Political Unity is Not Always a Good Thing
Dishmcds
So, here goes the initial rant.
Upon my arrival in the eUK, a country that I have always admired and had good ties with (I signed some treaty with them too, can't remember which one), the first thing I have noticed is that since Kaleb has left Presidency, there has been somewhat of a vacuum.
Going back through the political history in the UK, back to the days when the UKRP and 313'ers (N.E.W. at the time) battled it out for the "who" part in politics, Kaleb was the man of the hour. I would even go on to say that had he chosen to continue running for Presidency I dont think many of you would have voted against him. He showed himself to be a leader.
Since then, we've seen Final Destiny bring TUP up with his activity and goal of unity through action, rather than belief, and now KIA has done well under the Socialistic People's Communist Party. I've debated this with several people but here's what I have found to be true to me, the "normal" citizen.
1. The economy and government is neither transparent nor free. The Government chooses who can run a successful business and where, how many people you can employ and who you can employ. They do so through the use of the VAT taxes proposals, subsidies to companies who "cooperate" (which are majority owned by Government personnel), and generally making anyone who does anything they consider to be anti-UK to be horrible and evil. Basically, you, the common man will be shat on unless you conform.
2. The forums and access to the Government are horribly restricted. The Congress, no matter how organized they are, should be an open place for citizens to see how their Congressmen and women are supporting you. I would not ask to be allowed to post, but it would be nice to see what the Congress is actually doing. We've (as in us, the UK) have been working on a Constitution since Kaleb was in office in May. We have yet to see that. More or less, I would say that any Government "legislation" that has been decided and proposed is invalid unless you have some type of Constitution to back it up. Otherwise, the only thing Congress is technically allowed to do by default is vote on what the President says.
3. The growth in the UK has picked up slightly over the last week or so, but it is fairly constant with that of other countries. The UK will continue to fall behind, as it's not attractive to get people to come here under the slogan of "Come to the UK, where the Government rules and everyone is our slave". Sure, I could join the Army or any slew of Governmental programs, but what if I dont want to be related to the Government?
4. The elections here are rather dull, thus far. Party Elections are 4 days away. Has everyone simply made up their minds as to who to vote for? I havent seen one shred of campaign from any candidate (unless the media bumped it, which isnt likely considering I check often) about what they intend to do as a candidate. I am sure you'll come back with "We do that in our Party Forums", but what good does that do me? These people are going to be up for President, so these Party Elections should be rather interesting. But, apparently we have better things to do.
I am sure I could come up with more. I am sure most of you probably wont read this, and I am sure that most of you that do are probably going to tell me that I am off base.
But here's the facts: I know what has worked. I don't need an econ degree (or textbook) to tell me what makes the economy grow, or what makes us grow in size. I dont need a lesson, and I dont need a tissue. I'd like to see some action from a Government which, in it's utopic state is run by the people, not one run by the top 40 people of a country and denies input from the majority of the rest of it.
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I don\'t beleive that the UK congressmen and women deny input from the citizens of the UK.
And the government also only uses the VAT subsidy system..or the \"Twat-ers\" where neccessary.. we don\'t dictate exactly what companies can and can\'t do.
If they damage the UK then they\'re punished.. the only people that complain about that are the dodgy company owners. (and yourself of course).
For the record, I dislike what you\'ve proposed on an open congress. It\'s a bad idea, but there is currently something being discussed that, if passed, will make congress more transparent.
The forum isn\'t horribly restricted anyway. You don\'t have acces to a party forum? join a party. You don\'t have access to the military forum? join the military.
Giving access to these things to everyone as standard is a bad thing.
I like that you\'re trying to get other political parties actively campaigning. That would be great.
\"I like that you\'re trying to get other political parties actively campaigning. That would be great.\"
That much is true. Throughout History we have had great political struggles.
November: Erepublik Party Party vs Conservatives (though the Conservative leader got banned.)
