I'm Pretty Discouraged
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by atrawall
In case you didn't see, we signed some new MPP's with some more countries.
This is good because now we can fight more often.
But we are still occupied the same amount by Brazil...
I'm discouraged because South Africa really has no hope. The economy Plato has created for us has no hope of helping the situation either.
I really don't think this is Luna's fault. I think he did what was best for the country, and I'm not sure I'd have necessarily made the country "better" as CP.
This is what Brazil has done to us:
They forced their way into our house, and pushed us into a closet in the basement, and left it unlocked. Every time we ventured out of the closet, they'd SLAM the door back shut and leave us in the dark. They did this for a long time. So long that they finally got tired of even having to slam the door. So what they did was open the door themselves. They looked at us and said "We've decided to let you out. You are now free to roam this WHOLE basement! We'd let you back in the rest of the house, but we've grown rather comfortable. Please take this money for our stay! No? Well then, you can go back into the Cupboard again...
It's not rent if it's a permanent situation.
I'm not happy about not getting anything back in all our "negotiations." I'm really not. But I guess we have to have something to negotiate WITH, and we don't. Brazil will still only work out a deal for our TW's if it's convenient for them.
In the meantime they do provide a lot of our government funding, so we can't do anything until we are both self sustainable and able to fight back. At the same time, the reliance on this funding is a crutch that we now put too much weight on, which is why we can't lose it.
I guess I'll go back to having nothing to fight for and know that our government is safe... But I'm glad we have a bunch of new people, that I don't care about to fight for...
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Like I said, if you want change, population and activity are key. In eSA's current state, it needs Brazil whether some people like it or not.
I have not been here long, so I can not speak to what has happened in the past. What I will say is to not let a situation that seems bleak get the better of you.
"It is during our darkest moments that we must focus to see the light."
-Aristotle Onassis
If it is a growth in population and activity that are key, then fret not. I am a new citizen who is active and plans to be a part of eSA going forward, this should show you that there is new, active citizens joining eSA everyday.
Also, I have already convinced a new citizen to join eSA. If his past experience in games of this type is any experience then he should become an active citizen as well.
eSA can grow, and eSA can prosper!
Thanks Wasteland. I'm not decreasing my activity any, and don't plan on falling silently into the night, it's just depressing that there's really no current solution.
@ Seisan - After reviewing the options, sadly in our current state there is nothing we can do, except "Wipe."
It saddens me more that citizens have just accepted the agreement and made it so necessary. I'd like to see the goal of our country, "Escaping this treaty" But those who currently wish for that are seen as radical
and many just say "We can't do it." and don't seem to care or even be trying.
Well, to be frank, most of them are seen as radicals because they just let pride or passion dictate their actions as opposed to what is actually realistic. And those who do nothing either need to step up or stop running for government positions because they are not what eSA needs. We can escape the treaty, but it will take time and for everyone to accept that fact and work towards it.
I appreciate you voicing your concerns Claudio but we are working our hardest to do what is the best for this country.
Not mad at you, as I said, just the situation in general.
Egypt border? Maybe? Hopefully?
These radical anarchists...
You know that if we had better alternatives you'd receive more support. Meanwhile...
Go back to the punks corner! 😉
V!
Get more people in, do it now!
Claudio all it means the work is not done yet, we need to grow our nrs more, we know those that support stagnation has less nrs than a couple of months ago, and we have grown more than those that want more of the same . Not yet there but take motivation from where we have come.
Well said Kilgannon! It may sound defeatist but those of us who know him know it's not.
@Seisan: You are one of those who have come to think of this treaty as a permanent solution. To me that makes you as unsuitable for government as those you think would opt for immediate war against Brazil.
Rico, this is exactly why you guys are seen as radicals. You see opposition to your ideas and immediately associate it with the far extreme of where people's wishes lie. Not once did I ever say the situation with Brazil was permanent. Prove me otherwise, I dare you.
I stated in one of Caludio's first articles about Brazil that eSA needs to be able to stand on its own two feet with an increased population and activity. Breaking away is a LONG TERM goal that needs LONG TERM plans.
If you think eSA should immediately break away or even do so within the next three or four months, you are only deluding yourself. Brazil pays HALF of our monthly budget. We break away now and we lose our abilities to fund the NPP/SAWGO and our MUs. At that point activity drops, people leave, and eSA would still remain insignificant. We will NEVER be able to stand on our own two feet until we have more active players. That is the reality of eSA, whether you accept it or not.
Take a look in the mirror Seisan. Everything you accuse me of you are guilty of yourself. You're just on the other end of the spectrum. What I am saying is that I doubt you will ever think we're ready. You have been groomed into submission and you have come to love it.
There is no "long term" for eSouth Africa. We are dying. In another year there will be a hundred less of us and the reason is there is nothing to fight for and no prospects. Guys like you and I hang around because we'd rather be eDead than citizens of another country. A rare breed.
Do you even think about what you're saying Rico? "Nothing to fight for"? Yes, lets attack Brazil Rico. Lets lose half of our funding and be perpetually wiped. Because, you know, having new citizens start the game in an occupied country with no work bonuses will get them to stick around right? Not being able to supply them or our soldiers with food and weapons will keep people playing right? Again, this is why you THINK before you act.
The game has become boring for YOU Rico, you refuse to think about the other, younger citizens of eSA.
And, again Rico, I asked you for proof I have ever said that the situation with Brazil is permanent. If you can't, then stop talking out your ass. I have been pushing for eSA to recruit more players and get more active for months. I said it when Tenshibo lost his honorary citizenship and it was the entire driving force behind my run for CP. NOW people are finally catching on.
This game does not revolve around you Rico, it revolves around all of us. You wanna fight so badly, then work with us to get our population increased so we actually can. Get your head out of your ass and work for the younger generation rather than the old-timers who refuse to get over a long dead grudge. This isn't 2009 anymore, Rico, and you need to accept that. Help us get the population up and keep players playing or go somewhere else if you're so desperate for a fight.