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Thank you Mr. President, been fine thanks.
It is an interesting political time.
Lets hope for the best.

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You asked everyone to go for PP elections just with one candidate, now your OWN party ruined this. Now DB will not able to vote for Madalin and kick PTOers. No doubt to say that it's something good for PTOers, another gift from DB to the PTOers.

Thank you!

I don't think it would be a problem for DB. Each candidate is approved and there is no pTO risk for DB. We shoud focus on Anonymous Party and vote for Madalin.

Are you calling me out?

"Another gift"? What were the other gifts?

You gave their leader citizenship of South Africa. Is there any greater gift than it?

Let me get this straight, the DB is responsible for any and all actions an individual member takes? Because then I have issues with the Desert Lions too.

Did any DL congressman approved PTOER? Especially their leader. Yes few of them approved someone illegally, is there any PTO action so far? Did those guys did anything bad? I don't think so. Last but not least, DL doesn't buy vote from PTOERS.

Glad we have it out in the open that people think I bought the votes. Especially from someone that I have supported and defended time and time again.

You see, by your logic that by "Individuals" representing the party, then that means that your thoughts that I bought PTOer votes, must mean the The Desert Lions and UP ALL think that I bought votes? Is this true?

I consider Ejdatful a good friend and I hope this doesn't mean you are speaking for him too?

You ask about PTOer actions, and some would say "Yes" there has been some attempted PTOer action from your circle. The vote to get Fhaemita to lose his HC, there were maybe 3 people vocally against him on the forums, yet he had 15 votes AGAINST him. Some would say that people who aren't active on the forums were trying to vote against him. In reality he only should have had a few votes. This is using your influence to "Take Over." if you will.

I've said time and time again that you guys are not PTOers and I will continue to defend you, but when you are lumping ME into a circle with the Macedonians, then I may see that as an act of PTO from YOU and the rest of the inactive Desert Lions.

This game of defamation can go both ways and I'd prefer we keep the accusations to ourselves, especially since I have been in your corner for months now.

Claudio, nice to see what kind of person you are under pressure. Doesn't matter what kind of conditions we have, Desert Lions cannot be blamed as PTOER here. I've always told my friends they should be careful about you. Poor them, they think you are a good friend.

DB gave citizenship to the leader of PTOERS. DB didn't help ATO this elections. The rest doesn't matter. I don't care what do you think about me. And for the record, I am very independent person.

I'm glad you are speaking only for yourself then, as am I. I don't mind criticism at all. You say I screwed up the elections, then so be it, I don't mind. You call me a PTOer, I'll bite back.

I agree with Claudio. For instance 2 members of the LDP said the same thing about Claudio, but that doesn't mean we support that. Just because a rogue congressman or two let in PTOers doesn't mean it's the whole party. And just because the PTOers voted for Claudio doesn't mean he supports them, they also tried to solicit their votes to Leon and Champinator, does that mean that they also support the PTO. I firmly believe the people speaking out against Claudio and calling him a PTOer, don't really believe what they're saying, they just want to make political hay and drum up false anger and fear.

Good! We're all in agreement then? Everyone speaks for themselves. Only admin can force my hand in this game.

We have to seperate letting PTOer in and going to election with 2 candidates. First one is not DB's fault, but about second one, of course it is. Rexdeus asked me to organize elections with only one candidate in order to help aTO. But DB didn't follow it.

Leon, you are correct. I agree separating the 2, there is no argument. DB did not follow protocol.

Citizens if you are being bribed to vote for candidates not on this list, I'll give a better deal if you vote for these candidates on this list. Don't think they'll compete with me for prizes but they'll be given if you vote for candidates on this list!

Message me the proof of the bribe with a screenshot and I'll give double their bribe if you vote for a candidate on the list, I will direct you to someone as my position of Deputy Minister of Security.

My vote is for sale. PM me to find out my price AND get sexually harassed. These 2 for 1 savings can be yours!

How much for just the molestation?

Hey I said harass, not molest. Quit trying to get me to touch you!

Fair enough. What will 500 ZAR get me then?

A western-style HJ and I'll compliment you on how nice you smell every twenty minutes no matter how much of a lie it is.

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Exactly.

Exactly how is that "elections" when there are "pre-approved" candidates then?

Not all of us in eSA work with PTOers like you do Claudio. This is a democracy. Which you are ruining

We all agreed on it, that's democracy. It's the only way to make sure PTOers didn't take anymore parties. Deal with it.

Yeah sure. It fits right in there with your self serving agenda doesnt it? Bravo.

Pathetic