[USA] Questionable Trust: Should your leaders do this?
Kria Erikson
It came to my attention today that one of our government officials sent out a message to at least part of the US ARMY MU today.
I didn’t get it, but I got sent a copy:
I probably could have let it go, despite the fact that a “Military Unit.. primarily for retired players” doesn’t have a kill count that looks like this on a regular basis, and doesn’t regularly get in the top 100 Military Units in the game. (there’s two links there 😉
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BUT, about a week and a half ago, I got this:
… yup.
I’m sure glad to not be directly lead by people that do this about now.
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I talked to Cerb, he continued to disagree that he did anything wrong. It's time for you to decide.
In my opinion, Cerb has is a lack of mutual respect for the eUS Military if he is carrying such actions. The TC officers don't message USAF troops to join eUS Mil. Cerb shouldn't do it either.
Cerb lost some respect points there.
Desperation much Cerb? One of our MUs kicks butt and hits the top 5 regularly, and you talk smack about it as a retirement home? Bet you wish all your MUs were that "retired". Pathetic move even for you. See you on the battlefield. You know, that place where the eUS Mililitary continues to support our true allies, without threatening our officers with removal for refusing to fight for an enemy the govt tried bringing in. (Like a certain other military did.)
CJCS
I think nobody will be surprised. Althought I don't pin it on the entire USAF as I'm sure the great majority has more respect than that.
It's just that some people really have a teeth to grind with many organisations out there that doesn't fit their perfect vision of what the US should be.
Nonetheless. The US ARMY still stand strong
HUA! o7
Rangers lead the way!
~hyuu~
Cerb has a lack of respect for anything Cerb doesn't approve of.
Hello, My name is Desperate, and I hold the title of Secretary of Slander.
I just wanted to let you know that instead of using facts I'm going to lie to your face because I have questionable morals, and I don't respect you or the branch you're a part of!
So come and join our new branch because I told you so.
Have a great weekend!
Let's see if other active MUs can do this good when they 'retire'!
ARMY - Sound Off! show them your (retired) battle face!
😃
Derp. Not a smooth move by Cerb.
Although let's give the wild credit-claiming a break. The size of the US Army MU is not due to the wondrously attractive nature and diligent leadership of the JCSF.
You know, that place where the eUS Mililitary continues to support our true allies, without threatening our officers with removal for refusing to fight for an enemy the govt tried bringing in. (Like a certain other military did.)
>except for working with the current government
1) I DID NOT message anyone with an eUS Mil avatar. If Kria has any integrity, she'll admit that.
2) Since I didn't message eUS Mil players....is the JCS all 1800 claiming occupants of the MU are exclusive eUS Mil property, or that they're all active beyond just two-clicking?
I tried to talk to Kria, but we disagreed about whether most of those players were retired/two-clicking or not. I disagree as part of my job irl, so I didn't see it as a TURRIBLE convo, but I guess she felt it warranted an attack article.
I also volunteered not to message anyone in the MU, even though the eUS Mil is not covered by the DoD recruitment rules. Oh well. Good to know who my friends are and aren't.
Night all.
P.S. Before this article existed, I already promised to cease referring to that MU as "for retired people."
Jul 14 20:19:22 but i will not call it a retired MU
Jul 14 20:19:25 or a newbie MU
Also, to point out again, I never messaged anyone with an eUS Mil avatar. Thank you and good night.
Anyone that posts
"GO ROGUE"
should get a link to this int the shout comments....just sayin.
1. I agree no one with a eUS mil avatar was messaged to my knowledge.
2. I actively encourage all the members to sign up on the eUS forum as well as take advantage of the mentoring programs the eUS government has in place.
3. >job IRL - I could have sworn you were a student 😐
4. I considered Cerb a friend until he tried to recruit me... I mean the communes I have, so I'm glad all parties understand where we're at now 🙂
Let's see. You called it a retirement MU. You disagreed with Kria, so that made it ok. Not all eUS Mil ppl have frames. If JCS went MU sniping I am 100% positive you, or someone in the govt, would have an article, with purchased votes, splashed all over the dayem media. Am I wrong? I think NOT. But what really burned me the most was your message to Kria personally. Quit the JCS (her family), join your group, oh and bring all the stuff with you. Yeah that isn't anything to get riled about.
Oh and about that working with the govt crack, beat a dead horse much? Maybe you better ask Evry what channels he sits in. Oh yeah, OURS.
There goes Cerb, derping it up again. I think the only more untrustworthy person in the eUS is Pfeiffer. Think Cerb may have just tied him.
I re3ally don'r care.
i luv u all
For the Record, Cerb has been mailing members of the Civilian MU and those without eUSMil, eUSAF etc Avatar Frames/Logo's for several days now. If the JCS does not require its members to wear the frame, and join the MU for their unit, then they have no ground to complain. As for the Commune comment, I highly doubt that he was in face serious. Seriously people, stop being so sensitive about stupid petty crap and blowing it up out of proportion.
love you eMomma
sad case, i guess it's hard to get anyone to join their unit
Dravik Rixx - while US ARMY nor any other JCS MU/branch doesnt have any written agreement with Gov. about NOT to snipe people from ours and theirs MU-s i still find that using lies to recruit more people shouldn't not be so acceptable. And i know for dayem right US ARMY aint some retirement MU as i made it and havent decided to change its purpose so far. I agree that all these players in US ARMY aint exactly our "property" but at least person(s) recruiting should use correct argumentation.
