[eUK] Orion 'ATO'? Seriously...Keep out of our Politics.
Day 3,487, 12:17
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by WayneKerr
So yeah,
seeing as I've been tasked with something to do with Alliances this month (I have no idea what Dish requires of me, but I'll do my best Farage impression, while ignoring Apples and Rex), I thought it best make a start. I'll start with letting you know some truths.
I couldn't even tell you who is in Orion. From the top of my head, eFrance, eCanada, eCuba and of course us. That's without looking at the alliance page! There are many reasons for this, one because I've never given a toss about the circle-jerking, boys-club that we call 'Alliance politics'. Those of you old enough may even remember Iain Keers trying to give me grief about Sirius during my epic CP term.
Another reason why I have no idea who our alliance members are is due to our crappy MoFA's. Since my return, some 8 months ago, our perma-MoFA AMD has not been forth coming with information nor extolling the virtues of being in such an alliance! Many of us don't feel a connection to Orion.
It's a known fact that I dislike Orion and that I believe eUK should never have joined it, we were rushed into it, without proper discussion by players that just wanted to feel a bit more important. Some may remember way back when, when BaronChris tried to get us in to LETO, which is basically Orion. LETO, much like Orion, was Assteria's bitch alliance. The guys that ran LETO were retarded, I imagine the Apple hasn't fallen far from the tree!
oh Saiwun, remember when you used to think you were important?
I mean after all, the guys in Orion can't be too smart, they elected AMD to be their SG! Which brings me nicely on to another point I would like to make. Orion is nothing more than a place shit tier countries hang out in order to scare off aggressors due to the affiliation with Assteria. It is not a functioning alliance, we are not a brotherhood, I'd dare say, we ain't even really friends. We basically do as we are told by Papa Assteria in the hope that when the shit hits the fan, Assteria send us over some of their damage.
As nothing more than a banner shit tier nations flock around in order to be 'protected' by Assteria, what right do the 'leaders' (I use the term loosely) have in interfering with our domestic politics? As you will see below, those among us from the eUK already sat at the Alliance table, wished to keep a grip on their power by getting the alliance to come and vote for them in recent elections, they even suggested they would not recognise our elected CP, if he was not to their liking! They painted this out to be a PTO. Regardless of Dappers past actions, his current actions have been far from a PTO. Appleby and his merry men, even bragged about electing Dapper in comments and claim that without them, he would never have been CP!
These are the actions of players that are worried about losing power. If you are worried about a PTO, you don't elect the chief of the 'PTO' to be CP. Our politics has always been nasty and divisive, if we are not on the brink of meltdown, we are not active. Orion, don't interfere with our domestic issues. We don't elect you, so you have no say in the direction we go. This kind of stuff with not endear the alliance to the general public. It certainly will not make me a friend and an ally. The recent couple of months have been nothing but a powercrab. Keep your nose out of it.
Everyone knows I love a good PTO, but not when it involves dirty Forigs. So if Appleby, Sambo and the rest of em wish to 'ATO' the eUK. Do it using eUK players. Have I taught you guys nothing?
farewell for today eUK
Wayne
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Powercrab? Sounds awesome!
http://img01.deviantart.net/94fd/i/2016/061/7/d/attack_of_the_incredible_giant_crab__by_vegasmike-d9tp6w2.jpg
it was a term used years ago to describe a BigAnt way of doing things. If you search through Malices articles (well worth a reread) you'll find it.
https://www.erepublik.com/en/article/news-era-5-choose-your-own-potato-2310288/1/20
Surprised WRP weren't labelled PTOer thought that'd probably be a step too far
*Sharpens sabre for rattling*
WRWho?
I would agree we need to address our own house first. I do believe, however, the ATO they were talking about was Ajay though. Over the coming weeks we'll move forward and see where we are in terms of futures, and go from there. We need to figure out ourselves, and then our way while we're at it.
Whether it was Ajay or not, it didn't require asking Forig players to get involved.
So let me get this straight your saying that even though BP/Lemon cheated their way into Congress with masses of multis and then impeached the CP to put in place a known PTO'er and cheat himself we just sit back and do nothing?
lol, you have the numbers in the eUK required to defeat them. Stop being so lazy.
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I think publishing PM is forbiden till everyone member of the pm accept it 🙂
Not when it constitutes a National Security threat. You lose all your privacy and confidentiality rights if your gonna start pissing around in my eCountry without my permission.
It's called "leaks" and happens far too infrequently. Need more leaks! 😉
Forbidden? Nope
If it were forbidden then exactly how are you going to enforce any punishment?
Perhaps Wayne would like to explain why having BP/Lemon use masses of multis to steal congress and then remove the CP to put in place a known PTO'er and cheat himself is not a National Security threat?
Where did I say it wasn't?
eUK national politics is to much of a mess(for years) for me to understand 🙂. I still believe there are two groups who hate each other but both are eUK citizens so PTO?
Surely, every time two opposing groups contest an election, it's a PTO?
When it's eUKers v eUKers, a PTO is fine, I'll even participate, but when one side requests forig aid, then I have issues with it.
I think the important thing that's not being mentioned here by Wayne and something he has completely glossed over these last few days for some reason, is that the BP/Lemon party's are not just one side of a genuine debate. They are the cheats - best example of which is BigAnt a known erepublik Scammer, liar, thief and cheat. At the last Congress elections the Lemon party used masses of multis to displace a genuine party from Congress. This has upset the balance of Power in the eUK. If you want to check - Lemon had 35 members on the screen shot above, now look - https://www.erepublik.com/en/party/lemon-party-5344/1 20, yes 20 got perma banned a few days back. That is cheating on a scale I've not witnessed ever before in the eUK.
