Drunken Musings | IRExit, A long time coming
Rusty D
Greetings eIreland and further afield,
Well today I thought I would add my own 2 cents into the IRExit that is currently happening. This is something that is being spoken about in some shout feeds, telegram and of course inside of EIRE. It is also something that has been debated many times in the past of eIreland, but only now the trigger is being pulled.
NOTE: This is just my own personal view of the current political and international issue.
This topic of eIreland breaking away from the CODE alliance, is not a new one at all. It is something that has been discussed in the hallow halls of Teach Laighean, where Irish congress ministers have spoken about CODE, both on a positive note and on a negative note for sometime. Some of these discussions have been raised publicly, even by my own self after I finished my December term as PM: CP Farewell and by the incoming CP in his own articles.
Basically as the title suggest's IMO this move has been a long time coming, but it is something that hasn't been rushed. After my December term, the incoming CP, Warbhoy, had tried to get eIreland a "better deal" from CODE, not only in the sense of Ireland actually being thought as an equal, but trying to fix the many issues we all saw at the time, that CODE had. Written about it here: A Long Update.
So to those who think this decision has been quick, I hope you now know it has been something that has been brewing for quite a while now.
As stated in my final CP address back in the first week of January, there was a lot of issue's seen within eIreland, of CODE as a whole. This is not a reflection any one country or person, but a combination of factors and events that made eIreland feel unwanted and neglected... basically made us, as a country feel like a disposable toy for CODE.
I mean, we can only just look at CODE's own statement on their alliance page to see that the way eIreland feels and has been handled, is incorrect.
Statement 1:
This statement is far from correct... well in RL you could say no family gets along, but this is a simulated world. The fact Ireland has raised concerns on multiple times, only to be shot down or basically ignored, shows that CODE doesnt act like a family, it acts only for the few elitist people in the organisation.
Statement 2:
This has only been the case occasionally for eIreland, but one of the main issues we saw, was never addressed, no matter what we did for our "Family". From where I sat, it was more about how the smaller members could serve those who wanted to be in control, be it with bad strategic moves or to help those players/countries expand their own bank balance.
Statement 3:
Mutual respect is a two way street, so is understanding. When in December Ireland launched a military campaign against the UK, CODE's response was one of horror and actual threats against Ireland. Even though we went to war for a sole purpose that was explained to CODE when Ireland (one of the founding nations) help create CODE. Instead we faced the wrath of some players/countries who saw this as an act of aggression against their hip pockets, and even had one nation threatening to try and wipe Ireland, one of it's member nations.
Even after Warhboy came to power and tried to settle things down, to make Ireland feel more inclusive, this was shot down only a few months later and CODE went back to serving the elitist in the group.
Statement 4:
Well this is a real funny statement. Considering Ireland has never had any support in our choice of military campaigns, even though we have always been ready to launch an AS or do an attack to help out the "elite" countries of CODE. That is because eIreland still see's our want to help others as a fundamental part of what Ireland stands for. But after a while, enough is enough.
That is what eIreland had hoped for and had thought. However while I was on the frontline of seeing CODE for it's true value, back in December, I have been on the sidelines looking in since then. I have seen the way Ireland has tried to be treated as a equal, the way CODE has made empty promises, time and time again. As they say "a leopard never changes its spots" and CODE has not changed. Maybe some people inside it, does want change, maybe some countries do want change, but they are easily over ruled by those who covert the power and control of the alliance.
Today saw the vote take place for IRExit, but before the vote was launched, it was brought up once more in congress, to be discussed. And while I tend to prefer to keep my congress messages, to congress, I do want to make my statement public. This will help answer some already "assumptions" that have been thrown out their in the media and feeds:
"This is my 2 cents on the subjects at hand, whether or not it is worth it:
Bulgarian AS
In my view as stated beforehand, I didnt agree with it. I did however hit when I could (not much as I am not running packs or anything). With the way CODE has been for many months now, I believe we would of been doing more damage to ourselves then we would be doing for our benefit. Yes I know being a part of an alliance is not about ourselves, but others, however CODE has in the past shown that we are just a tool to them to be taken advantage of when it suits.
CODE
My views on CODE are the same as they were when I was last CP (I think I wrote an article about it). Yes, some member nations do have our back and help us out when they can. But these member nations do this, not due to the alliance, but due to friendship built between senior/influential players. This friendship will still remain if we leave CODE.
We have on numerous occasions done CODE's bidding for them, tanked when we were active, put our necks out there when asked, even if it was for stupid strategic decisions or things that didnt suit us. We asked about our wishes and told them what we wanted from CODE, this was ignored many times. Even after we brought it up into the limelight. Afterwards we were told it will be spoken about and worked towards. Many months later, it is still a non-issue.
IMO leaving CODE is still something we should of done months ago. I would love to see us leave now. But in saying that, I know we have just painted a target on our backs, not only with Bulgaria, but with their friends. In saying this, I would still would choose to leave. CODE has shown that it will never change it's attitude to Ireland, we are just cannon fodder for them, a throw-away toy of theirs.
