Time To Save The eUK!
Day 2,989, 13:02
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by HebronGazelle
So Dapper (Harry) posted an article recently about how we could change the current political system of the eUK as the current one has left Congress without anything to do in the past 3 weeks. We need to try something as the eUK is dying off and an inactive Congress does not help this. Both the article and the comments have some interesting points so I thought I'd do an article and talk about them.
One Role/Department Per Party
Issues around this involve which parties get which ministries, how many parties will be involved and what is the point of country president elections if the CP won't have any power (or very little) under this system.
This system, as I imagine it, would involve having an elected CP and his chosen vCPs as basically a management group responsible for making sure each party keep up with their responsibilities. They also work with the MoF (the only non-party ministry) to ensure each ministry gets its allocated budget and makes sure the money is not stolen, a big issue when so many people are involved. Each ministry/party would not get direct access to the funds but instead the MoF and CP would make sure it is only spent when needed.
As for which parties are involved, I would say that the number of ministries is determined by the CP at the start of their term. So for example the CP could choose to have Ministry of Home Affairs, Defence, Education, Foreign Affairs, Health, Entertainment, Legislation/Congress Affairs. There would be a minimum of three ministries (maximum is however many parties their are) and the top parties get to have their ministries for the month. In the example, 7 ministries were chosen so the top 7 parties will be involved. The CP will declare the ministries before the election or else the previous ministries will roll over to the next month.
The ministries are allocated by the PPs choosing the ministry their party will be in charge of. The party of the CP chooses first, the top party chooses second, second party chooses third and so on. PPs can talk beforehand if they want to leave a ministry for a certain party, for example if everybody thought ESO should have the MoHA they will all leave it until the ESO PP can choose that ministry.
Total Democracy
This was in Rory's manifesto I believe (or whoever ran for CP, I can't be bothered to check/remember). Total democracy involves having a referendum for each vote that Congress would usually have. Congress has had 8-9 votes this term, all happening in the first two weeks of the term. If this could be spread out across the whole term it would be very manageable, so that is not a problem.
Voting would work the same as a Congress vote, so there is no problem with the process of this. An article can be published for people to vote on instead of the gdoc method used by Congress. All voting will be public (through comments obviously) so there can be no cheating.
Whether we move to this system could be done by a referendum (clever, huh?). However I believe that this referendum should only take place under the condition that if it does not get more than 30 votes (a high average for Congress votes with 40 members) the result will be an automatic 'No' to moving to this system, there is no point moving to a system which sees even less participation.
National MU
The country right now is pretty poor (in comparison to other countries, just look at COs being set) so I can not see the government buying lots of Q7 factories to fund it. This would require input form a few rich members of the eUK. A national MU would just be a merger of the eUK's main 5-6 MUs so that all players are in one group for better coordination. As the eUK population slowly dies it is pointless having dozens of groups of 10-20 players all spread out as it makes coordination harder. A single national MU could consist of possibly 300 players (eUK population is 800 although some are inactive, others might not want to move). Current MU commanders could all have a meeting, find out what each MU does and combine the good ideas for the main MU. The commander of the MU could be the Minister of Defence (for easy order setting) each month, or if the previous party-ministry idea is adopted it could be a chosen member of the MoD party.
Other benefits include a stronger sense of community, the disbanding (hopefully) of smaller MUs to make MTOs harder, and people will stop complaining about Nifty.
I basically just gathered other people's ideas and put a bit of flesh behind them, so thanks to all the people who I stole ideas from (I hope I mentioned you in the article - let me know if not). I might do another article some other time with more ideas, and hopefully you will all discuss this in the comments.
Thanks for reading,
CheetahCurtis,
10-Time eUK Saviour
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Wrote this all out on notepad and I don't think I made a single spelling error!
It"s magnificient my dear friend Cheetah.And I can tell you this,this is very implemented method.I am supporting it entirely.
Nah mate no memes no vote
A meme a day keeps the cancer to stay
I'll add a pic for every 15 votes.
A National MU (where we merged the supply structures of all the top MUs) would be fantastic. Sadly there are too many egos involved and people wouldn't want to give up their own space. Its a shame.
The main issue with Total Democracy I see is that the vast majority of the eUK is neither active nor informed enough to make all the decisions. After the novelty wore off you would get just get the same 30-40 people voting that we do now.
I'm unsure that having each party run a ministry would produce a remotely coherent government
Stick them in a room and see what happens.
Maybe you should inform them if you see that as a problem, this could encourage more discussion and media activity.
The current government doesn't seem very good, I'm not sure how it can get worse from an outsiders perspective.
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We won't get far with pessimism, we'll just die off.
Look CC I am as in favour of reforming government as the next guy, I just want us to produce a functioning system- those are the issues that I see with those systems.
I would love a national MU to happen- but can you see Legion agreeing to fold into one? or RN? or DC? or Nifty? or FBI? The truth is I can't
From my point of view the current system isn't functioning very well and we are just seeing people become more inactive. Testing a system that gets more people involved or active can't be such a bad thing compared to what is going on now. Would a trial period of one term be enough to see whether it has had any benefits?
