[Mongress] Raising Minimum Wage Cuz Reasons...
WayneKerr
Right, listen up Retards. Seeing as Appleby and his failed 'Roman' Theme has pretty much killed all life in the eUK (apart from Dappers miraculous Top 5 entry and the 'old guard' rejoining UKRP), I thought I'd go old school on your arses and propose some Congressy shit via article format. Or at least give the incoming Mongressmen something to consider and mull over while they do nothing for the term.
eUK lacks a lot of things in this downtrodden, lacklustre era that we have stumbled into. We find ourselves surrounded on all sides by 'friends' or 'friends of friends', so no prospect of fun in the near future to be found on our borders and nowadays we are far too weak and poor to have a successful AirStrike mission. We are in essence no longer treading water and sometimes taking a big gulp of air, we are struggling and thrashing about while turning blue. All the while sinking deeper down.
But there is one thing we have an abundance of in the eUK.
Multis.
We have shit load of em, all throughout our parties. Look at your feeds for the evidence. It'll be the same people posting week after week after week, yet our top 5 parties all have a minmum of 30+ players! Where are they all? I hear you ask. Good question. They are quietly working away as slave labour for their owners.
Nowadays, from a moral point of view and the state we find ourselves in, I have no objection to em. If you have the need in 2017 to think that eRep and the eUK in particular is worthy of that much time and effort, I say good luck to you. Crack on, lad. But one thing I do have a problem with is the fact they are, lets not say dodging tax, they are paying tax. Just a pointless amount. The established players would always rather tax the honest man. He would rather siphon off the real players, then target (what are most likely his friends) those getting fat off nefarious deeds.
I have no intention of stopping people using multies, nor do I want to discourage those who operate them. After all, they stop our eCountry from looking like a barren waste land. All I want to do is take a bit of their profit and put it to good use (maybe more on that later).
The 'Commune' Myth
I already know what the counter argument will be, it'll be along the lines of 'wah wah, Royal Navy, wah, wah, wont survive, wah, wah'. Communes have always had one purpose. To make the controller of the commune a rich man, ask any ex-commune leader. Dental Corps started life as a 'Commune MU', we soon found out that it was actually a hindrance and very early on stopped it, the rest is history as they as. With the way prices are now, it's pretty much pointless. Not only are you playing the system in order to pay as little tax as possible, you are also avoiding paying VAT. Until The Royal Navy can produce the figures for their 'Commune' system, I will consider that argument null and void.
Therefore, I would like to open up a discussion, in order to propose at a later date, a raise to 10cc to the Minimum Wage. While we have the rise in place, I think it would be prudent for the Ministry of Finance to record the figures for future Mongresses to reflect on (might even give us a good idea of how many multis we actually have, I'll email MWC, he likes maths and shit).
So any objections to raising it?
Wayne
A Proper UKPP Mongressman
Comments
Wayne's ideas are the best ideas.
I fully support this motion.
I have seen a few times BP members have tried to raise the minimum wage,The Lemon Party have no objections in fact make it 50.00.
I guess if you're not a member of a commune you could just get money and then you know... buy tanks... with money. While meanwhile the producer can er... sell tanks.... for money.
Tax from 10cc is still a fairly pointless amount tho.
I agree it's a pointess amount. IMO smashing a rate of 50 or 100 straight out the box will cause the muti gangs to just close up shop for a bit. Skewing results. We don't want to punish them, simply leech from them.
Kind of presumptive to be saying that multis always take minimum wage jobs, tho. If the primary goal of a multi is to just swing election results they can just do the usual high paid jobs.
Which is fine, they'll be paying the going rate on tax then won't they.
yeah but if they're doing that anyway what are we raising the wage for
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to take a bit more from those that are working a slave job.
Not sure I see the point in raising it to 10cc. If we're going to raise it, make it 100cc
100cc straight out the bat would have caused people to baw. I'm happy for Mongress to raise to a number they can agree on, just so long as we do raise it so we can science it.
