[MoF] Training Contracts
Ministerie van Economische Zak
Training contracts are something the government has been trying to implement for some time now. The idea was first proposed under Notie112's term and followed up with DanielParker when he was MoF, but it never completely took off. There has been talk with congress and government officials on how to implement such a system and it has been quite helpful in developing a plan. Ultimately the duty and responsibilities fall to the MoF department to actually implement the program and setup the paramaters. Below are the guidelines we will be using for training contracts. We plan on looking at each case individually and deciding from there.
Training Contract Terms and Conditions
1. Each candidate is expected to be a citizen of Netherlands for 6 or more months.
2. A training contract will be 50% subsidy and 50% loan.
3. A training contract is expected to be payed back a minimum of 10 gold every month.
4. All training contracts have a maximum limit of 93.5 gold. (Equivalent of one full upgraded training ground during a sale)
5. Any candidate that enters a training contract must payback the amount of the loan or face blacklisting.
*All of these terms and conditions are subject to change, but they will never be changed in a way that hurts the candidate. (We will not increase the amount of the loan or increase the minimum payment amount.)
**All candidates will need to apply for said contract here: http://www.enetherlands.nl/viewtopic.php?f=101&t=12708 It is suggested that anyone interested simply apply even if they don't believe they can meet the standards of the contract.
***All candidates that undergo a contract will be listed here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmBBdzMqrIBmdHFrNkFfaGtSVjBrcm50YzlhYU9CU3c#gid=17 It is there that they can review their balances and right any errors.
Any more details that arise will be discussed with each candidate in private. The MoF department will contact each applicant with either an acceptance or denial. If accepted, they will be asked if they agree to the terms as listed above and a screenshot will be taken for our records. Please note that this is not an infallible process. It is likely there will be errors and changes made as we go about, but we want to get this program out on the road with no more delays.
Minister of Finance
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I'm missing out on the guarantors.
Won't be doing that for now.
Iedereen die het in zijn gekke bolletje haalt om niet te betalen krijgt een nachtelijk bezoek van Garmr met een moker.
Een korte sfeerimpressie;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-DiZ6iJpFU&feature=youtu.be&t=19m20s
Typische reactie weer die niets toevoegt anders dan loos geblaat. Wellicht vinden sommigen dit soort one-liners die je op heel veel verschillende plaatsen hanteert juist leuk. Ik zou het veel meer waarderen als je dit soort commentaar achterwege laat en je ervaring gebruikt om werkelijk wat toe te voegen en een echte discussie aan te gaan om zo te bouwen aan iets...
Wat voor discussie is er dan? Dit programma is nu al gestart, het is niet echt een teken van een actief congress om er dan nu pas vragen over te gaan stellen of aanpassingen te suggereren.
Die discussie is al van heel lang terug over dit onderwerp. Jij vond het te veel werk om het te lezen overigens.
Mijn opmerking was algemeen bedoeld, niet specifiek op deze one liner.
Ik verdoe mijn tijd inderdaad niet aan nutteloze discussies, dit soort dingen zijn in een dag te regelen en iedereen vindt het belangrijker om weken of maanden rustig aan te praten. Op irc geef ik plenty input, ik speel geen erep (meer) om de wereld te redden en iedereen alles uit te leggen.
irc kan ik niet veel mee., Dat is een vluchtig "medium". Wil je wat bouwen en laten beklijven moet je het vastleggen. b.v. op forum.
En ja, veel kan snel, maar daar hebben we helaas ook voorbeelden van die niet bepaald goed uitpakten. Om niet te zeggen dramatisch. Alleen maar omdat het niet besproken was maar doorgedrukt...
Alle militaire planning en diplomatiek loopt over irc, wat het voor mij het belangrijkste medium maakt. Ik hou niemand tegen om op het forum te zitten, maar dan mis je wel de kern van het spel imo. Wetten maken is leuk, maar het gaat uiteindelijk om oorlogen.
Opened a debate on this.
Voted.
I also suggest to change the name of the subsidy. Training Contracts allready excists ingame. I second Trannsvaal on the guarantors.
It should probably simply be Training loans.
I'm missing out on the earning of the gold using the proposed commune system where commune workers would earn gold in stead of only weapons. Using that wouldn't harm the eNL treasure and wouldn't let young players end up with loans they can't pay back as you don't earn enough gold to do so and sign a training contract/train the same time.
Implementing this won't solve much. Only push problems forward and create a bigger problem especially as the guarantors are skipped.
Very unwise and short-sighted this way...
I'm not sure I understand what you are referring to. Perhaps send me a PM or something to clarify.
I'm, referring to the commune system I proposed months ago. That included gold payment for those players that didn't have their TF at max. It's on forum. If I recall correct you even asked to make a copy from the original one to make sure it wouldn't get lost. I have no possibility to look it up as I'm on holiday and also only sparsely attending erep.
Cool. It is time to downgrade my training facilities, pay off my loans and apply for this subsidy.
The MoF can deny your request for any reason they like, even reasons not mentioned above.
So if they can see you downgraded that probably is a good reason for denial...
But nice that you brought this up. 🙂
Otherwise they might've skipped a few relevant checks 😉
There is nothing in the rules about this. That's not fair, if that happens I will be in even more debt than before.
I've pointed out time and again that it is nearly impossible to make all our laws 'loophole-proof', so we should base a lot of our decisions on common sense.
djirtsdew has it right.
Well, it says "The MoF department will contact each applicant with either an acceptance or denial."
It does not really say what they base it on, so that can be anything...
Don't worry I was only Joking, I belong to the DAF so after the last tournament, I have plenty gold to spare.
I already thought you were joking...
But I nevertheless should discourage everyone from trying weird stuff like downgrading. 😉
dont try me 🙁
Guys, I have a simple question: I have enough gold to buy the second Training Facility full. Now I can get a loan for the 3rd TF, full. This will cost me daily 1.08 gold for training at 50 (51.8 to be exact). every 4.83 days I gain 5 gold, but I will never be able to repay the gold. A training contract won't help, since it costs more then it benefits.
What to do?
I would wait until you only need the 4th training ground. Unfortunately the 3rd training ground is a limbo state that isn't worth it until you have the 4th complete. Training max with the 1st and 2nd will actually earn you gold.
yes train at 1+2 until u can afford 1+2+3+4+90%
Upgrade 3rd last, and don't forget you also earn gold from various other medals.
Upgrade the 4th before the 3rd. It is more useful if you get a 99% contract from an event... (Not that it is likely to happen). Also, in combination with a 50% contract it makes some sense (although it will still not be profitable).
Good initiative to boost our military force!