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O ένας σας λέει ανθέλληνες και ο άλλος δεν σας θέλει...καλά μιλάμε για πολύ γέλιο !!!

Periklhs auto to arthro=gegonota. Apo foumara eimaste komple.

Jag δώσε στο λαό γνώση !!!ομολογιακή...

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"Εχοντας αναλογικα λιγοτερα εξοδα σαν κρατος, αλλα έναν κρατικο στρατο σχεδον αναλογο με τον σημερινο καταφερναμε κ «καιγαμε» παρα πολύ λιγα GRD για καλυψη αναγκων"
Κρατάω αυτό 🙂

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simfono ektos apo tin deuteri iposmeiosi.

kai ΟΧΙ με μη εφαρμοσιμες RL θεωριες
edo ennoeis in game eformosimes an katalavaino sosta-auto nomizo kai ego oti kalos i kakos rl oikonomiki theoria den einai efarmosimi akrivos sto game.

"το ΕΕΚ είναι πισω" εγώ κρατάω αυτό γιατί είμαι υποστηρικτής της ιδέας από τότε που ξεκίνησα.

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nai dourjorje i rl oikonomiki theoria den einai efarmosimi sto game para mono sto elaxisto tis

@Lucinos opws eipa k ston Perikli, sto arthro auto den upothetw, apla parathetw gegonota gia na blepoume oloi ti ginetai k na min epireazomaste apo tous kindunologous. Oloi summerizontai tis anisuxies twn e-sumploitwn mas alla de xreiazetai na einai uperbolikes otan i pragmatikotita einai alli. Gegonota loipon oxi upotheseis apo edw k pera.

βόουτεντ

δεν ισχυρίστηκα ποτέ ότι η καταστροφή είναι αναπόφευκτη (διάβασε το άρθρο μου και δες και μόνος σου). Αυτό που ισχυρίζομαι είναι ότι τα μήλα πέφτουν προς τα κάτω και ότι αν έχουμε πράγματι την άνεση να μοιράζουμε λεφτά τότε έχουμε την ίδια άνεση αντί να μοιράζουμε λεφτά να μειώσουμε την φορολογία. Το αν προτιμάτε να έχετε φορολογία και να μοιράζετε λεφτά από το να μην έχετε και να μην μοιράζετε είναι άλλο θέμα.

Αλλο θεμα ειναι αυτο της φορολογιας κ ευχαριστως το συζηταμε σε αλλο αρθρο. Εδω συζηταμε για GRD/Issues/Monetary/Ιστορικα δεδομενα.

Τωρα αν κ δε θελω να επεκταθω,η μειωση της φορολογιας/διαθεσιμων κεφαλαιων κτλ κτλ εχει να κανει αμεσα κ με την δυνατοτητα διαχειρισης. Αν δε μπορεις να διαχειριστεις μια κατασταση,κανε μειωση φορων για να περασει το οφελος στον πολιτη. Αν νομιζεις οτι μπορεις να την διαχειριστεις κ διατηρεις κ τους φορους εισοδηματος ως ειχαν πριν καμποσους μηνες ,υποθετοντας το γιατι, αυτο ειναι ενα αλλο θεμα επισης.

@jaguaros
επειδη εντεχνα στρεφεις το θεμα του ομολογου, σε ενα αρθρο σου,
το αθεμιτο ειναι το εξης: καποιοι δανειζουν gold στο κρατος, για να τα ριξει στο issue και περνει πισω 200GD αντι για 33GRD που περνουν τα αλλα κοροϊδα απο την ΜΜ

εκει δεν εχεις να πεις τπτ
οσο για RL και eRep οικονομικες εφαρμογες, στην eπραγματικη οικονομια της παραγωγης προϊοντων, εχει και παραεχει εφαρμογες η RL,
στην χρηματοδοτικη (δες ΜΜ), δεν εχει και πολλες, αλλα μην χαιρεσε που το καταλαβες, απλα οι σχεδιαστες δεν σκαμπαζουν. αρα ο μονοφθαλμος στους τυφλους...

τελειως φιλικα

The basic laws of the monetary market:

Privately held GRD sold = Privately held GRD bought
(TaKunCat is fond of saying buyers = sellers. Basically, there is no point of the government trying to edge out those trying to sell privately held GRD. They are only increasing the size of the line.)

Government GRD sold = Total GRD bought - Privately held GRD bought
(It is very simple here, as there are two places from which the monetary market GRD buyers can get it, the gov't and everyone else that already has some.)

Now here is one more, related to other ways of GRD entering the economy.

Total GRD injected into economy = New citizen fees + Gov't funding of programs and Gov't purchases with GRD + Gov't GRD sold

Now it is very simple to understand that the amount of GRD needed for the economy to function is not a variable of the amount of Gov't purchases with GRD, but rather a variable primarily of the number of players active in Greece and their level (secondarily, of the companies and of the player's habits). Since this is an independent variable, we can conclude...

For every GRD that enters the economy by any way other than sale from the Hellenic Depository, that is 1 less GRD sold by the Hellenic Depository for GOLD.