In reference to the new SG, Furious Lady, I dont mind her being there (but it has been a while since I have chatted with her), in the past, even when she was in MKD, I had good relations with her and other MKD players. Maybe because my RL citizenship or the fact I am a bit more diplomatic, I am not 100% sure. However an SG does not make an alliance, one person in charge will not change the fact Ireland is disregarded as second class to CODE and CODE as whole is controlled to benefit a few elite players.
This is pretty much the best way to wrap up the view of CODE and where I sit today. All in all, over the past 4 months of working towards a better deal, it has been very lacking.
Well as you saw from my statement in Congress, I believe we will have a target painted on our backs, not from those who we attacked while helping CODE out, but maybe even from some member states inside of CODE, after all they have threaten it before. So does this bother me at all.... No, we have built up many friendships in the past and I know, friendship is a stronger bond, then "pretend" alliances. These friendly "power" players, have always given hits for Ireland, rallied their own forces to help Ireland, because they know the true meaning for friendship and understand Ireland will be there for them.
Worse case is we are attacked, hell, maybe even wiped for a period. This alone is not a great threat to me. I have been many countries that have been wiped at one time or another and it is a great motivator for those citizens to rise up, increase their activity and fight back. Many nations who have set foot on Irelands sacred soil, know full well, when Ireland is down, that is when we are at our strongest.
With this said, I will leave you with an image from a RL Irish War Poster from WW1.
Your humble servant,
Rusty D
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Please read the linked articles in it, to give your more of a historic view of the IRExit.
It might of taken us a while (not as long as BREXIT), but we did try and work for the betterment of CODE.
Well, i still dont support this decision... Game is already "non-alive" , and CODE is not that serious organization. Ireland lost toooo many players, maybe just 10 left? And some other countries the same. The only thing now is having fun. I'm not active, but i dont see any elitist and up-scale people which is you %100 wrong bro, you know i like you but after all pls dont get this game tooo serious. Its already done. Even alliances... I don't think it's the place to write these things in here, it's unfair to other friends.
Maybe elitist is the wrong word to be used or is being mis-understood. I dont mean elitist as in rich or 'up scale', but ones who are power players and use CODE for their own means.
If CODE is "not a serious organisation", there is no need for anyone to be bothered by us being there or not being there.
Tldr 😛
Yeh cannae read cause yer tick ha
Short version, CODE is more about nepotism, rather then inclusive. Think back to Suharto back in mid 90's, but like how he ran Indo.
Oof, snap! 😛
I miss Mbah Harto so much..
I miss my old VCD shop back in '98 when they burnt it down in Jarkata :'( or the fact we had to flee out of Jarkata at that time.
Excellent article
o7
Good bye friends, someday we will meet again in British lands o/
In Rusty I trust.
This article is so much full of sh*t - Code serving the elitist group of ppl!?? What are you talking about? So much propaganda to hide the fact that you have not contributed at all to the efforts of other Code members in any concrete way from the moment Code was publicly announced. Your only agenda was to have war with UK without goal or purpose. In comparison even Egypt who was not a member participated more actively in our mutual efforts to beat our Asterian enemies.
You did not mention the fact of South Africa's tw fiasco - because of which your leadership cut ties with one of the most important Code members and this happened in summer 2019, you have no tws with any code member for more then six months - whose purpose that serve and what was your role in Code for entire last year?
Cut this bull.. guys. You are three player political country that cannot control its two non-political tanks how to fight in a way beneficial for it allies. Your AS to Bulgaria was useless because it was decided by your CP without prior consultation and he was told twice not to vote it - and now you use that AS as propaganda that Code forced you to attack Bulgaria in nonsense campaign. It is just a typical way Ireland cooperated with rest of Code - making military tactical moves on its own that never made any sense.
If you want to leave - pls leave and shut the door behind you - but do not lie and offend other ppl you once claimed to be your allies!
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lol, thanks for the laugh.
Egypt: I was in Telegram when the majority of CODE didnt want them to join, I actually supported their application, since I have always had good relations with Egypt.
South Africa: Our AS on NL was on behalf of CODE to draw damage away so CODE could do what ever it they were trying to do in South Africa (the article linked above showed it and here is another one: https://www.erepublik.com/en/article/eireland-cp-netherlands-holdiay-2710362 )
So yeah, I must be wrong and your right lah dee dah, carry on.
"you have no tws with any code member for more then six months"
Yet again you have shown you have no clue..
- Albania is not a CODE country?
- Thailand is not a CODE country?
"the fact that you have not contributed at all to the efforts of other Code members in any concrete way from the moment Code was publicly announced. "
Seriously, do you want me to list every time we did an AS for CODE and if you had clues about battles you know we tanked where we could and when asked.
But yes, I am the one preaching propaganda. All you have proven is the fact citizens of CODE like yourself dont see anything when you look at eIreland, you just see us the way you want and you believe your own falsehoods.
While I agree the article could be more calmly written (even though it wouldn't be Rusty then) I dislike your comment much more. Regardless, of how I feel towards you or other allies in there.
We had TW's with CODE members (Albania the latest one) which were stopped because the walls were constantly overhitted. Now we have proCODE Finland and the first time ever neutral Indonesia. If that's a big problem while USA is allowed to have what they have.
