LitoII ex CP of Bulgaria (CoT HQ)
ElvenCRO ex CRO MoFA
MIDNIGHT HOTING 🙂
[00:47:35]
Hello mate
[00:47:40] hi
[00:47:42] do u have some time to spare?
[00:47:42] 😛
[00:47:46] of course
[00:47:50] lovely
[00:47:55] do u know who I am?
[00:48:12] CP of eBulgaria?
[00:48:21] used to be 😃
[00:48:25] just helping now
[00:48:37] so you're just advisor now or?
[00:48:52] if my advice is being asked for, yes
[00:49:13] ok
[00:49:47] maybe u can guess why I am contacting you
[00:50:17] I'm not so sure why 🙂
[00:50:40] well, I can't say Bulgaria and Croatia are on perfect terms right now
[00:50:52] I'd like to warm a little bit the relations
[00:51:05] although it won't be like it used to be 🙂
[00:51:19] I see
[00:51:50] what do u say?
[00:52:39] first thing first, I just want to say that Bulgaria has some unsettled scores and some big talk with Croatia before warming any relations between
[00:53:05] do u want to speak straight?
[00:53:36] I'm not in gov, so as I said I'm on my will speaking with you 🙂
[00:54:13] and if Bulgaria really want to get close to Croatia, they must show their good will (by that I mean bulgarian players must show will to have better relationships)
[00:55:36] I'm already speaking straightly :9
[00:55:39] * 🙂
[00:55:41] if the high ranks are willing to cooperate
[00:55:47] players will start too
[00:56:01] many are already shouting for cro mpp
[00:56:18] why is that so suddenly?
[00:56:32] we were expecting that Serb-RO MPP
[00:56:36] for several months
[00:56:41] players also knew it will happen
[00:57:05] our main goal was, Serbs not to put the fault on us
[00:57:10] like they are trying to
[00:57:43] so, it's not really that suddenly
[00:57:45] what's your relationship with Serbia?
[00:58:03] we were forced to cooperate with them
[00:58:13] who's forcing you?
[00:58:15] but we never even think about joining their alliance
[00:58:24] the fact that we had an open war with Turkey
[00:58:28] for the past year
[00:58:41] and which EDEN would not agree to close
[00:58:49] since the beginning of 2013
[00:58:59] which is more than 4 months now 🙂
[00:59:23] so do you want to close taht war with Turkey?
[00:59:28] yes
[00:59:40] and they are aware of that
[00:59:53] Nenya was negotiating for them 🙂
[01:01:02] so is there any possiblity to have peace with them?
[01:01:18] now when there's no EDEN
[01:01:53] as of now, yes
[01:02:12] however, I don't think Greek and MKD war will ever close
[01:02:17] that would be great
[01:02:20] not with the current CP of theirs 😃
[01:02:30] hm
[01:03:13] r u thinking that war between cot and TWO is inevitable?
[01:03:24] only one thing can stop it
[01:03:39] and this is Romania dropping the MPPs with TWO
[01:03:57] and Greece not signing MPPs with TWO 🙂
[01:04:13] I see
[01:04:32] in that case where will be your next focus'
[01:04:34] but won't you enjoy it if such a war starts?
[01:04:55] I'm already focusing on gathering all Serbian foes together 🙂
[01:05:37] I 'mean if war between Cot an 2 never occurs..where will be your war focus?
[01:06:27] we've had enough war
[01:06:30] for the moment being
[01:06:58] I can't answer you on that with a single country
[01:07:11] but we are in a war with Romania
[01:07:16] which won't end soon
[01:07:23] as you must have noticed 😛
[01:07:50] i see
[01:07:54] well
[01:08:13] as i said before..there is some issues between Cro and Bul
[01:08:21] which must be resolved
[01:08:32] do u want to name them?
[01:08:39] if we want to start warming relationship
[01:09:13] anybody can vouch that I am an open minded person
[01:09:19] first of all..as you know..croatian players doesn't forget anything so easely
[01:09:35] do u imply our shift of side last year?
