Vote for our future, referendum 00.1
Day 1,803, 04:04
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by Vincent Pain
Hi EBelgian citizens,
today is the first day to change our future. I ask you to bring out you'r vote and make change possible.
At the moment there are several programmes offered by current government, all of them are only for erepbelgium forum users. They are in fact payd by all of uss.
To give the bigger part of the Belgium population the chance to benefit from one of these subsidies, we have proposed to make those applications for citizenpack programme ingame, instead of the outside forum.
So let uss vote on this!
We propose to bring the citizenpack program ingame.
Vote yes, No or Abstain
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YES - 1
NO - 0
Abstaine - 0
Is there no debate?
Is it so difficult to register on the forums and ask for the citizen packs instead of putting a referendum to vote. Remember, this referendum does nothing. Even if it passes, the decision lies on the congress. Until the constitution states that Congress holds this power no referendum will work for. This will only show us who wants it. Oh and how do you want to organize this? How should people ask for it, who should distribute it, etc etc. Please do that before doing one
Before doing a referendum.
This is not a debate thread if you want one start it and stop your whining. You only whine because you are scared to loose your power.
Lol @ vincent/Belgium PTO guy.
How is that being scared? It's only common sense, if you cannot answer, that means you haven't thought your ideas out and that means you're completely useless.
As I said before. Congress holds the power and until either the admins change the system or the majority in congress changes the constitution this referendum won't do nothing. I'm not scared to loose my power, people elected me and the party members, like you were elected by the people. Before doing a referendum you should start changing the constitution so that the referendum can change something but to do that you will have to need a congress and no direct democracy.
The LOL is that you are dumb enough to believe your friends MCkitkat and CO..... this demand is been done before and debated before.
We all know this demand is possible, ask yourself how are people getting the Citizenpacks ATM?
How will we do it ingame??
If you have 1 brancell you could see the answer!!...🙂
People didnt elected you MCkitkat, people voted for you'r party. Your party lost a huge amount of votes, and your party wil keep on loosing. Why is it so hard for you to do what the people want?
Again belgium PTO guy avoids answering the questions MCKitkat asks.
And I'm in no way friends with Kitkat, infact, hell, I don't even know who that is.
Whi is the Belgian PTO GUY?? LOL
And who is 2.D.G???
This explains a lot.... http://www.erepublik.com/en/main/citizen-friends/5989869
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Ehm, excuse me but what shows us his friends list... please explain.
People can too vote for another party if they don't like Res Belgica, so they voted for me and my party companions. So if I think right, one person will post every day a article where people can ask for Citizen packs, but the amount of people asking will be huge and maybe the responsible person will find people who aren't Belgians and who aren't able to get the Citizen pakcs but because of the huge amount he will make mistakes
This person will then have to possess a huge storage to give the Citizen packs to each person. Then people will create multies and get more then one supplies per day. And to check that per article is much harder then per forum because people have to register there and until that is done most multies have been found.
Or the responsible will get each day thousands of PM of people asking for Citizen packs a huge logistic challenge. The responsible will loose the will to do that and leave
So we will have to find a new one who's able to take this responability. The person has then to be trustfull and daily active, have a huge storage etc etc. But the candidates for this don't grow on trees... You know what I mean?
Well u can use a link that brings the person aplieing to an external page or webside. You are trying to make it something that is not possible. You know it is possible.....
An externel link, like a forum. So what's the point in all that please.
The point is that all of uss must be able to aplie in game, thats why this referndum is placed. 😒
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Good luck to Res Belgica and your new fellow Congressmembers!
Have fun with them!
But they don't apply ingame. They apply on an external site. The forum is such an external site. Please tell me where the sense is. If we want to ask ingame, one of my possibilities I explained above will be used, if not an external site will be. But right now we are using an external site so why make a referendum for something that we are already using.
Okay, PTO guy, aka vincent.
1. Your referendum obv. doesn't do anything at all.
2. Why is my friendslist relevant?
3. Learn english.
I forbear to say that is like saying I'm not interested. and the truth is that interests me.
so vote NO.
it's fun to be in the forum, although I have not much time, but you can discuss the best way. Greetings o /
MCKitkat
-they wil aply ingame
-we can use a site next to that if people are giving the person handing out food trouble, a site were you must register yourslef first, maybe we can keep track on suplies their aswell.
2.D.G why are you flaming?
1. All programs are only for forum users: not correct, bta and bna are not linked to the forum
2. Apply ingame and register on another site is making it even more complex
3. Cit packs was an incentive to have people use the current forum to involve as many people in the debates and various programs, exactly to involve as many people as possible, so it is already doing what you intend to achieve, you just want to be in control of this new site and have all the power
Vote NO
But if they apply ingame, one of my previous possibilities will be used. Either per article, or per PM. This increases the confusion and the logistic. The forum does that. People register and apply for citizen packs. We can keep track who asked them, their links make the donation easier and it is more clear than here on the article. So the forum does everything you want but you don't want to use the forum so your fault if you don't get citizen packs, but then stop complaining about it.
