[NL] Spring is Far Away
NoTie112
As you may, or may not have noticed some peculiar events happened in the last weeks. In an unprecedented manner, close to 200 players/accounts have been banned over the past weeks and days, all of them part of Asteria or related alliances such as Hydra. During the latter months of 2019 these players supposedly exploited a hilariously broken game mechanic that has skewed the balance in the game ever since.
It wouldn't be the first time that exploits, cheats and bots have been used to gain an unequal advantage against the enemy. The developers of eRepublik have simply incentivized such behaviour that all big players make use of without second thought. Hence the rules surprisingly being maintained for once on one side has led to a sense of defeatism and (baseless or not) accusations regarding the state of the game.
As player in the eNetherlands and part of the HQ of our alliance Hydra for some time, this has certainly led to a massive change in balance. The ones that remain in allied countries such as Serbia, Italy, United Arab Emirates or Macedonia are understandably dismayed and lack any further motivation to drag on. This has essentially killed the backbone of fighting our enemies of the alliance CODE.
A surprisingly select amount of countries, such as the Netherlands or Spain, have been relatively unaffected themselves but will be in a dark time. CODE countries such as Croatia have already shown much commitment to seek their long-desired revenge amidst a beheaded enemy.
The Path Forward for The Netherlands
These developments are especially bleak for a country like ours. As a small community-minded country, we have been unaffected and most of us unaware of the snake-pit that leads to such scandals. On the other hand, we have also excelled as part of the Asteria-Hydra family with ever-growing ranks and of course, our well-deserved success during the last Resource Wars. Unlike many of the affected countries, it wouldn't make much sense for us to leave just yet.
While we've always had an extensive diplomatic network that far exceeds just Hydra and Asteria, there is no denial that we'd be easy pickings for some enemy countries that eye ever more so towards us. Nor can we stay obvious to the fact that we are likely to lose a bunch of our Training Wars and perhaps even luxuries such as the Neodymium concession.
It remains to be seen what happens in the coming weeks. Perhaps a scramble of forces and a change of elites remaining in the Asteria-Hydra will occur, once the dust has settled. Perhaps an overall change of balance will occur in the world, revolving away from just a Code-Asteria conflict. According to rumours, some frictions within Code and versus some Pacifica countries have already happened.
In the meantime, it can only be hoped the Netherlands continues with fervour in maintaining its community and its long-term goals of empowering itself together with her allies. Stay alert!
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At this moment I can only see the end of the road unfortunately...
Falling is not a problem. The important thing is knowing how to get up.
That's when you realize who are real fighters. Happiness goes neighborhood by neighborhood. Sometimes you have to win and sometimes to lose.
But if you don't know how to lose and to win you have to cheat. You are doomed to frustration
The fact that Croatian, Albanian or Chilean accounts didn't get banned is a spit in the face! Of course they exploited the same vulnerability but considering the current situation it is not beneficial (for admins) to ban them... Now Code will open their wallets and blindly will start spending money.
Seeing what is happening here only a fool could continue to pay for this game... no matter on which side you are on.
I am glad I haven't spent a cent on this game...
What's the point of spending money if the enemy has literally disappeared?
You are so full of shit that whole eRep smells now.... you must be that cheater draivis, the one that DID exploit the bug.
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Well written and well said.
"these players supposedly exploited" - lost me there, no need to bother reading the rest.
That doesn't surprise me that you haven't. I was following the fact there is an ''ongoing investigation'' how laughable that may be that hopefully leads to a full explanation of what happened and who was involved and how balance can be reshaped.
If there weren't all the deploy reports given to us by Serbian cheaters, your explanation might actually make sense.
Relating "bots" used by every major country to an exploit used by a small number on one side to dramatically and instantly alter the balance of the game.. intellectually dishonest.
They hang around Serbs for too long, so logic and common sense gradually become mythomania.
It is intellectually dishonest to pick that one sentence out and shape it to your liking. I even explicitly mentioned the skewing of balance ever since.
I find it an interesting observation nonetheless that bots and multies can now be euphemized. Mobilizing dead and bought accounts is a balance-destroying element as well, people like yourself and other big players on both sides are just ignorant to realize that since you counter each other with it while the large majority of nations is left out and significantly weaker.
You are right though that it is merely mobilizing already existing potential and resources, unlike creating it out of thin air (probably the reason why the first doesn't get punished that much).
We sent tkts and shouted for years abt multiple accts/bots, at some point our side had no choice but to play the game as it was actually played. Nobody would be happier than me if the admins were able to stop it. One set of rules for all players tho.. not one for Ro/allies and one for everybody else.. we're not going back to that.
You always had a choice.
Speaking the one who have bots in every country, even here. Is there a player who got more multies than you ? asterian server was nothing compared to you in this matter.
Asteria has a server? Do tell all about it.
Sure, same as your Airbots
You are confused, you probably mean Romanian and Serbian airbots on servers from at least 5 years ago?
