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It's funny you act like you 'care' about our country. If you did, you would adjust your behaviour for the sake of our country. You are at least as bad as odan.

Why so agressive? Why not looking for solutions? Why attacking instead of cooperating? If you want to change something, you have to work together and not try to divide the country more than it already is. Unity is needed. That means doing concessions to come together and as a big group we can make a change.

Because I'm tired to read fancy shi.... from you and others just to realise there's any change in anything, if you want fairy tales go read a tale or next cp candidacy speech.

I said please 😊😘

It's not fancy, it's just trying to be as reasonable as possible to ensure normal conversation. I can also shout and scream about my own thoughts on how things should be. If I did that, noone would listen and I would end up blacklisted.

With being unreasonable you end up only with some people who also are unreasonable and do only want to stir thing up. Nothing more than attention seekers is what people will think when they see opinions like this. Which means noone will take it seriously, which means noone will see this as a real solution.

Of course, your perspective and your stance on is important and can make a difference, but then you have to read through all the accusations and bull shit in your articles and opinions. Which almost noone does anymore. And if they do and are taking your position seriously, they will get most likely a same sort response which will encourage them to agree with you or pay any attention to what you say.

I would say, try expressing yourself without the populist rethoric, and you'll see people take you a lot more seriously. We are desperate in need of people who are able to represent your view in a serious way (this means writing 'fancy shit' so everyone is bored at the end).

You are the best example of the people who discuss in circles and not solve anything.

That's right. You can't solve things without support. I don't want to change things if people don't agree. I'm not implementing things that other don't want. I rather look for solutions that everyone wants, or else taking the long way and first introduce people to the concept of the solution I support to create more support.

In practice this means I could say I've helped to solve things in the past. But you can't do it alone, nor with a group who thinks the same to overrule the group who thinks completely different.

Then start a discussion out of the forum to replace odan and co. by impartial people since they are the ones implementing things than others don't want. Pretty simple, right?

I'm thinking about that, but who will take over? I don't know. Probably blackpatje, which won't help solving anything (makes it maybe even worse). So I've decided to support a MoNC when it happens, and otherwise wait till the next elections.

Also I'm not the one who is most against odan. He's doing most of the time the job he has to do according to what congress expects him to do. But he's doing also controversial things, which means he's bad for our country.

With the forum leave of ReL and GPN, I doubt there is a majority to remove odan from office, which is sad. I only try when I know it will work.

He abuses of his position as admin, he's the cancer who started this situation, and there's someone capable to do that job aka Walhalla.

well gpn didn't completly boycot the forum. and well i already said i would not automatically rerun for CoC, but then again i also didn't run right away last time. but since nobody wanted the job....

And you seem to have problems seeing what positions are kimi. i've never abused my admin position.

Yes you did it multiple times deleting and closing comments/topics, also you were an obstacle in different discussions with your poor intervention as CoC, and not happy with that and after all your fails now you have showed the same behaviour in an official channel of eRepublik aka eSwitzerland.

closing topics is not abuse. and i believe you can't even keep people separate. since most of your posts/comments weren't even deleted by me....

and i don't see the need to bring another country into this, it has no bearing on anything that involves my rights/job in eNL.

Stop the irony, you abused of your positions and now look what you've done, and yes I bring another country to show them that when you have access to commands you just start to abuse, pretty simple.

If you start to learn the meaning of abuse i'll respond on that accusation. now for you being banned on yet another channel on irc. the ones that gave me those rights even applauded me for banning you.

You just ban because your intellect don't make you improve anything, and as result we have abuse. Btw you just can't manage power because you lost your moral and impartiality, it's really sad.

Since I don't really know you yet, I'll have a serious reply.

I feel a major issue is the way congress is elected. It doesn't represent the votes, and therefore it doesn't matter that much where you seat your congress, it's always severely flawed.