When you add in the numbers from the election itself, which seems to be UKRP related, the scale of cheating going on by all sides is astounding and truly depressing.
What Paul is ignoring is the events that led up to what transpired. Dapper was CP 2 months ago, his term was bang on average, nothing bad or good to be said except he managed to fill the eUK coffers with 500kish extra CC. Instead of playing on this seemingly neutral period in eUK's history, certain players decided to become very divisive . We all know what Dapper and BA are like, they will be watched like hawks by your side I assume. Only issue is now we have to keep an eye on players in UKRP too. Seriously, the last thing you wanted to do on BigAnt's return was the same tactics used on me. Try to alienate him and his associates. I'll defeat you with words, they will try to defeat you with action...
Regardless, recent actions do not require outside intervention.
But there were less votes in total than last month and we know that no votes were removed during the election or after - other countries had both removed. The last candidate in the eUK to have votes removed during the confirmation phase was Prince Harry (4)
I would expect less votes this month, seeing as both sides lost a shit load of multis... You can't beat Dapper with a stick for multis when the side you are sitting on were also using multis. Both sides are shitty Paul. #Notall (cuz I know your a sensitive snowflake), but the ones who feel the need to use such tactics are.
If all you are going to point to is Dappers misdemeanours then I'm going to point to your own.
I think it's probably fair to say that if I or anyone in TUP was going to cheat we would at least do it properly and make sure I won -
https://www.erepublik.com/en/main/presidential-elections/29/1473058800
https://www.erepublik.com/en/main/presidential-elections/29/1478329200
In addition if there is any truth at all to these allegation then I must be out of the loop.
The allegations of votes being removed and accounts being banned during the election? I witnessed the change in numbers myself throughout the day. Others did too. People in the other mongress thread were reporting accounts as they came online and whoosh, banned and the election is down a vote.
yet mysteriously these removed votes did not show up on the graphs like they did in other countries
You'll have to provide me with more details, a quick scan through that german erep tool thing came up withing nothing and I really don't care enough to spend my time searching every country and every election to prove something that I have already seen.
I mean it could of been my fone. It hates eRep for some reason, it won't let me vote, it won't let me read articles, takes about 3 attempts to post a message or vote a comment. Half the time it wont even load up the comments and forget trying to switch feeds. But if it is my fone playing silly buggers, then that means Dapper and BigAnt were able to somehow find a boot load of UKRP related players from way before either of em played the game, that had been banned for multi's and then portrayed them as recently banned.
I think you give em too much credit, it's far more likely and well within their skill set to sit online all day refreshing pages and reporting players.
Well there's one group that's permanently opposition to everything and is generally an actual problem in that members of it have treasury robbed before and imported serbs to rig votes
Any other disagreements between the rest of eUK are just banter, though half the time they don't see it as such
Why was it OK for the almost permanent ruling class to rob the treasury but when the opposition does it there is a media frenzy?
According to error theory both are totally acceptable
and they said I was power mad.
See eUK the country is run by a select club and YOU aren't in that club. You are told who to vote for and when to vote them. So do as you're told.
Wayne, Hats off for honesty and clarity. Would honestly say seeing you as CP again would be a very good thing for us.
You owe me a full blown dicktaker medal... until that debt it is paid, I care not for your opinion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ_eBTkB-rs
seems apt atm
and a cheat, scammer and thief.
Wasn't all bout willy being elected. It was about apples being impeached and willy being a dick
Perhaps if Apples hadn't been a dick in the first place, he wouldn't have been impeached
What exactly did he do?
ruffled the wrong feathers. does anyone have to do anything in this game to receive the ire of the public?
Intentionally dividing Congress. Instigating the "republic". Trying to force a united UK/Belgium without discussion. Sacking Chaz. And probably more that I haven't been privy to. That's only what I can think of off the top of my head.
Not saying Wily was any better (in fact he was considerably worse once he discovered shiny buttons), but by the time of the third impeachment vote it became obvious that enough was enough.
SO he created more activity than seen in a long time?
I supposed you could claim that, but wasn't your side trying to pin the blame on others? Now you want to take all the credit...
Both of which only happened because Lemon party cheated to get into Congress
Which happened after Applefag was a cock. Which was first, chicken or the egg?
the crippling existential dread
alliance politics are headed by a cock and a wanker this month...?
Had to lol at that one.
Also me refusing to acknowledge Willys authority isn't me requesting foreign aid. Just sayin
No, but it's using your position in the alliance to hamper your political foes. It's the same tactics Keers used to use. Only those acceptable will be accepted...
Had Willy won, I would have expected you to treat him with the same contempt as you do for every other CP.
AND I would have.
However I disagree strongly with the the way in which he was appointed CP. particularly with the removal of a lot of certain party members since congress
and people strongly disagreed with Apples, enough of them to impeach him so we ended up with Willy as CP. Dapper on his own didn't have the numbers, Applepleb f*cked up.
So are you telling me that you would have both ignored him, not recognised his CPship and treated him like any other CP of a country in the alliance you 'lead'?
We should join PEACE. Call Scrabman and let's organize something. Watch out for Zoli though. Those eHungarians are up to their old tricks
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