Dapper seems to back the national MU so that's a good way forward to getting Legion to merge. As for the other MUs, a think we stand a chance if we actually talk to them, although I see less of a chance with DC and Nifty because of the way people from those MUs play the game. Getting Legion, RN, Funky and FBI would be a pretty decent MU (4 biggest if I'm correct - haven't checked how many members MUs have for a while).
Correct, we should trial a new system. I am writing an idea up for one now.
I'd be very surprised if Legion, and indeed some other MUs, decided they would fold into an MU run by the MoD, and surrender their existing command structures. There is too much pride at stake. Dapper wants the National MU to be Legion.
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/reforming-the-uk-my-two-cents-2579387/1/20
I take offence to that, the way they play the game. I was FBI for nearly a year, and they worked very well, but I don't think they would fold into one of the other MUs easily, as well as most people who actually enjoy commanding their own MU for some reason. I'd be up for it though ;P
Call it something like "British Army" and in the description you put like "United forces of the RN, DC, etc..." so everyone can keep their avatars or whatever and MU commanders become captains of the regiments in the new MU. But is such a thing even possible? Probably not easily, people here don't even want to change MUs temporarily for tournaments.
Using an actual dictatorship was never even listed as a possibility
I don't think that gets more people involved...
have you honestly ever considered its potential without unbiased?
I'd be interested how that increases the activity
You've been in Congress. Do you feel it is an effective contributor to the prosperity of your nation?
You've been CP. Do you feel it is a desirable job where you actually get the opportunity to do what you wanted for the community?
Or is it just stale after all these years?
Imagine a leader/team unfettered to make decisions. Carry out their ambitions.
Maybe you've not encountered problems in Ireland but in the UK "Imagine a leader/team unfettered to make decisions. Carry out their ambitions." can pretty much be translated to "Image someone able to steal the treasury every other month".
Paul, most asset incidents are either from:
bad appointment- a threat we've always been exposed to
political deadlock- which dictatorship suppresses
ofc you need to choose your dictators wisely (as you do now).
my personal experiances?
congress do sod all
cp, the dictator does whatever we ask and is pretty compotent, when congress aren't active then yeah, we can achieve our goals.
but yeah, as much as we like you know would like to have all the power, but democracy ;P
we knew the ingame gov module was weak back in v1, that's why we made all that offsite shit back when there was ppl. Most of the Erep community been crying out for a fix for years.
Now we get handed this entirely new system, with a huge array of potential. What does the community do? Divide up between shunning it, try to hammer it into exactly the same thing we've been doing for years, or employing only it's worst potential.
Why does nobody treat it as an opportunity to try new things in this dusty old game? Because it's labelled dictator?
If the title was "Commander", or "Admiral" would you be able to look at it from that perspective?
RENAME IT COMMODORE AND I'LL START RUNNING THINGS IN A FLASH OF A FRENCHMAN'S JOCK STRAP
If love a new system to be honest but people revert back to what they know and then complain.
We could have any system of government we want for example and any electoral system we wanted. I don't know. People won't learn 😛
ikr, all we see are "another constitutional republic"s.
thing is: we're not big competitive political catchments. and ppls' activity comes in waves. Ideally you get the guys who are most intelligent and active in leadership while they've no rl and can give the most for the community. But congresses full of barely-actives drag the actual national activity down. Then not much else but everybody blaming everybody ever happens.
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/just-burn-it-all-down-pls-reform-deform--2579552/1/20
listed it
ur welcome
Full support.
Well, I only read the title and cba to read the entire article, but the title sounds goods at any rate.
Article is titled save the eUK, yet it did not suggest burning down congress and all democracy and installing aleks as dictator?
Worst article ever.
"We need to try something as the eUK is dying off and an inactive Congress does not help this."
It's already dead, forums and irc best examples, let them die and idk join Argentina or something
"It's already dead"
"let them die"
How can it die if it is dead? Don't contradict yourself, are you trying to be The Bible or something?
eUK is nothing compared to the ecountry it was years ago, just accept your community have failed the last year in different ways and claiming more activity from something which is doomed is not a good idea
So are you The Bible or The Doomsday Book now?
Kind of
fuck off kimi
Brush your teeth
lol
"[T]he disbanding (hopefully) of smaller MUs to make MTOs harder"
Yes. This.
Of course, it'll never happen. Too many egos with their own personal little fiefdoms. Even if it did, it'd not work for exactly the same reasons.
From Spain we're still waiting to our CP to throw NE to France...
Sorry for the retardation (of our CP. Nah he's a good guy xddd. Nevermind, sorry :c ).
National MU of course, let's do a sole party to, everyone move to BDP!
Congress members aren't participating, that's not the systems fault. That's their own.
No shit!! Really?
Be careful not to cut yourself on the edge, kiddo.
Hahahahahaha, crying to much FAP, go report more!! my comments 😃
uwot?
I don't report comments.
How many Q7 factories would a national MU need?
5
...thousand
...million
How are you going to fan a thousand or a million Q7 factories :/
No carlini, we need to fund 5 thousand million Q7 factories
I would not be in favour of a National MU - couldn't we have increased co-ordination while maintaining the independence and identity of individual MUs?