Communes - I agree. If someone is currently employed at 1 GBP and receives supplies, then surely they can be paid 10 GBP and receive an adjusted supply? If it's Q7 weapons then you're talking about an adjustment of approx one half of 1 Q7 weapon per work - that's how I see it, unless someone has a good reason for it being any different?
However it is also true that the eUK has the 18th highest Average Wage. There seems to be great variation in minimum wage without much affect on the Average Wage. France has a minimum of 100, whereas Germany is 0.88 yet France has only a slightly higher average suggesting there must be something averaging out their figures. If we had loads of people on minimum proportionately to other countries we would have an artificially low average - yet that doesn't seem to be the case.
Why do you even need to be given Q7 tanks when you can just recieve the cash and go buy them?
Averages can easily be skewed. We need a lot more data than erep provides to figure it out.
I'm communing in one of your factories, so if you're fine with it I'm fine with it. 🙂
Yep it's fine by me - if we do have a significant change in the Minimum Wage then people will have to make the adjustments as necessary.
How do you round with one half of a Q7?
The only way a commune could possibly be attractive to members is if someone is subsidizing it. There is absolutely no way to profit from it unless you have commune full of fools.
Which shows exactly how the CAF and Crimson Order lasted so long....fools. haha
Q7 destroyed the communes. Now everyone just plays for there own personal benefit.
I would actually tend to agree to raising it, to be honest. 😛
Minimum wage should be at least 50cc by me, but that probably will not be accepted.
To answer both Prince Harry and GrEnDeLi - the reason why things get rejected is usually because whomever makes the proposal just puts up a random law without any consultation or explanation of why they are making their proposal. What should be happening is exactly like what Wayne is doing - put forward an idea with reasoning, then allow a period of discussion for views to be expressed and opinions formed and then if he feels the proposal will gain support in Congress he can announce the proposal and reasoning having taken into account the discussion and press the button to begin the voting.
By me rejection will be because many "communes" rely on multiple accounts that work for the "main" one for 1cc. And (I guess) good number of MPs have the one or is dependent from a such type of account (Party president, MU commander etc).
It's been debated over and over. Raise min wage already.
We can only try new things I recommend giving it a chance.
I agree, I'm for increasing it to 100cc straight away...
As I suggested this probably will not pass ... many multi "communes" around.
Well so far it seems to be going well. Couple of days and I'll propose it, then we'll see.
https://www.erepublik.com/en/main/law/United-Kingdom/192410
12 Yes 17 No
That's what you call going well?
obvious last minute troll is obvious.
I will be the one proposing my own proposal.
And will get similar result ...
I am interested to see the impact of this.
I never knew people were avoiding tax by working for friends for £0.01. Its immoral in my opinion and it only help self gain and not helping the countries economy in anyway.
I actually would suggest £100 min wage and Working tax increase of 2%.
Not only would this raise a lot more money for war but we would be able to see just how many of these multi accounts are active in the background of the UK.
We could raise all taxes to 25% and still not have enough for a proper war. The days of the 'Government' funding our fun is long gone. It's going to be the general public who need to pick up the tab, which is why we want to keep the working tax and VAT as low as we can. This way cash is kept on peoples accounts rather than being sat idle in the Treasury.
Increase min. wage and keep taxes low is the key here - increasing taxes will give the opposite effect. This is for those that avoid taxes AND have holdings in eUK.
Fight with multi accounts is a game staff work, but they avoided that оbligation lately or, at least, they do it very selectively. So I and other honest players are disadvantaged and we are a minority.
In fact NHS, Royal Navy supplies and other funding initiatives (as far as they is active) is supporting from "communes" and multi accounts work (eSlavery work). Therefore any request for change was met with hostility by certain circles. And here we going into a closed circle.
You have to laugh when a man who can't remember how he spent a million cc of the countries money proposes a scheme to get more taxes.
We spent many millions, how do you expect me to remember an individual million?