Petition against political madness
Zeeuwsmeisje
All offended by what I just said? Good, now listen. Either it being politically motivated or not - in every community you will find people upset you. And as evil as ‘they’ (or we) may be, and as much as you tell yourself you are a victim of circumstances, you are not. You choose to gang up with people who confirm you that ‘they’ (or we) are wrong, and that ‘they’ (or we) need to be stopped.
Stop ‘them’ (or us)? You can’t. Your mind won’t let you. From a negative thought, you will simply empower that which you blame. Basically, because our mind is not able to think negative. While focusing on what we don’t want, we hold on to the possible reality - one step from making it actually happen. Also keep in mind, that the things we focus on tend to grow. Negative things first of all.
So better stop yourself. Stop this negativism. If you don´t see yourself as part of the problem, you cannot be part of the solution. If you insist on playing the innocent victim and keep blaming the others: the price of innocence is impotence. Up to you.
With me on this one? Sign this petition and stop political madness. Let’s focus on the things we DO want. And work on it together.
Zeeuwsmeisje
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Stop political madness!
Articles like this starts political madness.. Signing a petition like this won't help I'm afraid.
Care to read beyond the first alinea, pls....
The strom was just laying down. Just some piece of rest. But I see who here wants political madness. No vote!
I am honestly sorry to see this was wasted on you...
What do you want to reach with this? More unrest?
@Kamp; what's so hard to understand? read it good!
Yes But I say something not about what the article says. I say something about why such an article is placed.
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Voted and against political madness!
Then delete this article.
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'the opposition rears its ugly head again'
Is that no madness? Is it forbidden to give my opinion about democracy?
Zeeuw meisje. Please..
obviously wasted on you too...
You want to reach peace with yelling to the opposition? Please come with a better and written out an more neutral view then this. Then you maybe can reach peace.
Everyone who disagrees with you is somehow not able to understand your article. I'm sorry, but that's just nonsensical. If using fallacies is your way of debate there is no question why there is even political turmoil in the first place.
I guess you say its wasted on all people with a different opinion on things thank you and the president....
Everybody, please either read it all, or start from the second paragraph...
The first paragraph is just an example of political madness.
In any case, voted.
Such a small amount of players, still cant fit through one door. eNL's got to deserve a price for this 😃
lets install that repelling door and see what happens? 😃
Madness is cool xD
lol, pretty clever. Unfortunately political madness keeps some players in the game.xD
voted.
coudn't you keep him in Ireland?
Voted! Let's stop this political madness.
Dirty politricks (yes, I know, it is a wordplay) are played by the opposition..
It is not a problem if players and parties have different opinions.. Why should it. Everyone has the right on his/her own opinion.
But i do not like the way we are talking now. Why to call other players 'people with an ugly head'?
Please give arguments, not this sort of strange talk. The article i wrote about this subject (only in Dutch) is not an attack on government. I just gave my opinion.
Why so overreacting?.
James, please read djirtsdew's comment, it's not what you think.
It is every time the same story, same fights and same people. I'm not even going to waste my time at this anymore.
You are a good guy Kordak. Stick with it.
yep same story... people having no regard for democracy who say something about it, and others saying to shut up.
GAME ON!
Voted, stop this political madness.
Spamming is not allowed on the forum. Just open a debate and comment as much as you want in it. Easy as that.
still don't get it? please, study it well. this all started with you coming back 🙁
Alex best to studie it for yourself. These problems began with the elections. Afterwards elgorro returned. So please don't say he did it, because he came here to restore the rest.
@reinier it's eastern over 2 days
Why don't you join the forum and do something instead of the continious whining? Or do you use 'another name' on the forum?
Correlation does not imply causation.
So what did I do wrong Alex?
It's not to late to redeem yourself, it's Easter afterall. (pet's the ape)
Why don't you join the forum and do something instead of the continious whining? Or do you use 'another name' on the forum?
I think it is ironic that when people complain about selling out democracy for 5 gold is not ok. I think the "political madness" is mainly from the GPN camp. People have the right to be pissed when the government sold Dutch democracy so cheaply. Now the same sell outs are petitioning to people to stop complaining about the mistakes of the government. I is indeed ironic. If you really want to end the madness, I think you guys really need to look at yourself in the mirror. For a huge part of the madness is self inflicted by this government. Your little petition here will not heal things but is likely to create more problems.
If anything is being attacked in the article it is the action of the forum admins (DemNL/I&W) to shut down the mass pm function, after broersje (DemNL) started a mass pm thread called 'petition for political freedom' in reaction to Weekstroms (VVN) article. GPN was not even involved, except for the fact that (like many other people from all parties) Van Spijck shouted it few times.
Next, there is one other thing very much under attack here: thinking in camps, like you just proved to do in your comment. That is the festering wound in our political arena. You know, festering wounds should not be covered up. They should be opened up and cleaned in order to heal.
And for the rest: isn't this whole article an invitation to all to look into the mirror?
To be fair, your husband vS is always thinking of sides and camps. Months of bragging that he killed of I&W as a power in eNL and bashing old I&W members like Auggy, Garmr, and Luuklag. So please do not lecture me on how you are a paragon of peace and thinking outside of political sides. I was quiet on IRC and other place for months but to see your gov to tell people not to vote for I&W with state resources is too much for me to handle. Please do not lecture about camps for I think you should look at the mirror first before you tell other people to do so.
I will not hide that I love I&W and my heart is with it. I will not hide that I think Auggy, Garmr, and Luuklag are great people. I am proud of them and I&W. People will think in camps to some degree. But to say this is all I&W and DEMNL's fault while you have vS trying to kill of I&W for months and then brag in my face, your side is far from neutral.
So imo, you did not look at the mirror. Your husband did not look at the mirror. So you can continue business as normal to "the promise land" whatever that is (vS's words) but I really do not see your self reflection. You tell others to do it but until vS does it, there is no point for any self reflection. If vS continues to hate I&W, how can there be unity in eNL like we all want?
You never cease to amaze me, Konrad. Besides the fact it is of no ones business what relations people have, nor I nor vS could care less about I&W, no one is bashing anyone, and most of all not bragging. You are a funny but weird dude.
Well I am not the one who goes and brags and have schadenfreuden with other people. So bragging about it ans praising the decline of I&W is the way to show you do not care then I think you refuse to look at the mirror. Trash talking in private queries about Auggy is a crook and Luuklag is a closeted gay person etc and teasing him because his signature has the color pink is not bashing I&W and its members then I do not know what is. You can point fingers all you want. I am glad you got a chuckle but in the end, you are not interested in cooperation or peace. As long as vS is in power, that is what you want. Make lame excuses for him for 5 gold.
As to the relationship thing, you and vS shared that detail on IRC to the public. So once again a double standard. It is ok for you to say it but not for others.
I know I have my bias and I admit them as I did above. But if you are unwilling to admit to your bias and vS's hatred for I&W and others who do not agree or see things his views, then all of this "peace" talks is pointless. But base on your reply to my comment, you will not look at yourself in the mirror. You have RL reasons to defend vS and no one can blame you for that. But an objective and neutral personal you are not, and without a true and objective self reflection of who you and vS are, then there is no point to waste time of talks of cooperation as you yourself are not really interested in it.
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Sorry once again you lost me...
'Iedereen is gek behalve wij'
You're very wrong here Konrad. There's no hate in me for I&W. You're just twisting and turning my words.
Really? I still have some logs that prove you do : P
from the time you where in gov, and we talked about the great hyst annd qwho did it? I remember that, also know those talks where confidential😁