[miles] Abstract Love – A Concept
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by miles247
I’ll begin with what meaning of love has been to me upto this point of time. I have always thought of love as the feeling for someone/something where you are so much in understanding with the object of love of your love that you are not afraid to give total control of your mind, your body and your total existence over to that someone/ something. If you are afraid to give total control, you are not in love yet. It is a wonderful feeling. But if the love is mutual, other being is not always able to use it. You two understand each other so deeply and you are not afraid to let your feelings flow.
But yesterday, all of a sudden, Maniu throws this idea of love without an object. It is difficult for me to explain because I haven’t reached that state of mind where someone might be able to experience this abstract love, it could be like you are in love with nothing and everything. I’d ask Maniu to explain further.
Well, to me, it came quite as a revelation. Because if love is for something/someone, then there is always a possibility of that object going away from your life, and this kind of love always fades away, depending on the relationship. If love is abstract, you can be in eternal bliss, for it is a state of mind. And as you can reach any state of mind at will, this one would be eternal. An idea of eternal love somehow sounds fascinating.
Well, I just wanted to throw this idea around and banter about it. Writing like this helps one think better. Hope to reach that state of mind someday.
Signing off,
miles247
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Now, love, exactely as you described it is, somehow, like sabija Samadhi (the samadhi, wich is a very specific term I could not translate in english, with a seed).
A state of mind in wich the mind suffer no more transformation from a second to other, but, more interesting, in wich the subject (you) became something else (the object that populate the mind in that moment, and it is nothing else in the mind but that object).
Further more, in this state, you, as identity, became the object of your mind.
So to say, a true love bring you at the edge of the next realm.
But,
When the mind pass to the other identity (becaming the object) you will experience a ... lack of anything.
Now, this is technically called nirbija Samadhi (the samadhi without seed) and many ppl tend to compare it with a big sensless, black space of lack of identitiy (because we are so atached to our identity, our Self).
Now, in time of practice, you begin to enjoy more and more this state of mind, where ... is nothing and when this "nothing" became you "love" (meaning when your mind identify with this), then you could understand what "love without an object mean".
Sure, from there to Kaivaly is just a matter of time, depending on how many karma you have to "burn", but the process is allmoust ready and you just have to wait for he's ending.
That for, I'm sure, all this is very ... esoteric, so to say, and hard to comprehend by ppl.
Still, your passion and determination (like the one when you described love) could paragone with this, just that there is no passsion, because when u became love, u could (it is not the case) to have any other obejct that for.
😃, hope u willunderstand.
😁^ Typical Maniu at his philosophical best. : )
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Its pre-proved not by me by human kind from prehistory : telling about something 'bout abstract is good but creating feelings on abstract is hard, And finding meaning of Love is good but spreading of Love it is best. well, nice article, voted.
It's called religion.
the small people call it so
LOVE IS ON THE AIR
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WE ONLY CAN FIGHT HATE WITH LOVE NOT WITH MORE HATE
So you mean to say that to love without an object or an entity, you have to become love itself? that's wht I understood maniu
Cool subject. Miles is spreading the love : )
There was this show on TV where kids shared their opinion about different things. They were asked what love is and one of them said "Love is when daddy gets home from work all dirty and mommy still says he's beautiful".
Being somewhat attracted to mysteries, shadows, puzzles, hidden meanings and the unknown, I am reluctant to trying to define love.
I love "things". People, activities, ideas, feelings, songs, memories. There is always *something* you love, because only so will you feel love back.
I am just embracing my own identity who's only capable of feeling butterflies, staying up at night, smiling, crying and whatever silly reactions loves makes you have. I feel alive, feel my heart beating and my hands trembling, feel at peace while in tumultuous state, feel wiser and less wise.I feel powerful and weak. And that makes it so fun. Love is abstract even if there's a subject.
Why go so far as trying to love everything and nothing, to become love itself? Furthermore, how does one decide to go to such a place? What would be the result?
Who will love you back? Will the love you receive ever be enough?
It's such an intimate, highly personal feeling. More than any other one we may experience.
One should not think of love as just another thing you feel during the day.
Nor should one raise it to such a level where love becomes the all-controlling meaning of life, sole reason to live that can only get you higher and higher on an invisible stairway. Love is complicated and has a personality of its own.
Love,
Sunny
deep thoughts ! voted
I think the abstraction is too acute - I know a few who love themselves beyond anything else - usual English calls it egomania : DD
I also think this is a very specific talk and, that for, easy missunderstanded.