The Asterian players that are banned (substantial number of them) admitted using the deployment exploit - so it is not something that supposedly happened. They started to admit it after some of their top hitters were permabanned a week ago because the hitter accs used autofight script. Because of these permabans some Asterian players entered rage quit mode and started admitting about the exploit used in the period from Oct/Nov 2019 until Feb 2020 to disbalance the war situation between proCODE and proAsteria.
What I understand these players are not under investigation because it is not proven they used exploit, they are under investigation until the administration decides what punishment or course of action to do considering how much the exploit affected the game since and likewise how much potential permaban of all the cheaters may affect the game in the future. It should also be taken into account that there are rumors spread by now banned Asteria/Hydra players that one of the moderators provided information on exploit existence to Asteria/Hydra players. This fact more than anything enraged many CODE community players because we have sent tickets informing the administration of the fact that there is something fabricated going on that created disbalance and we asked them to investigate this and administration claimed they checked and that everything is in order. Only after some Asteria/Hydra players have admitted to using the exploit after already enraged due to permabans of hitters, administration could not deny anymore about what was going on in the period from Oct/Nov 2019 until Feb 2020. It is a shocking development for both sides. If you look at it honestly from CODE's side of view, you can easily imagine why we are pissed at administration right now.
Right now I belive both sides are. And remember we - the players - are the real strenght here, not admins. But Stillfront group ( owners of ereplabs ) will be for sure ultra happy to see how their money drop to 0 😃
Why is Asteria pissed? Because they cheated and got away with it until they basically reported themselves?
Well if I was Stillfront, losing income from eRep Labs is not the only problem I would be worried about. Imagine how much their reputation as game developer of mobile games could be hurt if it could be proven that they fabricated the exploit and made it available for one side to use in order for the other side to spend more money to counter the exploit dmg and rank advancement the exploit provided to the cheaters. The exploit allowed one side to tank huge amount of dmg with ončy one deployment expense artificially prolonged to add further dmg while spending significantly less resources to tank (especially in EBs, and bigger the deployment pool, bigger the effect the exploit had on the battlefield), while at the same time CODE players were spending huge amounts of EBs, boosters, weapons from their stacks to try to beat the fabricated dmg invested by Asteria/Hydra players that used the exploit.
So you can write how much you want on unfairness of the outcome for both sides, but one side enjoyed winning without spending RL money, while at the same time the other side was losing and spending RL money. Cheaters also admitted after being banned that they expected to be banned and went all in with their resources to use the exploit to the maximum potential and was puzzled themselves how much it took for the administration to recognize (practically it denied it even happened, until proof and testimonies could not be ignored anymore) what they were doing at the expense of the enemies.
I agree with first part that this is unaceptable behaviour from devs and whole group should be replaced immediately.
I cant agree on second tho, cause we all know you croatians shared passwords to your accounts with others, build first and biggest bots servers ( Colin ) or making official multies for infants ( Romper ) . This game stopped to be fair in 2014. Both sides cheating so justice should be for both too.
Oh yes, rompetta, super tank, brought down Crysteria! That is the real reason!
You cry worse than Servs and that is really hard to do. As for password sharing that is also Serbian invention, they used it for night battles all the way back in v1, to fight against Americas time zones.
our side is the one that pleads administration for removal of bot farms (Asteria makes free cc to buy packs on these farms from cheap labor) and servers for years. proAsteria side started to recognize (complain) there are bots only when you start losing or when you get a few bans (atm administration has banned usage of servers, only when it could be proven it had an influence on the outcome of the battlefield, but lately they started to ignore even such proof, so realistically they tolerate usage of servers or bots unless such usage is made for enhancing an individual account or to cheat on elections - there are "clear" rules what administration is "tolerating" that are "known to both sides" for a long time) and our side is fully against it at all times (and not just when Asteria's servers are "under maintenance"). It is very hypocritical to stick a bot server label to anyone on CODE side, when Asteria dominated due to bot server usage for years (especially during a period when China was a member of Asteria). When we dominated in 2019 it was obvious we had more active high rank and RL money spending players still playing the game - dmg difference on the battlefield closely matched the amount of packers each country had. What we were pissed most in 2019 was how Asteria was allowed to buy so much packs without spending RL money - this is where the cheating again was substantially disbalanced against our side. We again had to spend more RL money to counter the fraud money harvested by Asteria top countries. The problem for Asteria in 2019 was that they realized that their previous advantages in bot farms and servers were not sufficient anymore to dominate on the battlefields. But not to worry - there was a deployment exploit introduced to save Asteria...
Let me start with Antwone as he speaks with respect, not like you Romper laughing from higher ground, but I will come back to you too:
- Antwone I fully agree agree what you saying, I am against such practices too. As you see nobody from eNetherlands were banned because we playing fair. Every of our players is unique and with huge majority you can speak on our telegram channel ( besides IW party which belive it is russian spying program xD ). All I want is to play fair game ON BOTH SIDES.
I didnt said anywhere that players who are banned are innocent - IF THEY CHEATED THEY DESERVE IT, but the same deserve cheaters on your side.
