No Dictator Here
Thedillpickl
Hi kids!
Well, the people have spoken. Democracy shall reign supreme in Canada. I will respect the wishes of those posting to klop's referendum. There will be no coup started by me.
I paid to liberate Canada. (My cc not the governments.) That's fine. This isn't the first time I've paid for crap to hopefully make everyone's game a little better. It didn't take much beyond depositing 200k cc in my MU's account and poking the button. The determination was exceptionally high so there weren't any grand battles fought.
Takin' A Backseat
George Costanza, the perfect backseat driver!
Now Canada is on their own. If Rylde starts his own coup to take over again I will not oppose him. If another Canadian starts a coup I will not oppose. If an outsider starts a coup in a hostile take over I will not oppose. My offer to help Canada has expired. This is not to say that I'll never fight for Canada but I'll not be too concerned about dictator coups. The people have spoken now it is time to try things your way. Expect 'I told you so!' when it happens.
A Big Thank You
I was told, when 'discussing' the possibility of my dictatorship attempt, that my supporters were largely imaginary. Nonetheless I would like to take this opportunity to thank those who offered to help me.
It is not unusual for me to find those here who simply like me. I don't kiss their ass. I don't buy their affection. No promises made*. I just simply plod along, make every attempt to do what I promise and treat others as I'd like to be treated. (Golden rule 101.) I also have fun watching others have fun, so I do my best to make that happen.
*[NOTE: After reading PP's comment below I realized what I've written doesn't make sense. What I meant to say was "No outrageous promises made.". I of course do, have and will in the future make promises, just not ones that I have no intention of fulfilling.]
I've acquired many friends while aimlessly wondering about. One thing I've always done from the start was to accept anyone's friend request, friend or foe, unless they are a jerk. So unless you're a jerk...
Please Stand By...
We seem to be experiencing some technical difficulty.
To those who were expecting to fight for my coup let me assure you that plans are being made. I can't say where or when but it will happen ASAP. I apologize for the delay.
Comments
It is not unusual for me to find those here who simply like me. I don't kiss their ass. I don't buy their affection. No promises made. I just simply plod along, make every attempt to do what I promise and treat others as I'd like to be treated. (Golden rule 101.) I also have fun watching others have fun, so I do my best to make that happen.
epic words 😃
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Kill the system!
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Nooooo! But the fighting and explosions and the epic warfare... damn it...
Life is not perfect. What can I say?
What! When the hell did this happen?
and a happy Big Lebowski day to you from the...
dude
"I was told, when 'discussing' the possibility of my dictatorship attempt, that my supporters were largely imaginary."
My hyperbole when describing the factions wasn't designed to be consumed at face value, but was more a commentary on the perception of the promises being made in private against what was being shown in the media.
Then you'll never know if I was bluffing, will ya? lol
FWIW, I don't ask my friends to make me look good in articles, etc. It's up to them if they comment or not. (Some don't do English so well so I don't blame them for not reading my long ass articles. I get PMs like "What to do?", I reply "Kick their ass." and get back "OK o7". lol)
Thank you, Pickle.
Unfortunately, that "I told you so" will be coming sooner rather than later, for sure.
Yep and i wont lift a finger to help. Thats why you have klop and the gang.
Do it, Dill.
Now that my legacy as canada's only dictator is secure i think i'll take it easy for a few months. Maybe pull a Dill 2.0 and say your on your own now f*ckers. Saves me from my loans not having to wage a civil war. Thx canadian voters.
Don't think that "only dictator" thing will last long, but what do I know.
You enjoy putting words in my mouth again. What I said was that I won't interfere with any coup for dictator. I've got my original plan to go mess with some other country. Never was my original attempt to be Canadian Dictator. I saw that challenge as not really worth it.
Yes, indeed. Laugh at the people who follow your lead. Impress on them what little regard you have for the people you play this game with. Oh wait! That's right. You don't play eRep as a multiplayer game. It's all about you and we're here only to amuse you. How we doin'?
I've been very amused and it didn't cost me the expense of a civil war like originally thought. Thank you to all involved.
Lol.. Legacy. We'll send your statue to your mom's basement.
Bring forth your evidence of me living in my moms basement.
Well, you've said as much in your comments. And, as you say, you are a man of your word.
No sarcasm or jokes in your basement. Sorry bud im an apartment dweller with my knocked up gf
well, congrats on the recent move. Good reminder to ignore comments you put in articles 🙂
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"Now Canada is on their own. If Rylde starts his own coup to take over again I will not oppose him. If another Canadian starts a coup I will not oppose. If an outsider starts a coup in a hostile take over I will not oppose. My offer to help Canada has expired."
