[Serious Discussion] Dictatorship Pros
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Literally tens of people in eUK are skipping the hard task of organising citizens to throw out our foreign Dictators and moving right into the argument of what to do after our glorious but yet to be planned victory!
A small handful of very vocal players are pushing for us to have a Dictatorship led by eUK players. If you are missing exactly how this works take a look at my last article, otherwise let's move on and look at what exactly they are saying and if they are right or not:
#1 It takes two battles instead of one battle to take over eUK.
I'll let our last Dictator from when we tried this last month, Wayne, answer this one:
After a month you get a DOUBLE DAMAGE bonus and it only gets worse, so there is no point in pretending that this second battle is a defense. Also any damage the enemy does is likely going to be cancelled out with eUK players' damage, so we are poorer by the same amount.
#2 It costs 400,000 GBP instead of 200,000 GBP to take over eUK.
When we are talking about enemy groups paying 200,000 GBP to take us over plus paying to tank against AN ENTIRE COUNTRY, we are facing very rich players. They won't be saving up for this, they'll have a source of real life cash or a whole country behind them as all big tanks do.
So while 200,000 GBP may cost YOU £150 to pay for, they are going to have either big referral bonuses, country tax money or a fantastic job/family wealth in real life. Is this really going to be an issue for them? Oh and setting up Dictator cost US 200,000 GBP too, so we are poorer by the same amount.
I'm not even going into eUKers being "butthurt", to use Wayne's technical definition, making us pay more chunks of 200,000 GBP to get rid of unpopular dictators. This happened as recently as last month, it's going to cost us a stupid amount of money to keep this up.
Oh and what happens if we are attacked after someone else, like an eUK player, payed to win the first battle? Then they get to attack us without paying the extra 200,000 GBP, WHICH IS WHAT JUST HAPPENED!
#3 If we lose the first battle we have 3 days to get ready for the second battle.
3 days to make sure that every eUK MU is ready to join in, that the battle is at a good time for us, to get allies and mercenaries in to help and generally get more prepared. This actually sounds quite good.
The thing is, will doing all of that have an effect and is 3 days enough? Well there is a way to prove this. We were taken over about 5 days ago now, so we have our preparation time happening right now, we are we not free yet? Because it isn't enough time.
#4 The above points together will make us look like a hard target so that MTO groups will look for easier targets even if they could actually beat us.
A group in it for a laugh may just pick on the weakest country, but are we really the weakest out there? There are much smaller countries with hundreds of players not in Dictatorship right now.
A group specifically wanting to target the eUK for some reason, either because of real life hate or in game tactics, will go for us no matter what.
I'm not convinced.
So in conclusion a eUK Dictatorship will:
#1 Make an easy extra battle for the enemy to easily destroy, even BigAnt could tackle one of these last month.
#2 Make an extra 200,000 GBP barrier for the enemy to pay for if they have bad timing, but even more for us to keep it up as we are already discussing paying our second lot of 200,000 GBP.
#3 Make the enemy wait an extra 10 days to take us over, giving us time to prepare ourselves and allies. Could actually be worth it, it'll be proven to be a good benefit if we are freed next week!
#4 Make us look harder to take over when we already don't look like the weakest target out there because of our average population.
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You may have noticed, but we have no democracy, we have no money to hide, so we can't spend anything on improving players. By the time strength makes a difference we'll be in a new decade. No matter how much you try to 'improve' strength, you'll still be treading water with most of eReps population, because guess what? Everyone else is 'improving' strength at the same rate of 90 a day...
Even for you Goku, this is lame. Most others countries seem to manage to have worked out a way to deal with it.
That is why there are 4 divisions.
You know I was banging on about improving our players half a decade ago back in 2009, imagine if we took the long term view back then.
At some point we have to stop thinking short term and stop being shit.
I'm sure you wasn't the first person banging on about improving players and in 2009, if my wiki knowledge of the past is correct, strength and the war module was very different.
I'm very much a fan of practice what you preach. Looking at your account, you haven't done a very good job of it. It's no good looking at the past and wishing something had been done, that won't solve the problems now.
How do we go about finally getting our players at least treading water with the big mean players in each division? Last time I looked eUK as a community have nothing.
I like that you flame me for having "a bad account" and flame me for not taking into account major game changes in the same breath.
I was only able to strength train starting in 2012 because they changed how it worked, just like you did! It was also far easier to gain exp back then from companies, thats why you see really weak lv100 players.
well. he's only after 5g congress medal, that's why he will never agree with being under dictakership although it gives us 80% safe from being take over.
he thinks that we are serbia and we have a lot of money to feck off any coup attempts.
I have a referral gold fortune (which I've even given away twice), I got 5g for free just yesterday.
You can always ask nicely for the dictatorship role 🙂
And honestly if i will see a united uk community i think my job was done here and i can leave knowing atleast in the future this will not happen 🙂
It's all a secret plan to unite us? Lovley 😃
Secret ? Nah but if this results in a united community i think you are the real winners 🙂
Yes we get our fun but in the long run e uk will profit more if you finally get united and stop this political bs , that got you in the first place weak .
You're insane if you think you'll ever unite the eUK community.
Seriously, it's never going to happen.
> "if i will see a united uk community"
LOL! That will happen the day after hell freezes over. We like like being disunited - it's a fundamental part of being eBritish 🙂
Letting them come and take is over is your plan? Have you seen how we've been screwed over under the dictatorship and this dictator has been nice (as dictators go)
Absolute load of bollocks
My point is that it's going to happen no matter what we do.