[01:09:43] incident with turkey
[01:09:50] Mexico RWs
[01:09:53] Flausino
[01:10:03] diplomatic set-ups in India
[01:10:07] a lot of things
[01:10:10] frankly
[01:10:14] what is it with India
[01:10:19] I must have missed that one
[01:11:37] I don't know details
[01:11:39] but
[01:12:15] some bulgarians had some nastly plans to screw our positions in india
[01:12:20] oh 😃
[01:12:23] it's simple
[01:12:30] first, India is a great friend of ours
[01:12:32] second
[01:12:40] that was a tool to keep Serbia calm
[01:12:49] they would give anything to keep Cro in India
[01:12:49] 🙂
[01:13:32] you should have seen them, how scared they were of the chance to have Croatia back on the Balkans..
[01:13:55] ok
[01:14:04] i know that
[01:14:06] about the other two things
[01:14:20] would you let me simplify them too?
[01:14:39] fine to me
[01:14:50] first, Turkey is deffinitely not a friend of ours
[01:15:03] you are aware of the RL issues some time ago
[01:15:10] and a big part of our ePopulation
[01:15:16] joined with the promise of fighting Turks
[01:15:31] this is when we joined EDEN and left Phoenix
[01:15:42] so, having them in EDEN escalated a little bit too much
[01:15:45] on the internal stage
[01:16:06] I don't remembering you being in EDEN when we left
[01:16:08] I was aMC then
[01:16:23] but everybody in HQ was aware that we were about to leave
[01:16:29] the only thing we got
[01:16:33] was a push towards Serbia
[01:16:45] but we didn't want to go to ONE neither
[01:16:48] so we started CoT
[01:16:55] Flausino in Mexico
[01:17:08] you know that guy.. he even tanked for Romania last week
[01:17:16] because he lost CP elections last month
[01:17:22] and the current CP did more than fine
[01:17:41] and some ppl of course supported him, because of blaiming Croatia on bringing Turkey to EDEN
[01:17:49] all in all
[01:17:56] leaving EDEN was just as painful to us
[01:18:00] as it was to you guys 🙂
[01:18:17] does this meet your expectations?
[01:18:21] I know
[01:18:40] i just wanted to hear your side of story
[01:18:41] things are really much more complicated
[01:18:45] but I'd rather keep them simple
[01:18:58] because we can both accuse each other of different thigns 😑
[01:20:11] I know..and I agree
[01:20:58] lovely 🙂
[01:21:31] so, should I be left with the impression that u guys are willing to cooperate?
[01:22:48] but simple croatian players have picture of bulgarians as childish and full of RL hatred, and main cause of losing of balance
[01:23:00] 😃
[01:23:10] we are very emotional yes
[01:23:19] because of that RL issues you had back then when you leaved alliance
[01:23:24] articles and stuff
[01:23:33] u cannot say that you haven't seen Bulgarians fighting in ur RWs
[01:23:36] against Serbia
[01:23:36] 🙂
[01:24:07] I cant say they were or not 'cause I haven't seen them myself
[01:24:08] but
[01:25:21] leaving alliance beacuse of RL hatred and not respecting votes from otherm members of the alliance, is hard to forget for Croatian players
[01:25:33] you and me can agree what ever we want
[01:25:51] but it's the players who make relationships or not
[01:26:28] Bulgaria didn't respect other EDEN vots for entering of Turkey
[01:26:36] well, about respecting votes, I can say it from my point of view too
[01:26:41] Bulgaria gave ultimatum to whole EDEN
[01:26:48] we didn't want Turkey in EDEN, other countries did not respect our veto
[01:26:49] we left
[01:26:54] but I don't really want to go there
[01:26:55] just because it was not on their will
[01:27:05] and taht's what croatian players know
[01:27:07] and think
[01:27:09] I'm not really talking about becoming BFFs overnight
[01:27:14] not everybody
[01:27:20] but most of them
[01:27:21] but having a common enemy can bring us closer
[01:27:46] did we really give an ultumatum?
