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by Tetsuya Tameru
Hello all, its the dead of night again. I sit here bored while my brother and my friend play battlefront downstairs. This is me, saying that yes "i'm going to be only to check and then I'll be downstairs again, it will be two seconds" was a blatant lie. Like many of us, I find myself placing more and more of real life aside for my hobbies. But why do I play when sometimes its not fun?
Is it something to do? Is it because its somewhat an escape from the general stagnation of my life? Stagnation it contributes to, no less? Certainly I'm not playing for the game mechanics because going from my former game(tribalwars to this) make it seem like I took a crap in a bag and opened my browser to that bag. I'll say this. I certainly did not come to see the drama I always do.
I am a proud member of SSS. While I suppose I can understand why a few of you have a crux regarding my party, I can appreciate the majority of you's respect in keeping that private, or at least not trolling us. The rest of you, it can be fun, Surrre(hell, I've trolled before. Not often though), but at the end of the day, do you feel better about it? Feel any manlier that you "stuck it to SSS"?
Or to the other side of the spectrum, does the other side feel better about "showing up FoH"? Walking away from this social clash, Its obvious we have major 3 factions of citizens that encompass the general populace.
In one area we have the FoH, or Fires of Heaven people. Called PTOers by some, mostly trolls by the other. In the other area we have the "RP fags" or such inclined parties or people who generally dislike FoH in general, either out of distrust or as victims of thier trolling and reciprocaters therof. in the final area we have the people who dont care. 2clickers, naturally, make up most of this section, but there are others who just couldnt give a crap if you gave them a laxative to do so.
What I'm wondering this late, is why it is we cant seem to find some sort of ceasefire between the two sides. This is the main reason we cant find unity as a nation. Somehow we cant forgive one another and move on. I log on each day and I almost hope in vain that some calamity befalls us. Why? because at such an event we'd probably cease to be FoH or SSS or RPfag. We'd be a unified eJapanese mass serving our country for the common good; not because it makes us look better, but because it makes us feel better.
Members of both sides, before you troll the other side, or hurl an insult, or publish your near-tabloid articles; I ask that you stop and think about it. If you can honestly consider that your article can bring any good at all rather than more malice. Press the button and bring it into being. If not, please move on with your elife and give unity a chance.
Thanks for reading
~TT
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"not because it makes us look better, but because it makes us feel better."
Do you support using drugs to "feel" better? Despite the harmful effects, do you apply harmful substance IN yourself for the sake of feeling good?
If its harmful and rather wasteful, you don't apply them. Simple as that.
Be nice, yonsil. Voted, good article. Sadly, things may or may not fix itself in the near future.
Politic is not a game, its a competition and struggle for supremacy. I am not playing monopoly or dots with my buddies, I am potentially fighting my future enemies.
But this world is a game, and we're all monopoly pieces.
I am not against the idea of unity. However, it is only convenient tactic by politicians who seek greater and common reaching ground when in reality, he/she is nothing like of such.
Politics is the same as being a Lawyer.
my profession.
Checkmate
I tried to get a ceasefire going last month and the other side didn't turn up.
"FoH" took this country from a backwater and BUILT it into a place which is internationally important, makes tons of Gold and has a organised and powerful military. For a country this size we are doing great and it is down to people like Dokomo and Oligagnon.
The one downside is that we are from a different part of the internet and are not always polite, alot of the guys are quite a bit older too.
The "Roleplayers" stood in the way of progress every single time and made our lives hell. Sometimes just for the hell of it Economic Improvements), sometimes for their own benefit (ATO Measures).
More than that they haven't raised a single finger to help.
The only thing they seem to care about is how polite you are, despite them getting as dirty as everyone else in flaming.
We are now getting power vacuums like this CP election because people just don't want to deal with it any more. As the "roleplayers" get ever more votes and make ever more noise alot of people just don't bother playing.
Why work hard to build eJapan when another group is working just as hard to destroy it (either by accident or on purpose).
Last month I tried to get everyone together in an IRC channel to talk about issues, understand what everyone wants try and reach a consensus. The "roleplayers" didn't turn up.
Tetsuya Tameru it is your own party that needs to read this article because the other parties will come to any meeting, thread or channel no problem to talk.
Good articles Tetsuya but like Yonsil, I don't believe in unity.
In every nation there's always the people in power and the oposition.
You can't satisfy everyone but the moment you really working for the good of the country, the rest does not matter
I find it rather ironic, really. >_>; Everyone wants to have their cake and eat it too. The senior crowd have their experience and have developed firmly rooted beliefs in how this game should be played. And perhaps they have no wish or reason to make an effort to get along those they disagree with. Discussions have a record of devolving into petty insults and childish remarks when groups are unable to convince others why their logic is superior. In the minds of some, the outcome is already establish; the scenario already played out - deviance is seen as an absurdity, as a crime to so-called common sense.
