Australia and CoT must say NO to Indonesian Demands
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by Mr Crumpets
Good evening eAustralia,
If there is anything you can be 100% sure in the story of eAustralia, is that whenever we look like getting out of the mess, the BIG BULLY that's eIndonesia comes along and ruins things.
Recently, eAustralia and eChile had reached terms on a treaty that would see (at this stage) the Northern Territory and Western Australia returned to eAustralia.
Part of this Treaty included a point where by January 10th, eAustralia was to sign an MPP with eChile. Failure to do so by eAustralia would see this nation lose a $200,000 bond and be a breach of the treaty.
Then, the greediest nation in the history of eRepublik comes along and wants a piece of the action.
eIndonesia demands eAustralia hands over Western Australia for NOTHING. ZILCH. NADA. ZERO.
Furthermore, they demand we do NOT do a MPP with eChile which would be a breach of our treaty.
Things get testy. eAustralia proposes a MPP with eChile and in return, eIndonesia proposes an NE (to attack) on eAustralia.
The MPP succeeds (despite a few Chileans voting No) and the NE is voted down after diplomats on behalf of eAustralia, eChile and the TWO Alliance get involved.
This stand-off once again proved that eIndonesia never thinks of anyone else but itself. It never consulted it's CoT allies and never put a fair deal on the table. It saw and it wanted to take.
This is not new. eIndonesia has a track record of screwing over it's own allies for its own glory.
Two years ago, before eIndonesia had ever been beaten on home soil, its ally in Serbia was charging through Asia, on a direct course to get to and take over eAustralia (and border with NZ). All that was left to do was for it to allow Serbia to pass through its land.
However the ego of eIndonesia got in the way and stopped Serbia from going any further. A slap in the face for an ally.
Instead of a 'rent deal' that could blow-up and hurt all parties involved, the fairest deal is a land-swap.
Western Australia for Paupa. This means both countries make money and eAustralia gets more congress seats.
You would think with eAustralia about to become an ally of eIndonesia (moving to a pro-CoT stack) that eIndonesia would agree to this fair swap and help build friendship between to the two countries... alas it's not so.
Once again, eIndonesia has thought only of itself and not the greater good and refused to give up any of it's home soil... even is a fair swap.
Why, oh why, does ANY NATION want to ally with eIndonesia when it refuses to play the team game?
It's proven to end it heartache time and time again, so why buddy up with eRepublik's BIG BULLY?
This situation brings a golden chance for eChile to demonstrate its friendship to eAustralia and willingness to uphold the treaty.
The charter of the CoT Alliance is overseen by the Alliance Court. Any member state can bring charges against another before the court.
I therefore call upon eChile to brings these following charges against eIndonesia before the Alliance Court.
1. A member state needs the approval of the MC in order to initiate a long term military operation by its own will. In this case it is recommended that the MC coordinates his decision to approve the operation with the Supreme Command and/or his Assistants.
eIndonesia made threats against eAustralia and attempted to start military action against it, without first consulting CoT. This reckless action would have ruined a treaty and MPP stacks.
2. A member state needs to inform the Supreme Command for all contracts it intends to sign in its relations towards non-member states. In case these non-member states have common border with a member state the Supreme Command should act as a mediator between these member states involved to avoid potential conflicts.
eIndonesia's demand of Western Australia within a 24 hour period was not known at the time to CoT Supreme Command.
Supreme Command has let it be know they'd like top avoid conflict and eIndonesia's threats against eAustralia were headed right for a major conflict involving CoT nations.
Furthermore, the origins of CoT was for it to be anti-imperial. eIndonesia's history and recent actions have been nothing but imperial.
It's time for eChile (whose treaty would have been impacted) to approach the Alliance Court and demand action against eIndonesia.
It's time for the citizens of eAustralia to send a LOUD and CLEAR message to our leader, Xavier Griffith... ask for a fair land-swap and if eIndonesia says no, walk from the the negotiating table.
For five long years our nations have tried to get along, five long years. NEVER ONCE has eIndonesia attempted to put a fair land-swap deal on the table. Now is the time to tell them, if you want to become friends, THEY HAVE TO PROVE IT.
A rent deal of releasing the state for congress elections only is going to backfire. Not a matter of if, but when. It just won't work.
We MUST secure a land-swap to build our friendship. Without, we as a nation will always be looking over our shoulder for when that eIndonesian back-stab moment comes.
For those CoT Alliance members reading, here's the most important moment in the history of your alliance. Can eIndonesia prove itself to be a team player and do a land-swap, or will it once again bring out it's imperialistic ways - everything which your alliance is not about?
I'm Mr Crumpets
Green and Gold Party Founder and Party President
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eChile - Take eIndonesia to the alliance court!
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Hear Hear!
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Very nice Mr Crumpets!
Good sentiment, but we don't get to tell eIndo or CoT how to play the game.
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Suport from Brazil
KILL DA INDOS! Dirty doggs
look who's crying ?
If I was in charge, I prefer reject eAustralia in CoT than bring disharmony to alliance.
eIndonesia and eChile (maybe eBrazilian too) can share eAustralian region like slice tart.
"Australia and CoT must say NO to Indonesian Demands"
No we don't. eIndo are doing that themselves. http://www.erepublik.com/en/main/law/Indonesia/122120
This NE is failing for the third time now I believe. You're crucifying a nation for the actions of a few congress members.
"For those CoT Alliance members reading, here's the most important moment in the history of your alliance."
No it isn't. It's a non event.
eChile - Take eIndonesia to the alliance court!
eIndonesia should watch out, with this behaviour it could cause major trouble between the CoTWO countries.