This sounds like you're taking your ball and going home. So our option was to approve installing you as a dictator or forgo any help altogether? That sounds pretty dicktatorial.
At least you're willing to go halfway when it comes to respecting democracy - you're not going to launch a coup yourself anyways. But the other part of respecting the will of the people is helping us out when we need it and not only when it suits your purpose.
Honestly, I'm having a tough time seeing much of a difference between your and Rylde's (initial) approach when it comes to dictatorship meeting democracy.
Exactly this post. I like you Pickle, but boo hoo.
No need to cry for me bro. Save your tears for when trouble comes a knockin'. lol
^ sarcasm, because I'm not boo hooing.
OK, if that's the way you want to view the situation, you do have an argument for your position. My response would be that I had previously announced that I'm going to (at least semi) retire. Suppose I need to have Anaconda take down my CP support. (done)
What the plan originally was, that I will find a way into some country that we don't get along with. Then I make my coup attempt. If successful I will dance naked in the halls of their parliament/congress/whatever and wave my ass in their faces. When finally expelled I'd come home, the remaining Pickles and I would take up residence in a special regiment of CAF and I'd while away my time helping train n00blets. No more spending $300 - $400 US to 'fix' shit. Just a nice quiet 2-clicker that helps out occasionally. I don't see spending more than 1/2 - 1 hour a day on this crap. Just enough to keep in touch with friends.
My questions to you:
Do you have a problem with my plan?
Is the stuff I dissolved to pay for my farewell party not mine?
Where is it written that Canada is my responsibility?
(and last but not least)
How many times do I need to do a billion damage to save Canada's ass until my obligation is fulfilled?
Canada has chosen to risk a hostile dictator take over. That is their privilege. My offer to fight for the new coup was rejected. As far as I'm concerned the transaction is complete and I'm free to follow my fancy. However I am up for negotiation. My offer to you is buy gold packs for me, tell me when and where to fight, I'll buy the EBs and show up if RL doesn't keep me from it.
FWIW, difference between Rylde and myself was that I only wanted one dictator medal. I consider that fair payment since I was funding the coup. After I got the medal I was to turn Pickle's Patriots over to the sitting CP and it would become Canadian property. Didn't see Rylde offer Cordis Die. I promised to push only the buttons authorized while dictator. Rylde did his own thing.
Answers:
Do you have a problem with my plan?
Nope. Seems like a decent plan. Good luck. That said, that wasn't the plan most recently presented or even mentioned above.
Is the stuff I dissolved to pay for my farewell party not mine?
(Nope, it's mine. Please give it back.) Of course it's yours to do with as you please. I would never suggest otherwise.
You know who did, though? You. You said that you were going to use your cash to help Canada. Canada politely turned you down. You're now saying that you're going to take your money elsewhere. That's your call, of course, but it's a far cry from the selflessness of the original offer as well the way you're making yourself out to be in this article - the big, rich guy who loves helping out his country. It wasn't clear to me before that you meant you're only willing to help your country if it also aligns with getting what you want.
Where is it written that Canada is my responsibility?
http://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/4085844
Four lines below your avatar pic, right below Citizenship, where it says Canada. It doesn't say that you have to blow all your cash every time but it's implied that you'll help out within reasonable limits with reasonable effort if and when your country needs you. I would consider the launching of a coup by an outside group for a hostile takeover to be one of those times when you've got to fight for that little flag.
How many times do I need to do a billion damage to save Canada's ass until my obligation is fulfilled?
The answer, my friend, is blowing in the wind.
Fight for Canada, don't fight for Canada. Ultimately, it's your call, as it is for us all. I wouldn't care to tell you what to do and I'm not here now to call your out on your decisions.
But I am calling you out on your article. You're not just tooting your own horn, you're making yourself into a hero. The liberator of Canada who doles in billions in damage for Canada and who now is saying enough. And why?
Shit. Ran out of space.
Because you're upset by the choice people made about what now appears to be an ultimatum.
Do what you want, man, but be a man when doing it. Own up to the fact that your offer hinged more on getting what you wanted than on doing what was right for Canada (or, alternatively - and this is just a suggestion - actually do what's right for Canada). Ultimately it's your call but by saying that you're respecting Canada's democratic choice but ultimately taking your money and firepower elsewhere because the vote didn't go as you wanted comes across as both a little pissy and a little petty.