We can dream about ideals and a wonderful utopia, but what you say and what you do lingers on your persona for a long time. The game mechanics can be learned, the future of a nation can be changed, but the inherent nature of people - played as a role or otherwise - stay pretty much the same. And because so much time has passed, time we have all had to get to know one another, there develops a certainty among players with whom they wish to get along with. Make no mistake - things are not always what they seem, and a trust once broken could take a miracle to restore.
There will be justice.
"Members of both sides, before you troll the other side, or hurl an insult, or publish your near-tabloid articles; I ask that you stop and think about it. "
...you also wrote this: "the FoH, or Fires of Heaven people. Called PTOers by some, mostly trolls by the other."
Are you in the group who call us PTOers, or the group who call us "mostly trolls"?
Also: You clearly do not know what a troll is. I have never seen a single post or message or newspaper article by a FoHer written with the intention to troll.
(But I do know that there are some people, perhaps you are one of them, who think that criticism and trolling is the same thing).
The two groups have apparently mutually exclusive goals: the FoH powergamers want to be involved in every battle the bigger powers (eUSA, Penix, etc.) are involved in while the roleplayers mostly don't have ambitions to be the BESTEST EVER.
Read Goku Jones comments: "FoH took this country from a backwater and BUILT it into a place which is internationally important, makes tons of Gold and has a organised and powerful military," try to avoid the "BWAHAHA REALLY?" factor in what he says and compare it to anything Sophia Forrester has written (see her newspaper for examples).
The former is humorous self-aggrandizing and the latter is mostly thoughtful prose, especially for a free online game. Given that you are 100% correct about the game mechanics of eRepublik being comparable to crap-in-a-bag, the majority of players who will stay interested for longer than four months (the time it takes to actually build up some useful skill/strength in this game) will do so because they are trying to get away from games like Tribalwars, where game mechanics is probably the only important thing.
Thus, it's more likely that the powergamers numbers dwindle in a game like this while the roleplayers are likely to stick around. What will we do without the Goku Jones', Dokomos, and OliGagnons to empty out the treasury from time to time, er, I mean help us eCripples through eLife?
@Kita
There are more power gamers then RP'ers on eRep, people stay around for the competition with other countries and RL rivalries sometimes, so please do not speak on something you have completely wrong. I don't mean to pick on you but you are entirely wrong, infact the only country I have seen that cares about RP'ing is eJapan and I am not knocking it, but your wrong plain and simple.
@Alfred Get used to it. KITA blatantly and continually lies in an effort to make others follow his lead. He's constantly brought up refuted statements and is consistently proved to be incorrect.
@KITA"FoH took this country from a backwater and BUILT it into a place which is internationally important, makes tons of Gold and has a organised and powerful military," try to avoid the "BWAHAHA REALLY?" factor in what he says and compare it to anything Sophia Forrester has written
Compare with what you just said with how your entire Presidency played out. We made more gold and had a better organized military before and after your reign due to two FoH Presidents, and Ministers of Finance.
Also protip, the treasury was at it's emptiest(bank theft) directly as a result of roleplayers.
I don't think anyone is served by trying to simplify this into a battle of 2 sides. It's not that simple. I'm an "FoHer", and yet in the SSS. Does that make me a PTOer or a troll? I forget which.
I think your intentions are good, tetsuya, but you can pretty clearly see what this degenrates into. The way to fix this is to just stop participating. Easier said than done, I know. And it's frustrating sometimes. I know I get frustrated sometimes when Kita cut and pastes the same set of lies over and over and no one bothers to call him on it. But at the end of the day, it takes 2 to troll. Just stop participating and it goes away.
@Alfred Ball eJapan is not the average eRepublik country. Want to know why it is a "backwater" that "powergamers saved?" Do the math: eJapan's only really useful resource is high grain. The position as a gateway between Asia is marginally useful whenever it suits one of the superpowers to move through. It has been funny to watch the powergamers realize time and and again that they probably could have done more to help their cause in a more active country/economy.
@ TRSV Check the figures again. The January revenues for the NBoJ were in-line with the monthly incomes for the time periods when Vorph and Oligagnon were MoFs. Making money in eRep is not *magic* it just involves being proactive/reactive in putting up MM offers. What you didn't see me do is pull a Dokomo and dump half the treasury in wars/battles that we ended up losing.
Protip: the treasury was stolen directly as a result of pro-superalliance partisan hacks (Walorm/Oraizan😛enix?) emptying it out. Sound like last month (Dokomo/Crawling Chaos=eUSA?)? Circumstances different, end result similar.
Hope FoH was better at Everquest than it is at eRep. 😁
@CC "Easier said than done, I know. I know I get frustrated when Kita cut and pastes blah blah blah"
Show me one place where I cut/paste any comment (besides quotations). You FoH guys provide enough entertainment for original comments. And if you look at any of my articles, there's the old FoH crow😛 Aogo, Daeish, Lejina, etc. all "participating." Not sure why some people don't like people calling them out for their actions in a game based on democratic participation.
Those who concentrate on playing 'the game' to win Vs Those who concentrate on building a society.
Pick a team and have some fun.