😑 Cerb... you're not very good with domestic affairs so I'd suggest you to take a week or two off from what you plan to do and just stay low... i mean, first the DoD that you took down and then this. And, i really dont like the tone which you put in your messages.. whether you mean it or not, I can't tell through text so you'll have to either state that you do mean it or dont say it at all (I'd suggest the second one since it would keep you out of trouble all together). ~ Respect lost again
Cerb, had you said something like "Hey Kria, how about you come play on the dark side for a change" or "Kria, any chance you want to come to the Rogues for a try?" Maybe it would have been accepted correctly, as a friend to friend invite. But you said "Kria quit the JCS, we could use some more communes. They are hard to come by." That was one of the worst insults to someone who worked dayem hard to get to where she is, in my opinion. Especially coming from a friend.
Even if you buy the argument that its OK to message people if they don't have an official US Army border that still doesn't excuse the patent lie that the US Army MU is a retirement home. I think Cerb better talk to his new Boot Camp commander Synesi about the right way to do recruiting so maybe he can keep from coming off as suck an asshat.
eUS Military for LIFE \o/
Well said everyone, we are true and true.
eUS Military Army.
Rangers Lead The Way
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RBU
Somebody help that avruch feller to build a bridge so he can get over himself already.
Serious cause of butthurt in that one.
oh, yeah, dick move cerb. dick move.
Lol
How pathetic and lame is that ? x D
rogue is rogue obviously
You are sitting on the noob trap unit full of random players who think thats the actual army, which no JCS officials even attempt to train or divert them even to the TC. That unit is the reason for many players joining and quitting this game. Atleast try to message them
Also rogue squadron has the most plentiful group of leaders in one MU. We have former presidents and many more government officials which is more that can be said about the JCS unit you idle in fighting where ever you want to.
Cll venom - you are making claims here which are not based on actual facts. I'm pretty sure NOONE in JCS has ever claimed this MU is the one and only and im sure you have your "true" argumentation in the new citizen message where they can find out who's who. So they are not misinformed by our side. We have sent people who are interested to TC and we have also recruited some to our Military branches. It's funny that you are claiming WE are at fault of players leaving.
I agree with kolv1k's first comment. I think Cerb regrets the way the message to MU members was worded, and he thought he was just friendly joking with Kria and is sorry for the way it came across. The government is not trying to recruit members of the JCS Army (although of course, we'd always love to have the Kween).
Are we at fault of so much players are leaving all over the eRepublik as well, ehh?
If you think that having more ex-CP's and other officials as MU members is the only way to success then so be it. But while we have NO obligation (remember - we are independent) to fight where some of you may want us to we HAVE fought and helped the USA (read Gov as well) enough. And we are not making demands how YOU should play, perhaps you should not do so either.
getting people to join that military unit controlled by pro-one players, just another step towards getting USA into ONE, next one will probably be getting MPP with some ditched ONE country, to provoke reaction from current US allies...
The more things change, the more they stay the same. The army has always been strong, and it will remain the same. I helped put the JCS together to protect the armed forces from the political back stabbing that happens with players. The shifty elected leaders, and grand multi-national that crumble when the heat gets poured on. Defense of America with a non-political body of commanders. Bravo Zulu (good job) JCS.
Private by choice,
General US Army, Army Chief of Staff (ret.)
It's a good retirement home, I see nothing wrong
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Posting cause I saw my name.
awwww guess i am in a retired MU >.> darn.... time to go kill another 200 people seeing as that is my "retired job" 😛 too funny too funny
"Also rogue squadron has the most plentiful group of leaders in one MU. We have former presidents and many more government officials which is more that can be said about the JCS unit you idle in fighting where ever you want to. "
LOL, referring to Cerb and Haliman as leaders. That is so epic fail. Also, I have been watching your comments CIIVenom, and I must say, you really have no clue what you are talking about. Not a surprise, but I figured I would give you a heads up.
But keep hating, it's nice to see you're still jelly after all this time.
Cerb, if you didn't do it then why is your name linked to the attacks???
Cerb, what a douche bag. I'm embarrassed that he was ever in Airborne
All but calling Kria a pack mule for communes. To invite someone to something is one thing, to blatantly say you'd like to make what is theirs into yours is just rude.
When you first popped up I thought it was a little neat, since I love me some Star Wars. Since then you've grown like a cancer and I just see "OMG GO ROGUE LOL" everywhere, all from like 3 people.
It matters not if they have on a uniform: don't hunt in our MUs
Lieutenant Colonel Kitmen, Bravo Company, Mobile Infantry
@CII venom: if you mean you have political leaders, yes, I agree. But when/why should former politicians and congressmen be leading the military?... btw they way, are you forgetting that the Marine Corps itself hits the top 5 eUS MU list weekly with the least amount of fighers (http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/day-1698-top-5-eus-mu-rsquo-s-2082112/1/20)? Note that the Marine Corps is only 1 of the branches in the eUS Military
Cerb, what a douche bag. I'm embarrassed that he was ever in Airborne
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I'm struck by a couple things.
1) I've known Kria for 3 years.
2) I've always known her to go out of her way to avoid saying anything remotely negative about anyone, no matter how richly deserved.
3) I've never known her to lie.
Sorry, Cerb, I think you must really have stepped in it to bring this down upon yourself. Be warned.
Hey Cerb, fly your toy X-wings over the Canadian Border, let us show you how "retired players" kick it old school.