Which is sad, really, because of what you've done for our country. You have done great work even without taking your wallet into account. It'd be a shame if you walked away in a huff because you can't get the medal you want handed to you on a plate.
P.S. The difference's between your and Rylde's offer aren't huge. He originally wanted two medals to your one before handing off power to the next elected CP (it's worth keeping in mind that he did win the two elections in between). He also promised a limited form of democracy through his council of PPs and Commanders (I don't know how that went in the end but I think it was running for a while).
"Own up to the fact that your offer hinged more on getting what you wanted than on doing what was right for Canada..."
In my opinion the CP being dictator was what is right for Canada. They've decided otherwise so our business is done. My plan...
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/my-shipwreck1-2514245/1/20
was announced about a month and a half ago. I touched on being dictator of Canada but it was only a lark and I wasn't talking about a coup, just moving into Cordis Die for awhile.
Since we're making observations, although you say that my stuff is my own and that I can do what I like, there is a tinge of butthurt when I say that I'll not be blowing it on Canada. Which is it? Also, are you throwin' me out of the country because I refuse to fight dictators?
Butthurt! Yes, that's the word I was missing! I was trying to point out that you seem really butthurt when the vote didn't go your way. That's exactly the right term for it. Thanks!
But no, I'm not personally butthurt. I can't care about this nearly remotely enough to be butthurt. Dictator, no dictator. Friend or foe, my life and eLife will go on. But I don't go on bragging about how great a hero I am.
I know it might seem like I care more about this than I actually do, though. I am an opinionated man and I find it easy enough to write down my thoughts so if you ask me a question - hypothetical, rhetorical or otherwise - I tend to answer.
I hope the above answered your first question. As for your second, even if I did have that power, I wouldn't kick you out unless you actively fought for the installation of a foreign dictator bent on the theft or destruction of Canada. Again, do what you want (barring treason). I wouldn't even want you to blow all your dough on one battle, here or elsewhere, but that's your call.
What I didn't like was you saying that you were just going to hang up your skates completely regardless of who starts the next coup just because everyone didn't agree with your idea. Especially after you make yourself into this big selfless man. So what is it, Liberator? Are you going to fight for Canada when it needs you or only when it suits you?
Speaking of your idea, I re-read the article you linked to. Not only is it contrary to what you said your original idea was in your comment earlier tonight (i.e. taking over an enemy country) but it seems to suggest that you were actually thinking of taking out Rylde as dictator and installing yourself in a big blaze of glory back before Rylde went rogue. It's hard to keep track of what your intentions were/are.
Another P.S.: I'm pro-benign dictatorship (enlightened despot?), too. I thought you would have made a good one and was sad to see the results of that referendum come in.
This is a good discussion between you two. Everything Chochi is saying is exactly how I read this. After all the mud slinging at Rylde it is very hypocritical that all this drama is about someone else wanting a medal.
The whole thing comes across as"I am taking my ball and going home"
I'm not going to run this out anymore. Chochi is entitled to his opinion, as are you or anyone else. My whole intent from this time forward is to be less involved in this game because, to be honest, it sucks.
Therefore I will state my position one last time (as if anyone will actually hear what I am saying).
I decided enough was enough so I made my exit plan from public life. I was (and am again) planning to take over some country that deserved it or go down trying. After my big party was over I was to retire with the rest of Pickle's that wanted to follow me into CAF. Then the Rylde dictatorship became an issue and the leadership of Canada (i.e. People who actually do stuff and don't just talk about it.) decided something must be done. I volunteered to take care of things, wouldn't ask Canada for a dime. I'd supply the fireworks and invite some friends over for the party. All I asked for my bother was one medal.
I started the revolution and things went more easily than expected because determination was very high. Then Rylde pushed for democracy after he was ousted. Odd that he didn't care for democracy when he was still dictator. Public opinion decided that it was best not to coup another dictator, we shall try democracy for awhile.
For the life of me, I don't understand the complaint against me. I agree, stop all plans to take over as dictator, explain to everyone what's going on and announce that I will not interfere with Canadian dictatorship. I offered, you refused my offer and now it is none of my business what happens.
Now I'm going to blow shit up somewhere. You can either come along and enjoy the show or not. When I'm done I won't have the resources to do it again and I'm no longer buying hundreds of dollar worth of gold per month. Canada (and admin) is getting weaned off of my teat. I'll help where needed otherwise but no more billion damage BHs. That is unless someone was to buy the gold for me, then I'd poke the fight button.
