United Front's Response to Recent Events
Major Lee Hung
Dear eCanadians,
This article is long overdue - the purpose is to provide our official viewpoint & responses to various prominent issues that have come up in the past week.
PTOers
The facts alone stand to prove our point on this matter. The accusation originated from 2 prominent citizens who I'll avoid naming, and both have changed their argument as follows:
-We were first accused of being a pro-eUK PTO, the eUK community can probably speak for me on this one, I'm not exactly a popular person there and spent more time in places like eAustralia than I did in the eUK. Our former-eUK citizen members are the same.
(Fun fact, I was actually eBorn in eCanada on Mansbridge09's referral link)
-We're now accused of being a PTO (anti-eUK now may I add) of a yet to be named organisation.
The illogical sequence of these developments, and the fact that they can't name who we "work" for, render this whole argument invalid. No defence is required on a point that holds no merits.
The unnamed members on the other hand have had no issues with PTOing other parties to allow them to take presidency - for themselves.
PTO of United Front
The evidence of this is in circulation; a credible, significant threat faces the very existence of United Front. We have friends and allies ready to mobilise in the event it goes ahead, and we'll retaliate against any attempts to PTO us.
"An an for an eye".
Immigration
We recently held an aggressive bargaining position on immigration legislation; it's something we can't afford to be disadvantaged by. It turns out our adversaries aren't skilled in negotiation and took it as an attack, not a negotiation position.
Unfortunately in the world of business and even real life politics, this is the way difficult negotiations are done - extremities are taken until a mutually acceptable compromise is agreed. We'll be happy to negotiate further when the other parties calm down. If you want to be successful in life, take note of these tactics.
L I G H T S
Bruce Lightninghands let this citizen in and he joined the United Front on his own initiative. We remain neutral on the position, however we do disagree with Bruce Lightninghands' attempts to deflect any problems on us.
The "President"
We will no longer be recognising Bruce Lightninghands as president until circumstances change, and thus won't acknowledge his authority. Our members will now be governed by the Communist Otriad.
Reasons:
-His recent article implies he believes only his coalition hold valid views, as they make up the "majority". (Unfortunately for him, 200 is NOT a majority) He therefore doesn't stand for anybody else, and thus we mutually return this logic.
-His open declaration of the United Front as "one of his problems" and a threat to eCanada will be addressed - we're no longer his problem and instead a problem of the Otriad.
You don't like this? Then good sir, I suggest you reverse your decision to exclude the "minority" of the community and decide to represent more than just the majority, as a president should.
This is a good opportunity for you to begin to learn important life skills in leadership, don't waste it by refraining from showing any.
DMV3
To address DMV3's various shenanigans...
Your most recent article is unfortunate. It however has nothing to do with your personal feud with Leo Balzac. If you start tension with somebody, deal with it yourself. The community does not need to be involved in a personal problem. Playing the emotional card is a poor tactic if you don't utilise it properly & covertly, and is in fact disrespectful to those who have too lost somebody close.
Not everything is a conspiracy. The United Front hasn't changed, we'll always be a place for the little guy to develop and the old guy to share his expertise with them. How you draw a parallel between this and us being a PTO isn't healthy. Take a break, log in less each day, find a new hobby - you're getting too drawn in.
Future Actions - Ceasefire
The United Front offers a ceasefire on the following terms:
Our Demands:
-Should he accept, Klop123 will be our point of negotiation with the "Coalition". He's the only citizen I've come across who opposes us while holding the emotional maturity to deal with it properly, meaning we can actually get somewhere.
-Attacks on the UF that extend beyond standard disagreements & debate will result in the agreement terminating.
What we Offer:
-The United Front won't run a candidate at the next CP election to ease the PTO fears.
-United Front won't attack any other party.
-United Front will return to immigration negotiations with a less intensive bargaining tactic.
We're all just regular humans with a separate life, playing a browser game to pass the time. If you get too involved in the game and let it affect you, your life isn't going to go the way you want. Behind every profile is a real person - remember that.
Comments
Power to the Communist Otriad 😃
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8EMx7Y16Vo
Well done Comrade
Why is L I G H T S controversial? Sorry, have no idea.
because I have a girl avatar 😮
I've actually wondered that too o.O
Your decision to declare war on the Canadian public has been noted, Prince Sheogorath.
Nope - not the eCanadian public. Just you.
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http://youtu.be/pe8eKPRgnTw?t=11m7s
Why don't you focus on the real war against the UK instead of looking for enemies in your own country?
We should fight togehter as a country and with our portuguese allies and you just spend your time talking about us.
You have never contacted any of us to know anything about our intentions or goals and now you declare us enemies,shameful,,you only search your own purposes and the rest is totally irrelevant for you.I know you won and your coalition too,but actually any candidate of the coalition woud have won,you are not special you are just a guy who was choosen because nobody else wanted to run.If a newbie runs for the CP supported by your coalition,he will probably win as the CPF has the power,not you nor your Imperial Wolves.
