♠ Seriously!?
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My issues with the Hungarian administration, let me try
to make it clear.
While I appriciate being able to live under the Ukrainian
flag here on eRepublik, and am happy Hungray returned
Ukrainian regions - the truth is:
The only reason the eUkraine exists is to protect
Hungary from Romania and carry out other Hungarian
operations. So listen HungarianTOpeople, you cant
honestly try to deny it is not a puppet, if the president
takes orders from someone else as does most of the
congress!
I recommend that administration starts to take the
Ukrainian people that Ukraine currently has seriously!
Acknowledge what we have to say regardless of
how many of us there are right now.
If you want to act/pretend like you are really interested
in Ukraine, I highly suggest you (congress members
and active residents) discuss with everyone here
http://s1.zetaboards.com/eUkraine (So far Falban and
Qwer are the only ones I've seen there - unless those
are the only people that actually run the country...)
If you want people to have any respect for you whatsoever
you must reach out to the people and let them know what
you are doing and why. The forums are something I setup
for free communication of what goes on in Ukraine, so you
dont have to worry about eRep admins
Dont pass laws that are going to screw over the people
living in Ukraine... why would you do that? Here is what
Falban said about the new minimum wage:
"The purpose of the new citizen fee is to avoid the
minimum wage salary + tax free donation tax evasion
system. It also helps the government to find the newbies,
and support them for the very first days. We've got
enough companies for newbies."
The 5 UAH minimum wage and the government
is selling 1 UAH at .03ish gold is something many small
business owners can not afford! And if our businesses
go bankrupt, you need to bail them out because its the
government's fault.
Right now the only thing that makes any sense to say
is what the eRep admin (perhaps sarcastically) says:
"Thanks for the support!"
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Viira, however it's true most the congress takes orders from someone else, I hope you know I'm on your side, I didn't get any help from Hungary so I own her nothing.
xwolf - you may owe Hungary nothing but saying you are on someone's side and taking direct action to prove you are on their side are two different things. You told me in IRC yesterday that I am not Ukranian because I was born in America (even though my parents were born in Ukraine as was my wife and son) well then how can you be anything but Hungarian?
The only thing that matters here are the actions one takes. eUkrainians here don't care whether anyone here is Hungarian or Romanian or Singaporian or whatever. All we want is to build a strong viable nation. Everytime we speak out for our rights we are reminded that they were given to us by someone and can just as easily be taken away. And then the people who make these statements say that they are our friends and only want to help us... how would that sound to you if someone directed those statements towards you? That is the main point we are trying to make.
@ Xwolf - It seems the instant you tried to oppose a decision of the president/administration, they basically wanted nothing to do with you.
The same can be said for any one of the Hungarian congress members that were elected into office. If you go against what Hungary has planned for Ukraine - your services will no longer be needed. You have no say or purpose other then seat -place- holders.
Yea, but I don't even say im ukrainian. I was born, and I live in Hungary IRL. In game I was born in Hungary but I have my frineds in Ukraine. I never said Hungary can take your freedom, or your rgihts. If they gave it, no nation will let it go. You fought for the freedom, you deserve it, I totally don't understand why we can't just get Irov to the presidental seat or AJ Tyler, or Alexroman2 they would be perfect. I only had to accept the fact, we can not yet do this. I hope the time will be soon when this can happen.
Just want everyone to know I in no way want to offend anyone by my statements, I'm simply pointing out the facts.
I have nothing but respect for those of you who are not afraid to stand up against take overs. I value your efforts and I encourage everyone to think freely people!
Even you Hungarians in Ukraine's congress: You hold great power with your votes! Use it wisely and you will get the respect you seek!
Viira I think u readed my article bout the war with russia, thats when I lost my Ministerium, I stood up. I didn't need them anymore, but I got re elected, if you do the right thing, you won't be needing the Hungarian government.
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Xwolf: I beleive you. And what can we achieve with it? 😃
Ukrainian citizen to Ukrainian President!
Celtis well, if we could get more ppl who thinks like i do then we would have the power finaly.
only i woudl ask from you is patience and understanding. You can visit our chat too as I will do that on your forum.
ABout quick actions I lived in many countries because I think this game can provide widest liberty for us to live and create something all around the world. And what i want to share if anything happens in this game faster than we could recognize that shows external pressures. Yes, it can solve strange situations, paranoia etc.. but you can see if Hungary should be destroy or use Ukraine like apuppets we would be not here we would not propose such laws.
You say we should join to your forums. Yes you are right and you shouild do this also. Except Danylo I did not seee anybody in our chatroom. And unfortunately he left it soon...
I think we are human. People who wants to reach common goals. We need cooperative actions and articles instead of complaining.
Go Ukraine! 🙂
I concur.
We need a Ukrainian to be Ukrainian President.