We can either be bankrupt from keeping spending 200,000 GBP on a new Dictator every few months, with invaders coming ANYWAY during the gap, or have stronger better funded players ready for them.
or you can keep your dictatorship with dictators changeing as new cp election goes,and w8 to be liberated by some foregin force and then beat them to a coup button.....
i mean thats how you can save 200k on revolution
Been nice?
What planet are you on, mate? eUK has lost every MPP except two and in 10 days we'll have none. All our gold has been transferred to currency and is not in the org it was sent to and to top it off, we are being wiped (due to having no MPP support). I hate to see what you think a d*ckhead dictator would do!
raise taxes sign troll mpps ohhhh i can think of many ways how you can be a d*ckhead dictator
Well done guys.
You have already been a d*ckhead dictator freegigi, they are just extra options that you happen to have in your bag of d*ckhead tricks!
You can also only sign MPP's if we have cash in the treasury. Not to mention, troll MPP's are pretty pointless seeing as the country on the receiving end will just deny them. Sad day when a player with no congress has to tell a 3 times CP basic mechanics.
Make sure that you flame him and piss him off! Awesome work.
Don't worry Goku. Unlike you FreeGigi doesn't get upset over a little troll
So, instead we should be praising him and kissing his rear end?
The damage has already been done, Goku. What else does he have to beat us with?
Look no farther than Canada to see that a Dictator with the support of his people can be a viable defence.
All of you will never agree on one perfect leader so do the next best thing and place someone in power who will not rip you off and regardless if you hate them. Atleast you can trust them to not take advantage of you.
Ser Farts has spent so much on your nation in past wars i'm actually surprised you haven't placed him in the role already.
Agreed - Ser Farts has done a huge amount for the eUK over the past six months and would make a fine constitutional monarch
coz UK.
He doesn't want the job
The question on my mind is, upon a revolution starting, will Goku be joining in or will he be sitting on the sidelines watching and hoping the revolution will fail to try and win a debate?
Oh I'll be joining in. I'm not a spite machine like some people!
Which people?
Guys have you considerd the option to buy Mek Titanium?
It can save you time,cash and damage,as the queen gigi said we are here for fun,not to be your eternal slave masters bla bla bla
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you 2 m8
when you pull your head out of the place where the sun doesnt shine,then i might acctualy give a F
lol. such butthurt. maybe I will give a trophy to you for crying too much to plato.
maybe you should stop trying to look smart,cause your actions shows otherwise
maybe you should feck off from UK and dissolve your MU. cause your actions shows otherwise.
lol again trying to look smart and fail,fail,fail
go cry for plato and use your visa.
we will bring fun to you soon.
Luke Braferd is literally our least intelligent player, hopefully he grows up into someone better as he gets older.
lol. 200k cc to defend...
What you're ignoring is in the battle to fight against Wayne the eUK was in effect fighting against himself, we didn't have all our MUs on the dictatorship side like we most likely would have in a revolution started by forigs.
They'd probably still win, yeah, determination f*cks the job completely, but it would make it harder than you're making out.
DOUBLE DAMAGE.
We literally have to spend double or more to keep up.
Read the part where I said "They'd probably still win"
However the point is using Wayne's dictatorship as an example of what would happen if forigs tried to do a revolution isn't really legit as in Wayne's dictatorship the circumstances were different than what they would be under the proposed protective dictatorship.
I don't understand why you are posting if you agree that we would lose.
They'd have to put extra effort in, use more resources against a more united euk than the anti wayne lot did, seeing as anti wayne lot was half the euk.
Basically I think that you using wayne's dictatorship as a concrete example of what would happen in a revolution started up by forigs is ridiculous.
Use logic man.
If they are putting extra resources in, it implies they are overcoming something we did. They have to put in half the resources we do to win because of the bonus.
It'll drain US, not THEM!
By the way Goku the wait time after a successful COUP is 3 days, after a successful REVOLUTION its 10.
I would go into detail about the reasons why we haven't started one, but I'm not Max Blue and I don't give stuff away in public.
You seem very set against this Goku so I'm not going to go over the same arguments with you as you've clearly decided that you won't listen to reason; but your plan literally boils down to us being repeatedly MTO'd by whichever forig group fancys us (and us spending way more than 200k in COs fighting against it)
From what I gather, his idea is to sit around and wait for determination to gather pace and then spend 200k to have democracy again. So that it then costs 200k and one battle to be MTO'd. Then we rinse and repeat until no one in eUK has any cash left to fight!
Yeah I'm outlining why the Dictator plan doesn't work, not really proposing my own plan. I've deleted that comment since is isn't the purpose of this article. It was written as a comment for a reason.
Everyone is swooping in to attack my first comment and totally ignoring the content of the article, because they don't want a discussion they want to win any argument on the internet they can.
When I produce a second article on a topic, taking into account the comments of the previous one, also admitting that one of the points raised is good, you bet I'm listening to reason.
Regardless of what my idea is, it doesn't make your idea better than mine because mine is also bad.
Also the reason why I list 10 days is because I listed 3 days in my previous article and some arsehole phrased a comment like he was correcting me and said it was 10 days.
Oh that was you. You are intentionally spreading false information about this eh?