As a player who spend thousands of euro in 2020 to make eNL catch up a bit to medium size countries, it is also unacceptable for me that devs let them use anything that should be repaired right away and ban imediately everyone who used it - BUT IT SHOULD BE DONE IN 2019.
I belive someone should take ereplabs to court for that, you are not the only side who lost a lot of money cause of this, not every proAsterian is a cheater. We tried hard to keep up spending real monies.
I also cant talk much about what Asteria done in 2019 because we were very small community in Orion, we become proAsteria in 2020. All I can say is that every cheater deserve a ban - Colin and Romper too.
Now you Romper -
"Romper
Oh yes, rompetta, super tank, brought down Crysteria! That is the real reason!"
see, you dont even trying to deny it, you just got official multi and you are not better than asterian cheaters. I am far from crying, I am just showing you how your side cheated too.
Anyway, what I want to say is that you are not the same big and great Romper I knew from years ago when I was still playing in ePL, or when we talked when I was their CP ( tak, jestem prawdziwym polakiem ). You had respect of all players, even your enemies. You was great example how players should behave, everybody wanted to be like you. Now you are merely a shadow of that person. What happend, where is that guy ?
@Weekstrom - obviously I am doing this effort in making these replies and explanations to you (Dutch players) because I respect eNetherlands community a lot and what it achieved in this game. Our side is used to endure the consequences of exploits and cheats for years (we are constantly on edge of widespread apathy which is not making us look like a good society to be engaged with), while Asteria always used their well oiled propaganda to represent us as poor losers ("crybabies") that cannot admit to losing because Asteria are better in strategy, numbers, organization (sometimes they are really good at these) while their victories for years are substantially based on exploits and illegally accumulated wealth. Asteria uses a very clever approach of carrot and stick diplomacy to smaller countries like yours that have on the other side accumulated many years of respect for Asteria's dominance in this game. Their long dominance produces an image and stability of being a part of the winning side long term, which is why most small countries look to get themselves under Asteria's protection umbrella for years (if there are no geopolitical reasons to stop them being included). The truth of why Asteria managed to overturn CODE's dominance is finally out for everyone to know (some will continue to deny it still). The truth that Fyrom, UAE and Titan's Italy communities are overwhelmingly run by cheaters is also out - if anyone could have even been blind to not see that from obvious reasons (the same reasons you unfairly try to label on CODE side to be equal to Asteria - in any segment of spreading the rules we are not even close to be on the same level they are/were in pushing the limits of what administration allows, because most of us do not want that kind of playstyle to even exist).
I am not leading CODE (not since the exploit) - I know how much anger there is in CODE (because of all this) and, if these temporary bans will be turned to permanent ones (as they should really) everyone will soon see not so friendly face of CODE (seeking revenge and retribution on what is left of proAsteria). However, even so your or any other fair playing and honest community has nothing to fear long term. CODE will cease to exist soon if there is no proAsteria to keep it together. CODE lost many great RL players (many dear friends of mine) that stopped playing because how injustice and frauds were tolerated by administration for years. Our (CODE) communities will likely never recover from this, unless this game is really changed for the better (permabanning these cheaters means nothing to us - if the game is not fixed (mechanically) and protected from similar exploits in the future).
You should really find Taina and ask her about my kids accounts. And then stop with all the BS. Or you can be like Servs, repeating lies over and over again until they believe them to be true.
And you playing fair? Lol you have Cive in eNL and you talk about playing fair? Try not to be such a hypocrite.
Antwone I agree but first they should repair it or to be honest write the code once again so such bs wont happen again.
Romper
Cive is here for two month, didnt had any problem with him. He is active and helpful. If he is cheating why he is not banned too ?
I don't agree with the idea that CODE can be against the tolerated cheatings if CODE is using them too. Sometimes one has to make a decision, want to play honestly, or want to win that way but than the integrity will be lost. I turned blind eye for a long time too, but since some players already believe themselves and their multies to be more "useful" than entire communities, it's not possible to ignore the destruction this has done to the game. I would say beating Asteria was interesting only as long as there was a difference between the attitudes the two alliances.
ToS and Priv Policy have changed Romper. Doesn't matter what Tania would had said at some point. Under the new ToS your son accounts are illegal, but guess what... Cryatia owns this game 🙂
I don't have a son, so no problem there. Ex post facto laws are against constitution in every civilized country because they are unjust, and so is the case here. You can't change the law in a way that affects actions that are done before the law was passed. Got it?
Ut sementem feceris ita metes.
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@antwone, very well said!
Okay, if push comes to shove I'll buy an IP pack to help defend my country!
It hardly changes anything which side has the hammer for a small country. Everyone is pretty easy to deal with. Not many nut cases running things anymore.
Asteria uses carrot and stick diplomacy, CODE uses rod and stick.
asteria use diplomacy? hahahahahahaha
no difference between them
The universe will end in ice
eRep will end in drama
Vuur en drama!