNetherlands if Brokenlove and Steve_God will do a good job and develop themselves as active people who contribute to our country. But I have to say this team doesn't have much experience in managing a country, so I am curious how things will go in eNL in January. Good luck!

I am curious too belive me. Its christmas time, holidays, people are inactive, so, we will see. Thanks.