During just past few months we've made 6 (SI😵 Airstrikes, each one was made to help CODE somehow. We've also offered our regions to allies that needed them, while we had more than 3 political players as you say we've been organizing airstrikes for our allies non stop. I'd be much happier knowing this was appreciated as it often changed the walls. But, I guess this is the reason we're leaving in the first place.
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Ireland contributed as much as we could. We could attack more countries directly, but that wouldn't make any sense considering our ground damage. We had Airstrikes to block things whenever we were asked to make one, we've never rejected to help someone. Not a single time. We fought in air rounds a lot too, when we had the bigger numbers. Everyone does whats in their abilities.
Sure there were a few things we could do better, but that's not the main problem for the alliance. As for the train tactics, it's expected as that's what the game offers, no problem with that either, no matter what side. Train strategy can be broken the same way it's done, if Asteria could break ours then CODE can break theirs too. That's what we were suppose to do with most of the Airstrikes anyway.
But yeah, most of the things are meaningless nowadays...
I agree that eIreland didn't contribute much, that the eIrish always wanted things that were irrelevant or ultimately even harmful to the alliance. Yet I don't think Code was particularly successful in convincing other people about its cause, and you can't just expect everyone to be loyal to the death. Even if you don't make any compromise, just the way of communication can prevent a lot of later problems.
And I can confirm Code definitely appears to be the entertainment of a limited number of packed players - in fact the whole erep is that, so maybe it's just that eIreland can't participate anymore, our game ended and we are out of it. Code's fun revenge on Asteria was at least as meaningless from long term alliance viewpoint as Ireland's wars, you introduced dirty train wars to the game, acceeded to the cynicism of Asteria about bots by accepting two of their bot countries, what you did was living up the moral capital you had over them and you are now down to their level. What would make an outsider care about this, someone who is not a participant of the inner Codean-Asterian circle's personal conflicts, Hand Solo, Titan DC, Rand Al Cauthon, Goldenreborn, etc? Even me who cared find it meaningless now.
Sorry I rewrote my post because of typing error...
MUFC, in my opinion eIreland lacked alliance discipline, even before the creation of Code, it was always hard to keep eIreland in line and make the country produce the expected conduct. By this I mean less doing something useful, more to prevent doing something harmful, like the war against North Korea, the wars against UK, or like now, leaving the alliance. I am not saying the Irish are not loyal, they just wanted to play their own game, just like the alliance was playing its own game, and the two things had less and less in common.
Yeah, I agree we did some moves which weren't authorized, like NK AS and UK. But none of that really affected alliance in a bad way except draining our own forces. None of those wars weren't supported by the alliance either, so no help has been sent - which is fine. It'd be wrong to say we did something harfmul. It had a reason for us, kept us active.
But to generalise and say we didn't contribute is also very sad and wrong idea.
Also:
"Your AS to Bulgaria was useless because it was decided by your CP without prior consultation and he was told twice not to vote it - and now you use that AS as propaganda that Code forced you to attack Bulgaria in nonsense campaign"
Don't make me bring logs in which I was asked to do it.
I still didn't manage to find where I was asked to vote it down, either way I wasn't pinged, no message were sent. I'm not going through the 300 messages on the alliance channels when most of them aren't serious. Second time I was asked it was already 1 minute and 20 seconds before the law has passed.
I don't agree with the article note that we were forced, but it's very wrong to say it was made by us individually, I didn't even check the map to see why we're hitting that exact region.
What I don't get is why there's need to stir things up now, by either side. What's done is done, let's move on. I prefer to move on in an honest way and not by spreading lies.
The article never said we were "forced" anywhere in that article, not with Bulgaria or any battle. I am guessing that is just antwone making his own propaganda up again, like the no TW's or that we havent done anything for CODE.
Oops sorry, I assumed I missed that part.
that is the joy of propaganda, my article is too long for some people, so they read their mates comments like antwone's comments and then think the wrong thing. But also sure peoples preconcived idea's about events involving Ireland and Code, which might be there due to a lack of understanding, a lack will to be bothered finding the truth or propaganda they have been told by others.
"This article is so much full of..."
Hush
As seemingly the only sane Irish person left in this god forsaking land.... I can only say
sorry
Your response doesnt surprise me at all WHS.
Funny 😉
Just came to say hi
"Hi"
hi
Not all right, but not all wrong..
Hey Rusty!
Hey buddy, but you also know more then anyone else, country friendships are based on personal relations. Not an umbrella of an alliance.
Hope your well in these trying times (RL not eRep times)
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>When in December Ireland launched a military campaign against the UK, CODE's response was one of horror and actual threats against Ireland. Even though we went to war for a sole purpose that was explained to CODE.
Your purpose/national goal was to take Ulster for yourself which no-one cared about as it's only use as a region is providing a fallback for whatever nation occupies Scotland and thus the Euro-US crossing.
Problem was that you cacked the timing and ended up messing up a Training War by trying to include Wales in your 'United Island'??!??!?!
No-one had a problem with your intention just the incompetence.