"I'm not going to run this out anymore," he wrote before writing another five paragraphs. 😛
I hear everything you're saying, dill. It's not hard to understand. I'm a little surprised that you don't get what I'm saying: you're coming off as both pompous and petty. (I really mean no offence but if you're going to be bragging about how awesome you are as a community leader we really should be seeing more results.)
Look, we're all grateful that you ponied up the $200k all on your own (not that I think either of us doubt that we'd have been able to raise it through donations if needed). But you weren't doing what you were doing for nothing. You even said so: you were doing it for a medal. That's far from nothing, especially in this current game.
And now that the vote didn't go your way, you're not willing to help Canada out anymore (I don't mean with your cash, I mean by you being neutral if/when someone tries a hostile coup). That's the hypocrisy that TBRaiders was talking about.
You can't have it both ways. You can't be a selfless leader willing to spend his own money on something for nothing when you're not only asking for something (the medal) but also not willing to help out anymore now that you can't get it. It negates everything you're saying and makes you look selfish (which I don't think that, by and large, you are - both in terms of money and damage spent). Admitting as much (if you finally see what I'm trying to say) would at least make you look a bit more humble, or honest, if not magnanimous (that'd be tough when you won't play ball with us anymore 😛).
You keep going on but your saying/doing the same thing. I am completely at a loss to understand what you'd like me to do. I offered to help Canada as I've done several times in the past. The big difference this time was that IT'S A ONE TIME ONLY EVENT. I'm not spending any major amounts of real cash on the game anymore. Do you not get that?
I said I'd do the coup to set up a new dictator. Irregardless of whether I got a medal or not (but preferably with a medal, which I was told by the duly elected CP and his cabinet which is currently in place to be just fine) I would forego having my fun elsewhere to help out Canada. Canada said NO in the recent referendum. Fine, I have no problem with that. Now I'm gonna go blow my wad doing something fun, just for me this time. When I'm done I won't be able to do major damage. So that means I can't save any rounds or turn any wars. I don't know about doing FA or helping out any administrations. I'd prefer not to be politically active, at least for awhile. I'm tired of the BS and I'm tired of spending a substantial amount of my time on something I do not enjoy any longer
So if it will put an end to your incessant ramblings of me wanting to take my ball home because I don't want to play then fine. I'm an egotistical prick who doesn't give a shit about Canada. I was only in it for the medal and I couldn't give a f what happens now. There, is that better? If it will make you feel better, when I'm done getting my medal elsewhere (or falling on my ass trying) I'll apply for cs to the US (assuming I still have some friends that run things there) and I'll retire helping their n00bs. That way no one will feel bad when I don't come in to save the day. Shhesh. .
Yep, we're good after that confession.
(I'm glad you finally figured out what I was trying to say I know that I can be a little long-winded and circle around but hey, I'm not the only one guilty of that in thread, and I was only responding to you including in my original (relatively short) comment. Everything we've said was a repetition. Well, except for your several revisions to your offer. If you had not wanted a medal from the very beginning you'd almost look good going off to fight elsewhere (except the not wanting to fight against a threat part.))
It wouldn't bother me if you stayed, though - whether you fight for us or not (although that'd also be nice).
too many pictures and words
Just do what I usually do. Skip to the comments section, read a few and then just copy what they're already saying.
Saves a lot of time and people think you're smart when really you don't have any idea what you're talking about. 😃
My hyperbole when describing the factions wasn't designed to be consumed at face value, but was more a commentary on the perception of the promises being made in private against what was being shown in the media.
Now that my legacy as canada's only dictator is secure i think i'll take it easy for a few months. Maybe pull a Dill 2.0 and say your on your own now f*ckers. Saves me from my loans not having to wage a civil war. Thx canadian voters.
Which is sad, really, because of what you've done for our country. You have done great work even without taking your wallet into account. It'd be a shame if you walked away in a huff because you can't get the medal you want handed to you on a plate.
Saves a lot of time and people think you're smart when really you don't have any idea what you're talking about. 😃
Oh i'll most likely be around if sh*t hits the fan. Just be on the sidelines for awhile accumulating funds.
Random quotes, no credit for who wrote them are meaningless. Did you have something to say?
Yay now I can sleep easy knowing the wrong buttons wont be pushed 😃
YaY!
whatever
like w/e
I'm totally not offended by that in the slightest
lol
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Talk about a case of blue balls after getting all worked up for the big event... 🙁
Yeah, I know, but don't worry I've something in the works. ^__^