While I'll agree it's not helpful when congress members are blacklisted, and therefore your voice should also be heard, blocking odan makes it just as skewed, just the other way around. I think it's better the have a system where there are fewer loopholes and opportunities to grab more power than you are supposed to have. That's how we fix it. Reform the forum, rather than replace it with something that works just as badly as it does currently.

But I don't want to block him, I want him without any ANY right to moderate or administrate something with commands to avoid future abuses.

Oh, in that case I agree. However, I still think a forum is an easier place to use than discord. Discord seems to be a chat system more than anything and more suited to replace IRC than a forum. Why would discord work in place of a forum?

Take the app as an example, but until the day that forum stop to exist or the current administration change the forum is not a solution.

Removing rights from me or anybody else doesn't mean you will just be allowed back everywhere kimi. you are excluded from everything by the will of congress.

Also discord is nice for internal chatting, but it won't replace irc for international talks. especially not with the low amount of people that actually visit discord.

Please leave the country, you are destroying it, thank you.

Why should i leave my country? A country i've been a citizen of since 2008. Actually never left it, one of the few that can claim that.

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Because odan your constants abuse ended with a country divided. Please leave!!! Makes us a favour, not even in DAF like you, and that's hard to achieve lol

lol the country has been divided for years. that is just politics. if everybody said the same thing and did the same thing it would be pretty boring.

and well daf just following mod orders.

Again you just abused of a position that simply don't correspond to you.

You should all watch x-men in the cinema.. apply it to this situation and you'll see that alone you're weak. We need every active citizen to partake in running the country. This month NL proved weak i hope next month there is a team running this nation.

Ps. The x-men movie is a recommendation 🙂

X men is about a racial fight between two groups, so no you are wrong! And you failed with that example. Try better next time, thank you.

Hahaha alright I'll try again sometime

WAZAAAAHHHH!!!!

Yo yo

The forum has been a joke since forever, and the fact that you guys seem so delusional about ingame congress chat/party chat etc shows how you guys are lacking in any sort of real leadership. You can say anything about what Aaaseilern is doing, yet I see how he is making sense. No doubt some of you will try to hold on to their non existance corrupt leadership.

He may be heavy on his words and in the past and you guys claim he is doing nothing to this country. Yet it is proven that congress/party/military threads are working ingame and debates are held.

Carry on your work, Aaaseilern. 🙂

Marcus Sergius / Lord Holfex.

a person that visited the forum a few times but never actually participated on it. not really sure you are the person to say anything about it.

and in-game pm threads are a joke... it gets very messy, no way to add everyone in it, no way to edit or administer it. sure it might work for a quick military update amongst commanders/gov, but it is never going to be suitable for having anything resembling an actual debate.

''a person that visited the forum a few times'' I never was active in your forum or any other forum I have signed up for. I have been in countries where I been in congress where it is ingame. You talk about how to edit or administer it shows you want to hold on to precious power. Who knows maybe this guy is actually right about you.

Also love the fact you had to mention my 2 former names.

If only you knew how hard it was back when I was in Australia where debates where held every single day, and monitored. You are just trying to hold onto whatever power you have with your editing skills. No wonder this country is falling apart. You should probably congratulate yourself on that, as I think I am slowly believing Aaaseilern words more than yours. 🙂

yes edit or administer. like moving posts out of 1 debate that have no point being there into another debate or a new one, or for example removing swearing. and if you want to do it in-game in your country that is fine, but that is not the way it is done in ours. and also not how it is done in the majority of the countries in erep.

and yeah i wanted to see who you where so i looked it up.

I'm not trying to hold onto my CoC powers actually, i already said i wouldn't run next term, and didn't even want to run in the first place this term. but since nobody wanted to do the job i felt myself compelled to do it.

Irony has no limits with odan.

once again. perhaps you need to open up a dictionary and learn what words mean?

IRONYYYY IRONYYYYYY

your not a sales rep for the discord app, i bet you are? it looks interesting nonetheless.

Nooe, I just think Discord is a nice app, but any other way of communication could work, it depends of the administration and impartiality by both parts

I'm just kidding. but yeah, seems like a nice and useful app.