[CoC] Referendum: Results
UNL Congress
Beste Burgers van eNederland,
Afgelopen nacht om 3:30 Nederlandse tijd liep het referendum af met daarin de vraag: Willen jullie dat eNederland lid wordt van Aurora?
55 van de 139 stemgerechtigden hebben hun stemmen uitgebracht met de volgende verdeling:
- Ja: 44
- Nee: 8
- Onthouden: 3
Met vriendelijke groet,
Transsvaal
Chairman of Congress
Steve_God
Deputy Chairman of Congress
Dear Citizens of the eNetherlands,
Last night at 3:30 dutch time, the referendum with the following question ende
😛Do you want eNetherlands to join Aurora?
55 of the 139 players with a legal vote did so in this way:
- Yes: 44
- No: 8
- Abstain: 3
Regards,
Transsvaal
Chairman of Congress
Steve_God
Deputy Chairman of Congress
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Comments
Aurora \o/
jeeej! back on track roght newspaper, and what an epic result!
Hail Aurora!
Hail the Netherlands!
Hail the Dragoons!
Why the Dragoons?
The Dragoons is a new international military unit that will fight on Aurora side
you mean your MU
XD ikr Schoft
Finally a choice has been made! Hurray!
The choice has been made 😃
Hail eNetherlands
Hail Aurora
55 votes out of 139, out of 489 is not really a result to be proud of. For me it's not enough to reckognise this as the wish of the majority of our people. I plea for more dialogue with the (on forum) silent majority.
Good thing at least 80% will recognize this result. Only problem is that you don't like the result. You know damn well that our active player base is very small so this amount is quite enough.
You know darn well our active players base isn't this small. What's wrong with you?😁
Yes it is, just look at the amount of voters last referendum 😉
@ M. De Ruyter: what do you define as our active player base?
I'd say the number of in-game active players is around 150 (check the last few elections).
This 139 is missing a few of those... Next. there are citizens who have 0 political interest, and who do not participate in any elections. According to Weekstrom's figure below that group has around 100 people, who aren't all active every day. Probably most of these 10 people are not represented on the forum, simply because they don't care.
still a very low number in my opinion.. i think the government should be a bit more interested in the active population & better results/ participation..Otherwise they are not doing their job 🙁 Politics shouldn't be all about the politicians, but rather the interest of the people & region they govern..
This will fail, but please surprise me 🙂
I suppose we could join LETO and get instant wiped 🙂
I never said we should join LETO 😉
139 players with a legal vote? Where does that figure originate from? The amount displayed at our country overview contains inactive citizens but 139 is rediculously low. That would mean either a typo (twice and therefore unlikely), people being excluded on certain grounds (Not likely as we're a democracy), a illogical premises or a way to prevent the outcome of being illegal due to not meeting the voting threshold or something like that. EIther way; I'd like to know where the amount originates from.
legal = law.... so it's in the lawbook
To vote, you needed an account on the forums that was identified as one from an eNL citizen or another status that allows you to take part in a referendum. You could argue if one should call only those legal voters, but as having a forum account is a requirement I interpreted it that way.
Technically to be a legal voter you dont need to be a member of the forum.. you just need to join before you vote.. & would be required to feel interested/ involved & supporting of the forum along with our government.. so easy to argue we have many more 'legal' voters (& active players).. they just choose not to..
Nope: 1. A referendum is a legally binding vote among all forum registered citizens with in-game citizenship of the eNetherlands.
There you go.
don't really care where we join , but that we join somewhere ........finally we're out of that boring deadlock....
Did a quick extra check; The number of active eDutch citizens according to egov is around 220 per day. We all know not all players are listed there but that's most likely a marginal difference. Furthermore we know not all players are active every day. That has a somewhat larger effect. Therefore it's safe to assume the actual amount of active players must be somewhere between 230 and 250.
So either there is some rule applied to exclude players that are active or it is a way to force the vote to be legal. I'm not sure, but it's likely we have a law stating the minimum % of players needed to take part on the voting. 55 of 139 = 39,6%. Rounded 40%. While 55 of 230 = 23,9%. 40% strikes me as a number that could very well be the minumum amount stated for occasions like this while I'm quite sure 23,9% will be way to low.
Please tell me I'm wrong...
It states in the referendum laws a referendum needs a quorum of 35% of the eNL citizen-group.
Keep in mind that this referendum is not binding for ourselves. It is a requirement to join Aurora and of course it's courtesy towards the eNL citizens.
The citizens had a chance to show their opinion, and the ones that did made it pretty clear what our course of action should be.
You are free to propose a change in that procedure Weekstrom if you believe we are doing wrong. Until then we will work by the current accorded procedures.
Voted! : ) eNL has spoken!!