All we hear is that we need to get more RL Ukrainians involved but what do we have that would really attract them? With our Government screwing us over, stealing from its people and making life hard it is hardly an ideal situation.
The 5 UAH minimum wage and the government
is selling 1 UAH at .03ish gold is something many small
business owners can not afford! And if our businesses
go bankrupt, you need to bail them out because its the
government's fault.
thats's right - i need to close my grain firm... 🙁
its sad...
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me, bence fadgyas, personally has no contact to the hungarian government. i am not travelled or elected by the hungarian govenrment. i cam e here because there was the opportunity to build up a new country!
there are 2 important things waiting for all of us!
1. - stabilise ukraine (teriitorially and economicly) - the biggest work will be carried out by Falban and his fellows - simply because he has the potential - romania is just declaring war on ukraine!!!
2. - we need to create a ukrainian baby boom - that is up to all IRL ukrainians - simply cuz they have the potential.
Anything else doesnt really matter.
I support any act and person who follows any of the 2 goals.
And reverse.
well...
I don't understand this movement at all...
first: every fcking candidate have been elected... there were no competition.
anybody here could have ran for congress, you didn't. why?
eUkraine has no economy, no population and no power.
eRomanians are coming http://www.erepublik.com/en/Romania/law/7275" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/Romania/law/[..]7275
and your problem is the eHungarians....
Jenő: you're right. but still, we could have chosen a better style...
Fadgyas Bence
absolutely
and I'm not a big fan of the current eHungarian administration, so this "vassal/puppet" thing could be true for all I know.
But this "you didn't helped us out of true love" rhetoric is like the one I'v heard in eGermany 1.5 month ago... It turned out that eSweden isn't that tender either 🙂
Ukrainians have every right to rule their own country!
I just can't see how the alienation of the eHungarians serves this goal...
ok, I have looked into this whole mess a little bit deeper, and I have to admit that the communication and cooperation were rather poor on the Hungarian side... still this election was a joke, I don't understand that why were that few Ukrainian candidates...
there was NO competition at all and this is very sad.
and I still thinks that this accusing and blaming others attitude will not help...
@Prizma - You are right about that, we at UU Party should have run more candidates during the election, but at the time, we were getting new regions last minute and moving everyone around on time was on of the issues, along with worrying about if we even get anyone in at all.
I agree. Those who propose laws in the Congress never respond to my inquiries... If the eHungarian government is truly for eUkraine your actions should be for the benefit of eUkrainians. Please show that.
@Prizma - let me try this again because you seem to have difficulty grasping this most simplest of concepts. If you read any of our articles we keep telling you that we would like to be your friends and that we appreciate getting our territories back. We are not trying to alienate you, you by your actions are trying to alienate the Ukranian Ukrainians who are playing this game.
When you and people like Benjamin keep telling us that we should shut up and accept our fate and others say trust us yet discuss nothing with us about our country you are the ones doing the alienating not us.
And why should there have been more Ukrainian candidates in the election???? That would have been a stupid tactic since it would have divided the Ukrainian vote even more!
@Noel - I'm sorry I felt after only about an hour but I am not 16 years old and not on vacation from school where I can spend 12 hours a day in a chat room. Not saying that you guys are and not trying to insult anyone just stating a fact.
So after a lot of declaration: I came here for my own, just because I saw fantasy in eUkraine. I saw, that here could be a strong foundation for a greater country.
As a congressmember, I try to represent the Wish of the citizens, like Jeno and Bence.
cheat at home, cheat in the world!!!
@Danylo Halytskyj:
well, I guess my point with the more Ukrainian candidates was that more candidates = more congress seats... since in this election literary no votes were needed.
I'm a Hungarian player, I know Falban, and I have friends amongst the eUkrainian congressmen, but I'm not eHungarian, I'm the MoFA of eMalaysia.
We have many problems in eMalaysia as well, but the communication between the active citizens and the government is not among them.
I have some experience in this kind of affairs, and in my opinion the communication of the congress and the president towards the public is rather poor, seams to be unorganized and half-baked.
Please remind me where have I told you to shut up!
Telling someone that he was unable to grasp the meaning of something and right after that crediting him with somebody else's opinion... well its a strange version of correctness 🙂
I think you are right when you speak up, and you have every right to not approve a tax policy which is killing your business.
You have every right to talk about oppression, slavery, puppets, etc. also off course.
My only point I guess: I can't see how will this tone do you any good.
I don't think you have to lick boots or any other stupid thing like that, so please don't get me wrong.
You have been caught in the middle in this somehow pervert and violent 'love struggle' of this two powerfully countries. Its a fckd up situation, I know. Its sucks to sit on a hotspot.
Its sucks that you have a low priority on both power's list.
So good luck, I wish you strong nerves and cool head 🙂
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