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Welcome Dictatorship

Day 2,658, 06:57 • Published in Greece Greece

• by mentoris

Good Evening to every fellow citizen.

Today we experienced in e-Greece a coup (dictatorship), using the new rules or eRep.

Many people already know that there is a long time conflict of interest in eGreece.
In particular, some of eGreece military elite (tanks) had a different opinion on how governments handled several issues, such as the alliance issue.
There have been some undemocratic issues from both sides, including issues on the exercise of the government authority which sometimes was not so democratic and issue on the MUs obedience to governments decisions (MUs practically enforcing their own policy on national matters by every mean they had, e.g. battles etc).

However, with democratic elections (at least far more democratic that dictatorship) these issues were in general resolved as the public opinion remained in favor and in line with the existing government policies (most times). However, the opposition had a significant share in the election results and this should be respected up to a point.

I do not aim in being sentimental and mentioning "civil war" matters, which is a disgrace for our community and its citizens. Moreover, I am not going to start a debate whether what is more important MUs or Governments (Military or Politics).
I believe that each part has its own role and purpose in the game. All these issues should be resolved democratically (and by this I do not mean only elections but the whole mind set). Of course the end goal is the prosperity of the community and its citizens, regardless Dictatorship or not.

So with this article I would like to welcome the new regime in eGreece.
I would like to make an open call for support against the dictatorship and to support of the establishment of democracy once again (this time with more respect).
Feel free to express your opinion and ideas on how to do it.

I will do some brainstorming on this some ideas are:
- Start a public debate on dictatorship. After all, this is a Game and dictators are truly just another player/citizen. Maybe with a debate all this situation can me resolved and democracy (on mutually respected basis) can be restored.
- Elect a democratic government (anti-dictatorship) to have at least a back-up government in case it is needed (gets power again).
- Participate in a major hold from the game. This will include stop working and maybe other cases (even battles). In that case the dictator will be governing a country that is actually not functioning. However, I believe that this scenario should be examined for its consequences and effectiveness with respect to its purpose.

As a president of G.A.P. I would like to announce that we change our support for the upcoming (meaningless?) election to one of the major (top 5) candidates. I am selecting to support a democracy supporter. Moreover, I am making an open call for debate on the dictatorship issue.

Viva la Revolution.

Edit: Συγνώμη που το κείμενο είναι στα άγγλικά, αλλα νομίζω οτι θίγω ένα θέμα που έχει και μια διεθνή διάσταση.

Και τέλος ένα μήνυμα προς τους δικτάτορες. Αυτή την φορά δεν υπάρχει δικαιολογία. Την τελευταία μέρα ακούστηκαν για γράφτηκαν διάφορα. Πλέον σαν δικτάτορες και σαν υποστηρικτές της δικτατορίας (ακόμα και αν μετέχουν σε δημοκρατικές διαδικασίες) θα βρεθούν απέναντι σε ότι έχουν δηλώσει κατα καιρούς και θα κριθούν σαν πολίτες αλλά και σαν ηγέτες. Και δεν μιλάω για το πραξικόπημα, μιλάω για τις πράξεις και τις ενέργειες που θα γίνουν. Και πλέον όλα "καταγράφονται" τουλάχιστον στην μνήμη και δεν θα μπορεί να υπάρξει αμφισβήτηση. Οπότε αν φανείτε κατώτεροι των περιστάσεων ή "ιδιώτες¨ (σε σχέση με τα κοινά) όπως αρκετοί πιστεύουν θα έχετε και τις ανάλογες συνέπειες. Ρόδα είναι...

ΝΙ

Comments

Black Sonia Day 2,658, 07:12

big V

sotirakis Day 2,658, 07:20

vtd

SotirisA Day 2,658, 07:23

Voted

mentoris Day 2,658, 07:35

Welcome Dictatorship:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/welcome-dictatorship-2502144/1/20

Zdlemmy Day 2,658, 07:47

there is more democracy in this fights then in election...elections you can win with boots, here is all on batterfield and u saw much more greece players on dictator side then Greece gov side...for me that is enough

mentoris Day 2,658, 08:44

Elections are by nature democratic. The issue that you mention can be treated if there is interest. However bots are a general problem of the game.
Fights are not democratic as they do not show how many greek players support the dictator. This is because a) the nature of dictator module b) using money to achieve damage c) Stronger citizens having a "bigger" share.

What you propose may stand only a) if there is some normalization of the damage towards to equality b) you believe that military is the most important thing and should exercise authority.

There is no perfect solution. However, you mention a problem with democratic procedures. The solution is to try FIX the problem and not to move to something else without examining each case.
Worst case is that both approaches are no democratic (if we decide on what we mean democratic). Therefore, as I say in my post we should move toward a more democratic solution.

mentoris Day 2,658, 08:52

Some minor addition: Everyone can make bots (as I said it is a general issue) and try to bypass the security and vote.
But this counts for both sides (dictators and democrats). However, think that if a minoring is willing to have power and creates bots it is quite similar to dictatorship.

Therefore, may I ask how people wanting to have power (such as Dictators) they can also create bots for the elections. But this worst case of "democracy" is the standard case of dictatorship.

Zdlemmy Day 2,658, 09:18

if you was online when attack starts and most of the time on battle there was 50 percent more Greece CS players on dictator side....i don t speak about dmg, just count ppl from one and another side... and bots can t fight there so it s logic conclusion that there was more greece players for this...just go on new war site and look at the battle map. if u can count u will know

mentoris Day 2,658, 10:07

May I ask how exactly bots cannot fight? (since you count people) I agree that there are not scripts publicly available, but still bots can fight (with manual labor). First of all I do not think that it is the easiest thing to count the greek players in a battle. Then dictatorships have the advantage of "surprise" you expect that the dictator side is more organized. Lastly, in dictator mode damage counts, and I have not seen any provable result about "number of citizens".

Still it is only a temporary measure (taking into account that scripts do not work), otherwise it has the same problems and even bigger than elections. Therefore, still I do not think it is an alternative..

mentoris Day 2,658, 10:09

Sorry for the extra reply. Another thing that came to my mind. Assuming that you are not prepared to fight for democracy (for numerous reasons) and you make the strategic move not to fight (e.g. keeping resources for a revolution) then how do you still count players? (Btw, I do not think that battlefield is representative of the number of players)

DimAth Day 2,658, 09:23

And in battles u can buy damage with rl money and use boots to fight etc etc

it's tragic what u've written 😃

Zdlemmy Day 2,658, 09:32

not in this battles, becouse there is still no script for fighting in dictator war....also i remove all foreign CS,only greece CS...so go on baterfield and count....

DimAth Day 2,658, 10:27

silence for rl money 😃

Black Sonia Day 2,658, 22:08

Ζdlemmy, most of the Greeks didn't fight in that battle, because they are disgusted by this situation .
We chose to fight in the battle with FYROM , the one YOU Croats ,along with some of our ''dictators'' had initiate in order to keep us busy , during the coop.
Learn your lesson well , before you interfere in our politics.

Zdlemmy Day 2,658, 22:48

15 Greece MU support this, and there was lot of players in each...that is not something you can ignore... elections in any country can be won by the boots sothis was only alternative for real democracy...

Black Sonia Day 2,658, 23:07

you're jumping into conclusions again
only 5-6 mu , from a total of 15 that had supported the coop, are large units
and the majority of them are in favor of one single political party in eGreece.
all of this time, you were intentionally led to the idea , that only the political party GIP had multies and could control election results but the truth is that Greek Terrorists also used , in several occasions, multiple accounts during elections. You were manipulated.
So, once again...stay out of this, we don't need any liberators, at least not foreigners.