Theories and Interpretations
Patanjali
Namaste
Translated for you, with the kind help of visual vampire, to whom I thank very much.
Mean time, listen to that, if you like
In order to live in this world, people need to design a representation of it. Otherwise, they cannot understand it.
Just think of it: unless we see a map, even if of the city we live in, we have a different perception of the streets and houses we are passing by. We understand them visually, as we recall them during our walks.
Regarding this topic, an interesting case for both Europeans and Westerners would be that of Aristotle (poor Plato being acknowledged only later).
Aristotle wrote his major works around the year 364, having returned to Athens.
Him being gone, scores of other people „interpreted” what he had said/written.
Somehwat a normal consequence, in a Europe in which Moor invaders were the representatives of culture and civilization (an exceptional illustration being Isidor of Seville, The Spaniard.
Thus, he reached fame on account of some Arabic translations and only later due to transcripts of some of his works written in ancient Greek (a language with a schepsys, is it not, christo?).
A multitude of scholars attempted to express the truth in Aristotle’s writings (the medieval Avicenna, Averoes, Thomas d’Aquino or even Spinoza, who even developed a geometrical method for the demonstration of philosophical ideas, a concept later embraced by Wittgenstein).
Each was more or less influenced by the times he was living in (be they a peripathetic or a Renaissance period).
To the result that today we hold several interpretations of Aristotle’s treaties, each trying to explain what he, the prince of philosophy, was trying to tell us.
Some interpretations are very profound, explaining and envisaging the ties functioning in that Athens of 364, the egos and tensions between Plato and Aristotle (or the neoplatonicists).
In India, with the help of miles247, I have succeeded (or I think I have, after almost 2 years) in understanding the real state of difficulty of the Indian civilization (which is very similar to other civilizations’).
Alienation due to interpretation.
To understand Pantajali, it is enough to read Pantajali, neither the interpretations of his single book, nor accounts given by different historians regarding his life and times.
Similarly, approaching what we see today (various yogis that are still alive, fakirs – especially in the manner they have degenerated in Europe and the USA) is of no use, I think.
Moreover, even the field that Pantajali makes direct reference to is impossible to grasp without actual practice, without studying Shamkhya karika and without giving up the fruit of one’s own deeds.
It is a sort of innate method, a natural initiation system which is presented, (Yoga Sutra, Vibhutti Pada, 8. "tad api bahir angam nirbijasya"), also having a deep connection to our identification with one of the three domains (sattwa, raja or tamas).
What also seems quite strange is that those concepts of Shamkhya, in spite of their countless and timeless renditions, do not seem naive even nowadays, whereas Aristotle’s associations of the senses to the natural elements of earth, water, air and fire might be perceived as amusing. Still, Aristotle is acknowledged by the „western canonic” science, while Kapila is hardly mentioned – being labeled as esoteric.
Spiritual teachings?
Be aware !
Comments
the cat, also, have a red ribbon, for Xmas : D
I accept both thanks and tanks : P
I seriously think to develop a sort of dialect of english. One of my own.
nice on maniu..
hmmm, reading this i get the impression that my knowledge of philosophy is quite.. limited. Humbling thought. Heh
Maniu, keep up the good work, you are on the tracks with the new dialect! : ))
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I wonder how you read so much 😁
Thanks for the Xmas pic : D
>> Spinoza, who even developed a geometrical method for the demonstration of philosophical ideas
Love this - I believe math, Physics and philosohpy have to unite - that is the base of the future of our world - Quantum madness 🙂
>>Still, Aristotle is acknowledged by the „western canonic” science, while Kapila is hardly mentioned – being labeled as esoteric.
Its easy to label what you don't understand as "extraterrestrial", "paranormal", "esoteric" 🙂 Normal human nature.
there is an interesting thought I recently came across (not my thought...something proposed by Matthew Reilly in one of his novels) Food for thought/discussion ...
why does the West fail to understand the objectives of a jihadi? what does a jihadi achieve by his suicide attack?
As per the author (and I do not necessarily agree this is the only reason) - the jihadi gains the ultimate victory by seeing the fear in his opponent's eyes just before they die.
Is that his only reward? Do you agree? for this is another side of philosophy and thought that is "Eastern" in origin, yet does not come easy to any of the other religions except Islam, though the other religions like Hinduism and Buddhism also originate form the East. So what is it that makes things so different despite being virtual neighbours geographically - how and when did the mindset change so much? What's even more surprising is that Christianity and Islam shared the same birthplace and yet they are the bitterest enemies...
Sorry for wandering off topic, was just posting something that you could think about, research and raise in your next edition 🙂
merde, prea lung de citit! votat, oricum
another nice piece of writing. voted..
bchon, grija mare sa nu faci vreo intindere sau luxatie la cerebel...
"What's even more surprising is that Christianity and Islam shared the same birthplace and yet they are the bitterest enemies..."
a basic characterization of families is, that they are dysfuncional... ; )
mi-am luat revansa si ti-am votat ultimele articole 🙂
Foarte bune! 🙂
I would surely like to read about Christianity and Islam .... 🙂
This man is deep!
dwaitha,adwaitha are the philosophy's which shape life and answers most of the questions...like ayn rand said being a philosopher needs more courage than any one else..people hardly understand the need for philosophy in their life..