What confusion?
The only one confusing this all is u..... it is in fact verry easy.
1- Let people aply for a citizenpack.
2- The one who donates the food can make a friendship request (that way he will get to know who aplies and who cant aply "foreigners")
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YES - 1
NO - 2
Abstaine - 0
Fixed that for you
@Vincent Pain:
1- They can, register on the forums, apply and tadaaa.
2- A friendship request to know who applies and doesn't apply? Really? So he can't have friends etc.
I'm not making anything confusing, you are
You want an extern page, we have the forum for it. You are trying to do the same as we have now. This referendum is pointless, no more no less. The circumstances are still the same. If 3000 people apply for citizen packs every day, we need a person with a huge storeage, trustfull
and daily active, if the person can't handle all this we need a new one. Finding an new person who has all these things is very hard. Why don't use the forum, it is the same thing. The only thing you are trying to do is to sell the idea as yours, so if this passes and it gets done you can earn the conratulations for the "good system" which will then be the same as it is now. People apply on an extern site, THE FORUM. Nothing more to add there, your comrades are just blindly following you as if
you were the messias who will heal us and bring back peace. You guys are unconstructive, seeing here that there is no developping of the idea. The picture does not make any sense at all. It is a referendum not a pointless article. You guys can't do more than say, Praise the messias, he is right everyone is wrong. And your comments about Revolution and the annoying "Schweinehunde" are just whining. I'm getting sick of all this. You tryed to steal the taypayers money and now you declare yourself
Vote NO.
the taxpayers money and now you declare yourself the protector of this money. Like you can see here, while some people are trying to criticze while still being costructive, you guys are just saying that we are wrong, and this with two or three words. Maybe I should start doing the same as write as answer to all critics "Kill these Schweinehunde" but no, I don't want to fall so deep...
Mckitkat
1-they can ask it in here ..tadaaaaaa
2-the friendshiprequest wil make it much easyer....
Im not making anything confusing, you are
u want proof that this can work?
Well go chaeck other newspapers who are handing out free food and even GOLD.
LOL
Get real MCKitkat ....
and stop whoining 4GOD sake!
yes
YES - 2
NO - 1
Abstaine - 0
I ask jojin mercenario for hes vote since that NO wasnt verry clear.
They can ask it in here, yes but what happens next. One of the previous mentionned possibilities or the by you mentionned external link, which is the same then the forum. So with the idea you make more work then we have now.
Yes - 2
No - 4
Abstain - 0
Fixed that for you.
MCkitkat voted after a whining concert about this way of voting. 🙂
Ehm, It was quite clear how my opinion about this was. It was up to you to notice that. Consider it as what you want, cause I consider it as constructive critic while whining is that what you did on the forums and are doing now after they asked you to publicly apologize for your actions.
Oh and for ingnoring the last posts on your last articles. LCC or how you call your party only uses lies and ignores the important posts, while not giving any good arguments. And there are examples for that
I have a suggestions, why don't you add more pointless pictures into your article...
look, if vincent want citizen packs distibuted ingame, that is his right, if he want to do this referendum, OK, but he knows that only a limited number of citizens read this, mostly his friends and guys like me who want to know what he is up to, so the result is not really objective.He knows that he has to pass by the congress, so if he finds here enough yes votes he has an argument, for the rest it has all be discussed , and he has 7 congressmembers on his side for this, so we will see
when he put it in debate what will come out
Vincent, exactly wich part of my comment was "flaming"
Because I don't see any.
Anyway, answer my question.
LCC/ Libertad does not deserve any tax dollars, I calculated the amount of taxes you guys paid and it is less than .2 bef as a whole. If all of your workers worked then you would pay .2 Bef but a huge amount of your workers do not work everyday and many also are eDead, so your whole PTO group pay less tax per day than a normal citizen who works and pay their taxes with a salary of 20 befs. You even promote and use the black market.So stop using your lame tax argument for you are a tax dodger.
So why do you think you are entitled to goods when you do you pay your taxes at a fair rate? How is this fair to the real clicking class who pays by the rules and pay their fair share of taxes? How about I give you .2 BEF and you will stop PTOing eBE? You are no hero of the people and the weak, you are an ultra capitalist who exploits the system for max profit and you want to take the hard working people's bounty for yourself while you use loopholes to max your profit.
I really think you know no shame for how do you think you are entitled to 20 food and 4 Q7 tanks while you work hard against eBE and you do not contribute to the safety net of eBE. LCC/ Libertad is a farce of left leaning political movement. It is on the other hand, a perfect role model for the venture capitalist. Vincent does not reminds me of Marx but of Mitt Romney and his tax evasions. I demand that the LCC and Libertad shows their finances, budgets, and taxes in record form for all to see.
Vote: yes