Refusing to acknowledge the legitimacy of a leader who openly attacks his party does not equal declaring war on eCanada. The allegations you and your party/parties have made against Sheogorath and his people have no basis in fact.
All parties in eCan have their share of disreputable foreigners and malcontents. Some are newer and higher-profile than others.
Political opposition is not the same thing as treason or "declaring war on the Canadian public," no matter how unpopular that opposition might be with the CPF and IW. MDP also disagrees with the recent immigration reform and wishes to see it reworked - this does not make us traitors.
Your position does not allow for such blatant partisanism. ALL sides must be heard, and not dismissed out of hand because of personal bias or the weight of popular opinion. That is your job, and you are not doing it.
I am a part of the Canadian public along with the rest of the MDP, TMS, and Pirate Party, along with every other party not in the Coalition's members and unaffiliated ecanadians. No war has been declared on us. Therefore the majority of the Canadian public has no war with Prince.
He raises fair points calmly and politely and makes reasonable demands and offers terms in return.
How did this get so delicious in such a short space of time?
Aspartame my friend, it's everywhere!
~hyuu~
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you owe me 10cc Leo
"Our Demands:
-Should he accept, Klop123 will be our point of negotiation with the "Coalition". He's the only citizen I've come across who opposes us while holding the emotional maturity to deal with it properly, meaning we can actually get somewhere." - Okay, reasonable.
"-Attacks on the UF that extend beyond standard disagreements & debate will result in the agreement terminating." - Why? Sounds a bit weak imo..
"What we Offer:
-The United Front won't run a candidate at the next CP election to ease the PTO fears." - Don't care really.
"-United Front won't attack any other party." - Well, that sounds weak too.. What's eCanadian politics without "The Bad Guy"? Look, if you want the #2 party rank, be prepared for the Drama Llama.
"-United Front will return to immigration negotiations with a less intensive bargaining tactic." - All you wanted was equal party representation in the council. All we told you was that it's not a Partisan issue, and that we are keeping politics out of the damn thing. That isn't to say a UF member won't be appointed to the Council, just that no party will have a specific piece of the pie.
As for ignoring Bruce's authority, Need I remind you he won a democratic election? Have a problem with that? Get one of your members to propose an Impeachment. Don't write an article betching about it.
Actually we are discussing that possibility even known it won't pass.
Why won't it pass? Certainly Bruce doesn't have the majority. Right? At least that's what I hear out of the UF Propaganda machine.. I mean if Bruce doesn't have the majority, then it should pass no problem!
Lelouch,Can I call you Lelouch?.We are both quite experienced guys,we know that congress members just listen to thei rparties orders and you have the majority,I mean the CPF.But we both know as well,that in democratic system the minority can't be ignored or discriminated and that's what's actually happening here.
You can pass the law with ease, sure, but it's meaningless if you're the only party abiding by it.
do that and he is safe for 7 days
You say immigration is not a partisan issue and then DMV goes around asking other MUs to come join him and his party because we (the UF) are somehow a threat from the eUK. That makes it a partisan issue. You can't have us believe that you will regulate immigration fairly without giving us representation.
Why are you opposing that we be represented anyway ? What is wrong with the top 5 parties all having someone on the board?
The legislation, MY legislation is unbiased and not a partisan piece of legislation. It has nothing to do with the recent accusations coming out of some members of the CPF. As I've stated before, I may have a CPF brand, but I'm neutral in all this PTO BS...
I'm not just opposing your party's involvement. It's all around. No representation from any party. I've said this. Dill's said this. I can't count how many times it's been explained to you guys! Ittl be an nonpartisan council that is completely independent of any party bias or agenda. When we start giving UF representation, and PFC Representation, etc..., it begins losing its integrity and non-bias.
This has been repeated time, and time again.
Why only the top 5? I thought we were trying to avoid excluding any minorities?
The whole point of a ceasefire is to end aggression. It might be "weak" but it's just what a ceasefire is. It's your party that ends up seemingly most affected by our return-attacks; it benefits not us, but you if you agree.
"Why? Sounds a bit weak imo.." - Why should UF settle for anything less than the respect given to other parties?
"All you wanted was equal party representation in the council. All we told you was that it's not a Partisan issue, and that we are keeping politics out of the damn thing. That isn't to say a UF member won't be appointed to the Council, just that no party will have a specific piece of the pie." - Except CPF. You'll pardon those of us who worry that the CPF will attempt to appoint only their own people to permanent positions that gain unilateral control over one aspect of eCan government. All in the name of "popular vote." And doesn't our CP get to pick his own personal appointee to the committee, despite having a clear personal grudge against UF and MDP? Explain to us how that is "keeping politics out of the damn thing."