"This NE is failing for the third time now I believe. You're crucifying a nation for the actions of a few congress members."
ummm actually Crusadercarl it is failing for a second time not third. im wondering if eAustralia actually has friends or are they still puppets.
Although we cannot tell CoT or eChile what to do, this article is not ordering them around, in reality. All this article is doing is pointing out to eChile (and I'm sure many other CoT nations annoyed be eIndo's recent actions) that eIndo has indeed broken two of it's agreements with CoT, and thus they have the right to take eIndo to the alliance court - it's not saying eIndo should be kicked out of CoT because it broke some rule that eAus has imagined up about playing honourably, it is saying that eIndo has broken rules that is agreed to, and thus has to be held responsible - we're not ordering them, we're simply pointing out their own rules.
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@Mr Crumpets: It's time for eChile (whose treaty would have been impacted) to approach the Alliance Court and demand action against eIndonesia.
Oh, so NOW you turn to Chile...sounds kinda funny....oh well.
I must say that my support at this time is with AUS (I've said it in several comments), feeling that Indo's move was a big mistake had it gone through. Fortunately it didn't, and the new NE attempt is failing even worse than the previous one. This would indicate to me that Indo's are applying good judgement after all this mess. I hope I'm not wrong.
I do disagree that this would have impacted the Treaty we had with you guys. It would have been a large background noise, but the Treaty says nothing about us having to protect you against foreign invaders, it only obliges Chile to not give away AUS-originals to another country. So, having Indo attacked you on WA, would not have been a breach of the Treaty from our side.
Greetings
rtapiacl. maybe you should go back & read the documents again.
It isn't impossible that Chile would rather end the deal and allow Indo to take all of your remaining regions than annoy a powerful ally. Be careful!
I don't like this o.o
@Louise, make it simple for me. Why don't you illuminate the rest of us as to where in that Treaty Chile is obliged to defend you against Indo?
the NE proposal are being voted down because many Indo's are against this war,
but i think its not appropriate to provoke eIndo population
rent deal is fair enough because i dont think aussie can hold papua for more than a day
and last time i check Australia are not part of COT/ Trial of COT
and your COT MPP are only Chile and Peru
Tell me Diego - why cannot Indonesia do a land-swal with Australia?
We can hold Paupa, because Indonesia would not attack (if part of deal) and Chile would not attack (Treaty), and NZ would not attack (soon to be ally).
There's NO REASON why you cannot do a land-swap.
Indo would not attack, however there is always rouge citizens raise a resistance war and fight hard for it
especially when they have some quarrel with the government
Land swap can be done and i'm not against it, but rent deal is far more simple
@ rtapiacl, well it looks like you are right.
Silly me, I have always assumed that a MPP meant exactly what its name implied (like the MUTUAL & PROTECTION bit)- that I have always assumed was the honorable intention.
But looks like your point of view, that its just a scrap of paper to be followed or not, meh!, it just depends on how you feel at the time.
Tell me is your cynical view common amongst Chileans?
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Greetings nnInn
@rtapiacl
You're off-track anyway, the article didn't say that eChile would be infringing on the treaty by not defending our regions. Tell me where it said that. The article says that eAus would HAVE to break the treaty if we had given into eIndo's demands, because one of their demands was we do not form a MPP with eChile, and that was one of the parts of the treaty. Thats why it would impact on the treaty - if we followed eIndo's demands, eChile could easily declare war and take back the two regions with eIndo, and eAus would lose 200,000 AUD.
And Louise is correct, a mutual protection pact generally implies that you aim to PROTECT each other. Nowhere does the treaty say you should defend us. The pact eChile signed saying we would help protect each other does.
Indo ain't getting jack $&*%
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Gotta stop tryng to act hardcore for "standing up" to eIndo while you lay do to eChil. How did these fools win the election if not by have eChil vote for them?
DIe tooo eINDO!!!!!
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James Buffet, Mr. Crumpets isn't in the government. On top of that, the government won the election because people voted for them. There is a plain and obvious difference between eIndo and eChile - eIndo was forcing us to give them WA, we get no benefit. eChile is having a fair deal with eAus where both countries benefit - it's not "lying down to eChile", it's making a logical deal that increases eAus safety and gives us regions. You're not even eAustralian, so I don't know why you care - it must be the reason you're so obviously misinformed.
I moved EDEN player now, but was long time CoT player from Macedonia, and I am very surprised about Indonesia after I read this article. I am with you guys!
Who are you exactly to tell What Chile or any other member of CoT should do.
Also, I'd like to remind you that eAustralia is surrounded by members of CoT all of whom have been more then accommodating in looking to allow the country to get back on the map and to recover despite it taking an active role in the attempted perma occupation of Chile by Argentina as well as braking an agreement later on.
This was diplomatic problem that was solved. The attempts to use this to spark conflict within CoT is definitely not winning you neither sympathy nor any points.
By the way, war with Australia by Indonesia would not qualify as major campaign.
Major for us sport, and did not I see you earlier urging us to fight for India?
Jesus Christ eRichard Parker, did you even read the article?
Although we cannot tell CoT or eChile what to do, this article is not ordering them around, in reality. All this article is doing is pointing out to eChile (and I'm sure many other CoT nations annoyed be eIndo's recent actions) that eIndo has indeed broken two of it's agreements with CoT, and thus they have the right to take eIndo to the alliance court - it's not saying eIndo should be kicked out of CoT because it broke some rule that eAus has imagined up about playing honourably, it is saying that eIndo has broken rules that is agreed to, and thus has to be held responsible - we're not ordering them, we're simply pointing out their own rules.
brilliant, please eAus attack eIndo 😃
please... i beg you