Poaching v. Proselytizing
Gnilraps
Department of Getting Over It
Day 1,498 of the New World
27 December 2011
Poaching.
It's wrong, right?
Actually, probably not. Or, well, maybe it is.
But not every recruiter is a poacher.
Anyone who spends any amount of time attempting to build a party or a militia in this game will sooner or later be accused of poaching. I've been accused of it 3 times in the last month. But what was I doing, exactly, and was it wrong?
However you may feel about the Federalist Party and the Easy Company Militia is fine with me. But I happen to think that both are the finest examples of their kind in this game. The point of this article is not to convince you of that, though, I merely point it out as context. Whenever I am talking to anyone in this game about Party Politics or Militia activity, I am going to inevitably tend to boast about what makes the Feds and EZC so awesome in my eyes. I'd expect nothing less from you either.
But just because I am talking to a member of your party about my party, and just because I am inviting your party member to join my party, this does not mean that I am "poaching". The better term for what I am doing is proselytizing.
Poaching is something that is done in the middle of the night with black face paint and infrared glasses. Poaching is what takes place when the thing being poached is either the property of someone else or a protected species of some kind. It is histrionics to refer to open conversation in a public IRC room between one person and another who are debating the pros and cons of membership in a particular party or militia as "poaching".
An actual poacher
So for crying out loud shut up about poaching.
People have every right to speak to members of your Military Unit or members of your Political Party, telling them what makes their Party or MU so great. If your MU is so great, your members won't need to listen.
Proselytizing is a fairly benign practice that takes into account a person's passionately held beliefs about something and their subsequent desire to want to share their joy. I'm Proud/Horny to be a Federalist Party Member. You would be too. I just know it. And I'd love to give you my reasons. If I have to do that in a PM or on IRC then why shouldn't I?
"You seem like you'd be very happy in the Blue Party. Care to join?"
So I'd like to suggest a set of boundaries in terms of etiquette.
To that end I propose the following guidelines about "eRepublik Poaching":
It is in bad taste to send mass PM's targeted to an entire Party (or portion of a Party) for the sole purpose of recruiting those people into your party.
Mass Messaging for recruits, while efficient and legal, is just in poor taste. I really don't think people ought to get as worked up about it as they do unless the Mass PM is full of lies or distortions. But at the end of the day if you really want to recruit my people into your group, you should probably get to know them first. Save your Mass PM campaign for organizing that next huge PTO you've been plotting instead.
It is in very bad taste to speak ill of a person's current party in hopes of swaying them into yours.
A well-placed lie may be effective, but it's outrageously disrespectful of the person you are lying to and the person you are lying about. If it's gonna take lies to win a proselyte, you ought to reconsider your own membership in that group. Even if your smack talk is truthful though, why not just limit your presentation to your strong points and let your potential proselyte fill you in on what he doesn't like about his current group. You probably don't know as much about his group as he does anyway.
It is in bad taste to cry "poaching" when someone from another Party or MU has simply taken the time to personally invite your member into their group.
It makes you sound small. And if your people are happy you don't have much to worry about anyway. And also, when is the last time YOU talked to that member about their involvement in your group? People who cry "poaching" are probably the same ones who are losing touch with their membership base - or never really were in touch with them to begin with. Stop complaining about poaching and work on some retention. For Pete's sake.
It is not in bad taste to speak with members of any other group about why you think life in your group is so great.
This is, after all, still a social strategy game. People by all rights should believe their group is deserving of your membership. And when you find someone who plays the game well, why wouldn't you want to bring him into your fold? Your group is great, great people should belong there, right?
It is not in bad taste to invite a member of another group into your group.
You need to shut up if they turn you down though. Or at least postpone your second request until another time. It is in bad taste to badger someone. But if all you are doing is spreading the good word about life in your party or MU, I really don't see what the big deal with that is. Nobody owns anybody in this game.
All I am hoping for is a little less whining.
You may now return to your regularly scheduled clicking
Comments
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Hmmm, I mixed reactions about Poaching and such. Its a game, strategy. PP and MU leaders just got to find good ways to keep there members or face the fact members will leave I've noticed that with the Libs and Feds, members are wising away to different parties or form new ones or even go off into another nation. but good article tho.
Me=banned from #uslp
Guess why
All members of the UM are my personal property. Any attempts to reprieve me of my property will be dealt with harshly. Damn elitists.
\o/
To be completely fair to this article, I could make any party in this game whine ten times more than what you've seen if i actually cared anymore.
People who whine can be boring, but also delicious depending on the context. Having fought poachers before (NCP) and having dealt with people who "accidentally" message my entire party when it seems politically advantageous (AMP, USWP) I would say it's nothing to get worked up about unless you can actually do something about it.
It's not wholly fair to say "well if your party was better we wouldn't have taken your members away trololol" is being quite full of yourself, i give your arrogant trollery 3/5, however, allowing members to be poached from your party can be a result from poor leadership or tactical errors, I'll give you that much. You suck even more if you can't make up for the loss when it's occurred.
next article: bribery or extortion? the art of selling orders.
Did you just say nigga please?
You're whiter than me.
Good article that smacks of common sense. Of course, these days, common sense is anything but common.
lol BTW Rainy said your a moron 😛
But good article.
Ima go tell everybody come join the USWP. If it works dont be mad 😛
BTW not trolling just saying what im going to do if im allowed too
~pickle rolls up pants cuffs and looks for his waders~
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All members of the Government are my personal property. Any attempts to reprieve me of my property will be dealt with harshly. Blasted peasants.
it says the N word
OMG sorry im taking advantage of this if thats the case.
What the hell? Why would you use the "N" word?! I am disappointed in you Gnilraps. You are becoming exactly what I thought you were against.
next thing you know, he'll be breakdancing, drinking 40's and holding his Q1 weapon sideways during battles. wigga plz!
good article, though, as always. voted.
Henry Arundel: "next article: bribery or extortion? the art of selling orders."
gotta give Young Henry a point for that one. hahahaha!
"Nigga please" ?! kinda in opposition to the whole "good taste - bad taste" message, huh?
very disappointing to see this from one of the country's top journalists.
inb4 another 'classy' apology by gnilraps.
seems like he just does whatever he wants without thinking and just apologizes later
has anybody else noticed this trend?
Henry 'Pfeiffer' Arundel
'next article: bribery or extortion? the art of selling orders.'
This is more Pfeiffer's style:
Election Day, The Art of buying Congress
good insight, votado.
would you please ask your fellow party members to stop re-recruiting me, ONCE is enough, already
LOL @George. We seem to have a cat fetish in the house.
Good article that smacks of common sense. Of course, these days, common sense is anything but common. x2
Poaching is bad yes, but whining about it is worse; After all, those within a party are there by their choice, and theirs alone. It is the belief of the Technocrats that all Citizens are free to 'vote with their feet' at any time of their choosing, and Game mechanics permit them to do so at their whim as often as they might wish.
@Henry, "next article: bribery or extortion? the art of selling orders."
Bribery = 'going broke' by paying for votes with tanks.
Extortion = Sending mobile Voters from within your bloc coast to coast 'as needed'
Art = A fun-house mirror warping a plurality into a 'majority'
I think Rick Von Ruger is right personally
Cry me a river. All's fair in love and war.
lol look at the Hun trying to troll
Back in the USSR err... USA!
The 62 people who voted this article and the liar who wrote it are clueless. Nothing he writes is worth the screen it appears on. Wake up, people.
After reading this article and the resulting comments, I give no more of a damn now than 10 minutes ago.
ALL LIES!
If you wanted less whining you'd quit eRep.
Als, WTF Kara?
voted!