[01:28:04] because I can go into detail and tell you the story
[01:28:07] and if and your players from bulgaria convince croatian players otherwise ..then we'll have open ed doors for further talking
[01:28:08] 🙂
[01:28:17] because I trust you
[01:29:14] well, isn't this why I am here tonight? 🙂
[01:29:29] meybe you are :9
[01:29:33] * 🙂
[01:29:36] I can't promise you that people will come to your doors and beg you for forgiveness or so
[01:29:42] and you are perfectly aware of that
[01:29:55] of course I never thought on that
[01:30:00] what i wanted to say
[01:30:10] is if we want warmer relationship
[01:30:16] I won't be telling you fairy tales that we will be that close as we used to be two summers ago
[01:30:21] our common players most show that
[01:30:24] mutualy
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4] they will
[01:3😇
6] step by step
[01:3😇
9] they will
[01:30:42] I am confident in that
[01:30:57] so how do you plan that 😃
[01:31:00] I can't promise you that, but I can tell you that it will happen
[01:31:10] as I said
[01:31:16] downwards
[01:31:29] you already signed MPP with USA
[01:31:34] that was against the charter of CoT
[01:31:46] tell it a good will
[01:32:25] for the moment being I'd just like to be on good terms with u 😛
[01:32:28] so USA will have problems in alliance because our MPP?
[01:32:44] they won't
[01:33:02] don't worry for them
[01:33:26] just wanted to show you that we were also involved into signing this mpp
[01:33:48] involved?
[01:34:55] the charter forbids a member state to sign MPP with a country that has a MPP with a country that is in an open war with a CoT country
[01:35:09] 😃
[01:35:11] you have MPP with Argentina who are in war with Chile
[01:35:29] don't forget romania
[01:35:36] didn't you drop that one?
[01:35:37] and turkey
[01:35:39] and greece
[01:35:47] greece got dropped today
[01:35:53] we are not in a war with turkey
[01:36:15] yeh I talked not for today
[01:36:39] but days before when youwere "involved" in talking for MPP
[01:36:42] 🙂
[01:37:04] well, let's say I didn't expect them to drop it so soon 😛
[01:37:12] 🙂
[01:37:15] what I meant was
[01:37:22] that some people had to close their eyes
[01:37:24] and they did
[01:37:45] and hope that you can see this as a proof that we are willing to bring you closer
[01:37:57] and do not see Croatia as an enemy anymore 🙂
[01:38:17] well, Mexico still don't like you, but there are other reasons for that 😃
[01:38:37] I see..but, bro I'ts not me to must convince 😃
[01:38:52] if I don't have you convinced
[01:38:53] as I said you and me can agree in everything
[01:39:01] I can't even hope on convincing anybody else
[01:39:01] 😛
[01:39:05] good
[01:39:23] are you going to be Argrob's MoFA as well?
[01:39:34] it's up to bulgarian players for no
[01:39:38] *now
[01:39:55] i have lot or RL business this month
[01:40:00] I could set it up quite easily
[01:40:03] so Atea will be MOFA
[01:40:06] by bringing some BG MUs to fight for you
[01:40:10] and I'll just help her
[01:40:11] in a RW vs Serbia
[01:40:13] when I can
[01:40:21] but I don't think it is the right timing atm
[01:40:26] that's one thing
[01:4😇
9] maybe aricels could help also :9
[01:40:42] imo
[01:40:48] Atea.. is it a she :?
[01:41:02] yep
[01:41:23] are you aware of her stand on the issue?
[01:41:30] and Argrob's of course
[01:42:05] we all have similar views
[01:42:16] our current allies are priority
[01:42:23] of course
[01:42:26] and we don't leave anyone
[01:42:31] I know that
[01:42:38] anyone else can go and leave
[01:42:43] but not we firts
[01:42:46] it might be rude
[01:42:47] *first
[01:42:57] but that's why we are waiting for others to leave you 
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