"As for ignoring Bruce's authority, Need I remind you he won a democratic election? " - We certainly didn't vote for him. And his policy of "unity" only extends to three major parties - the rest of us are "problems" unless we kowtow to the will of the select few at the "top." The ones who supposedly believe in democracy and all that other stuff. Your popularly-elected CP has shown himself to be blatantly partisan, and that is not what the position demands.
One of the main reasons why I don't really see an Immigration Council working. How do we select the bench without being bias, like you said, but that goes for all parties.
I think eCanada is like an old man who needs help :/
Close. eCanada is like an old man that overdosed on his viagra.
hahahhahahahahhahahahahahahahaha,i can't stop laughing
Impeach me, Sheogorath. I dare you. Hell, I'll even vote for it. Come on, you know you want to. Impeach me. I'm so sure you're the minority that you will fail, which will dispel all your propaganda, but hey: I'm curious to see where this will go.
And yes, there has been a war declared on Canada. I am the democratically-elected head of state, and the symbol of the nation. Most people in this country want me to lead them, that's why I'm President and, say, yst31 is not. 119 verified people said "I want me some Lightninghands" and it was so.
If you don't recognize me, fine, but you're in the minority - but, as you've been prattling on about for the last week, if UF represents the opinions of the true majority of Canada, impeach me. If you are right, it'll pass, and eCanada will be liberated from my "tyrannical regime".
Do it. I dare you. I double dare you. When it fails, I expect your sorry excuse for a party filled with bribed neophytes and eIrish thieves to be quiet and let eCanadians get back to business. Your disruptive actions have caused an unnecessary divide in Canada, and I think it's clear at this point the United Front are no longer welcome here.
I take back what I said about opportunity - the first step is reaching the age of 16 and learning basic lessons on communicating with humans from there. 🙂
You weren't democratically elected. You brown-nosed two others parties to hold a majority. Democracy DOESN'T including persecuting minorities because you aren't mature enough to handle disagreement. You possess no leadership skills at all and frankly I think you're a joke of a choice for president - but that's just me.
Posting an impeach vote will only prove my point. (Except we'll be forum banned too!)
The "eIrish thief" you let in. They aren't bribed - yes we used money at first. In business it's called penetration pricing, and once we hold a large market share or an established brand it holds no positives, thus we don't do it anymore.
We haven't done anything to cause the divide, you've done this yourself and now you can't handle the fact that we bite back.
Have fun, fellow citizen. 🙂 Glory to the Otriad!
HA
As I expected, I called your bluff, and you winced and turned away. This is supreme cowardice, the kind I've come to expect from you and your bribed cronies. Need I get someone to propose the impeachment myself? You know right well you're too tiny to have any real power. You know your party is built on a mountain of lie. You know you've wasted very real money on failure, hoping to succeed in an at best fictional way.
This is why you need this. This is why you fight so hard to try to defeat the CPF. You've wasted so much on your failure, Sheogorath, and have exposed yourself and your supporters as failures, bent only on causing trouble and disrupting Canada.
Impeach me, or be silent, Sheogorath; or to be blunt: put up or shut up.
If you want to compete on numbers, you need only say. 🙂 Then we will see how this impeachment goes.
And..
a.) If you can afford to buy a little gold, why not? The dangers of Capitalism 😃
b.) As DMV can tell you, we receive significant amounts of cc in donations from friends.
I've never tried to defeat the CPF or any party for that matter.
Try harder fellow citizen, bow to the Otriad!
"Impeach me or be silent."Hail Democracy.
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Hell, I'd take the forum ban and propose it myself.. Just to see voter turnout..
If you do that,I would encourage our members to vote no,I don't want you to suffer for us ;P
Actually Prince explained my point.Even a newbie supported by the CPF would have won.
Tell that to my 2 failed running's for CP under the CPF brand 😑
When you run the MDP had like 100 members now the CPF has 30 members more than the second party,run now and you'll win.That's for sure and I prefer you as a president rather than Bruce...
I hope you realize that by alienating the entire party based four peoples actions isn't really fair to the others in the party. Your blind aggression and or hatred towards UF makes it harder for player to get out of this mess quietly.
Well said! *clap clap clap*
How does a CP have any real authority over anyone? He has got a few extra buttons. I here a lot of noise from both sides and I don't care for any of it.
We put a label on someone, so you don't have to actually discuss what they say.
There is no formal coalition to negotiate with.
The CPF party has never endorsed or participated in a PTO of another party and won't in the future.
I just hope you will all continue to help getting rid of the actual UK. We need to start focusing on the real enemy again, and forget about all the drama.
Don't doubt that we will contribute,as any decent Canadian,to fight the UK, opressor of the eCanadian lands.
And as the next (probably) PP of the UF I don't close the door to negotiate with your party,but never with Bruce,if you want to.
He rambles on about how he's in control and how he's the authority - we don't recognise this.
Just because it hasn't been formally/officially announced yet doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
We're laying down plenty of damage against RL UK, it's no WE who are the bad guys.
eUK, not sure how RL got in!