And, therefore, people must understand that the government is never REALLY getting a discount when it buys things with GRD first before selling their GRD for GOLD. Indeed, the idea that the government gets a discount by buying things with GRD is -costing- the government much in terms of inefficiency... and in terms of revenue lost in sales of GRD for GOLD by the Hellenic Depository.

Fin.

Buck Roger +1

Welcome buck, Rogers 🙂 Salute Dio for me and use please greek cause my english is very poor.

Though with my poor english i do understand that i dont get a reply to my article, besides the deion of GRD/Gold mechanism in our GAME economy. Thank you for the valuable info but i'm aware of those.

Facts, gens. Facts. This is what i write and i need replies on the facts and all the situation that has been communicated from the most political parties regarding this " GRD devaluation" issue.

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Αν μη τι άλλο το άρθο μιλά με στοιχεία και αφού "Οι ιδιωτικες ομαδες δημιουργηθηκαν για να καλυψουν την στρατιωτικη ανυπαρξια" όπως λέει ο Jag πρέπει να δοθούν πλάνα εναλλακτικών λύσεων από όσους έχουν αντίθετη άποψη γιατί δυστυχώς με θεωρία δεν μπορούμε καταλήξουμε πουθενά.

"And, therefore, people must understand that the government is never REALLY getting a discount when it buys things with GRD first before selling their GRD for GOLD. Indeed, the idea that the government gets a discount by buying things with GRD is -costing- the government much in terms of inefficiency... and in terms of revenue lost in sales of GRD for GOLD by the Hellenic Depository."

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No issuing=No liquidity=Increased need to buy currency = Raise of gold/currency rate. With any sequelae.

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Welcome back Buck.
A couple of things.
1.You are saying
''Government GRD sold = Total GRD bought - Privately held GRD bought''
The last term should be Privately held GRD sold (not bought)

2.''the amount of GRD needed for the economy to function is not a variable of the amount of Gov't purchases with GRD, but rather a variable primarily of the number of players active in Greece and their level (secondarily, of the companies and of the player's habits). Since this is an independent variable''

Here i believe there is an indirect effect of government spending to the optimal amount of GRD(say needed for the economy to function).This indirect channel goes through the dependency of government spending on the number of active players.
Otherwise Ministry of Young Players and its projects would be meaningless.
Hence, i do not believe it is an independent variable.
Gov.Spending-->Number of Active Players-->Amount of GRD required

Buck Roger +1

@Thanasis Shoinas
Just from curiocity,you vote what Buck is saying cause you cant read the wiki..?

ti 8es na peis?

@kiffer
An anaferese sto arthro mou, thelw na pw oti, i katastrofologia apo meros politwn peri tou effect twn issue stin isotimia tou GRD, apotelei toulaxiston uperboli ti stigmi pou me 4.3 dis GRD stin plati mas pigame to GRD apo 0.003 sta 0.03 k exei parameinei ekei 8 mines. Katanoito..? Gia na ginei auto akolouthithikan diafora policies k energi summetoxi tou kratous sto MM. Se auto to PAIXNIDI loipon oi mixanismoi einai dedomenoi gia na petuxeis (i na apotuxeis) se kapoia pragmata k opoiesdipote RL ampelofilokindunologies einai atopes.

katalaba thanks

voted sumfwnw me to ar8ro kai opoio komma ginete gia na paei brosta thn xwra me vash tous mhxanismous tou paixnidiou kai oxi thn ideologia tou proedrou/melwn tou 8a me vriskei dipla tou🙂
Giati omws den diekdikeis thn epomenh proedria tou kee?
8a exeis megales pi8anotites pisteuw..

με το πεταγμα 200 χρυσων απο το HD στην αγορα για να κρατισει τις τιμες καθε μερικες μερες.

pws diladi auksaneis tin aksia tou nomismatos, apo 0,003 se 0,03. de to katalava auto kala

@devorg
Den anebainei apo 0.003 se 0.03 "petwntas" 200g sto HD..

@Jaguaros
lol

@dourjoje
No, even with that consideration, it is still an independent variable. Why? Because the increased amount of active players is a function, not of the injection of GRD into the economy by the Ministry of New Players, but of the sending of gifts and food (and advice). That does not need to be achieved through donation of government GRD to the Ministry of New Players. It could instead be achieved by the donation of GOLD to the Ministry of New Players. (This is indeed how the eUSA does it, by donating GOLD to every military branch or any other program. It does wonders for increasing transparency, both transparency of how much money the government is earning and transparency of how much is being spent by each agency.)

@GiannisX
This is correct, but so is what I wrote. On the one hand, pushing GRD into the economy by any method other than sale of GRD for GOLD by the Hellenic Depository reduces the amount of GRD that can be sold for GOLD by the Hellenic Depository. On the other hand, you cannot expect the privately held GRD to float the system forever, because that line to sell it will naturally get shorter, as the total demand for GRD increases and as GRD leaves the economy for various reasons (including player and organization death). Therefore, you are correct, there is a natural need for the issue of GRD and for the sale of GRD for GOLD (or for otherwise putting GRD into the economy... which reduces the sale of GRD for GOLD).

@Buck Rogers

Exactly. Therefore issuing is a matter of correct controlling and not about citizens paying indirectly the needs of the nation.

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