December: UKRP vs UKAP (LUE and Cybernations)
January: UKRP vs N.E.W (A tie between Kaleb and 94asm)
February: UKRP/PCP/TRP vs 313RP/UAP (Coalition battle)
March: UKRP vs TUP (Paul vs Kaleb)
April: UKRP vs TUP vs PCP (Three way fight between Shadow, Paul and IP)
May: UKRP vs TUP: (Shadow vs Final Destiny in a very close election)
June: PCP landslide win for many factors.
July: PCP wins over UKRP.
Basicly politics has gotten a damn sight boring and someone needs to step up and be counted.
>For the record, I dislike what you\'ve proposed on an open congress.
You can open it to where people can see it. They just wont be able to post in Congress.
And I feel there should be a \"commons\" area of Congress to propose things, say a petition to devalue GBP.
And it\'s not that I want access to a Party. How many times do I have to say that? Most of the discussion takes place behind closed doors. How are the normal citizens supposed to have input on things they cant see in the General Area? PCP can\'t see UKRP, etc. I would venture to say that if you looked at post counts from the last two months, the Party Forums would be equal by themselves to all your General forums combined (taking out Congress and Military).
Why the need for viewing party boards though?
Party discussions are for party members. They discuss campaigning, policies, issues, anything.. but it\'s between the party members alone.
if something is or should be discussed by members of various partys then it takes place in the general board or the public discussion board.
I agree about the lack of campaigning thats going on, I tried to get the TUP candidates to do something but nothing has come of it yet. Maybe we\'ll get loads coming in over the next few days and i\'ll be proved wrong, but I doubt it.
I agree with you on all points Dishmcds (except allowing party boards to be freely vieved), and I find the political state of eUK very frustrating. TUP looks totally dead and it is just going to get worse unless activity increases dramatically. UKRP doesn\'t seem as active as it was and seem happy with old ideals. PCP is the is turning the eUK into a nanny state with too many restrictions and a stranglehold on the marketplace. Plus as they are in power they are getting all the sheep voters and new players joining.
We do need more campaigning, a 2 party system makes the elections so much less interesting.
Party discussions should always be private, there\'s no way a smaller party can win if the larger ones know of all their plans and policies. (too easy to steal and rebrand then claim credit.)
Congress can be transparent, but at the right time. Also - if we\'re having proposals leaked, I\'d lobby for voting records of congress - this would show who turns up and when and what they stand for which may not be the same as their party.
\"Plus as they are in power they are getting all the sheep voters and new players joining.\"
This is NOT something anyone can complain about, from founding we where the 4th largest party and we managed to beat the sheep.
All it takes is a decent amount of work, prominant members and some decent NEW policy.
94asm popped his head in recently. He revived.
i totally agree with 2
The Houseof commons isn\'t transparant
tehrefore, I put a proposal in congress to publish proposals, but so far it seemsthat it will not be passed.
I will put a third proposal in congress (the last one, this would be the second time I adjust it) hopefully you\'ll be able to view all proposals in the near future
I agree with you Dish, that the Commons should be viewable, albeit with a private section for legislation deemed important to eUK security, defence, etc.
This would be extremly useful for controvesial proposals such as the Business Social Contract. Not only would citizens know of it, but it would dissapate rumours and lay fears to rest (if they\'re unfounded anyway), this would be good for both supporters and detractors.
As I have said above, there is one (now two!) proposals in congress that will help make parliament more transparent.
i agree with sidh on most points and im happy to see that th congress wants to do something about transparency. It remains to be seen whether this will be enough 😉
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Hear, hear! I also agree with Dish. There should be a public gallery where normal subjects can view Parliamentary debates and votes. There could be a private forum for the Cabinet, but Cabinet minutes should be published once they are no linger sensitive and private military forums, with no disclosure.
The last couple of sentences of #2 have a good point, Congress doesn\'t actually have the right to decide anything apart from stuff it gets to vote for in game. For anything else there\'s no reason why they should be the only ones to have a say.
We should abolish Congress and have the people vote for MP\'s in an e-House of Commons.
\"We should abolish Congress and have the people vote for MP\'s in an e-House of Commons.\"
Hear, hear!
I don\'t understand why the constitution is only being written by congress either. That\'s not what they\'re there for, everyone should get some kind of say in it.