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jebeš ukrajinu ako smo mi fašisti.

No need to waste time communicating with this animal.

On the contrary: every erep player should talk to him to get acquainted with the famous Ukrainian politeness. Especially those who put ukr flags on avatar and show support for Ukraine in other ways

The support for Ukraine is not because they are better people but because of the understanding of the situation they are in.

Does the fact that Russia is wrong justify being a jerk and absolve of all sins?

No, but I can't imagine how would one react if his country is ruined, so I am not that condemning. The support for Ukraine is not based on individual human reactions, this was my meaning.

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I am wondering how people cannot see similarity between Nazi Germany after 1934 and Ukraine 2014 ?It's the same path. Only this time Russia don't let them to attack first.

Yes, I am understanding situacion they are in. It's the same situation as in Germany in 1945.

Nazism must to be stopped at any cost.

There is no any similarity. Germany was superpower with superpower ambitions. Ukraine is an average European country. How could they have ambition or ability to endanger to Russia?

There are some nationalist extremist groups. Nationalist extremism is problem in every country to some extent including Russia itself. Russia could defend Donbas Russians from extremist activity without bombing whole Ukraine.

On the long term the dismantling of extremist ideology and extremist groups in Ukraine will happen along with their European integration. Under Russian occupation extremist ideology will always find ground.

^ said by someone from a European integrated country run by Fidesz.

What's the point? Hungary is well integrated, there is no serious extremism here. Neither do Fidesz have any intention to challenge NATO affiliation. If Orban had any intention to balance on the edge of the West, this was made impossible by Russia itself.

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At 1933-34 Germany was far from superpower. And Germany gain strength and power step by step.

First step was taking of Rhineland (Rhineland demilitarized zone).

Ukrainian first step would be attacking at Donbas. But with one difference. I don't believe that they thought Russia will not protect people of Donbas. So, they obviously planned to fight against Russia. That would be their second step.

What would be the purpose of that war ? Something bigger ? Or just the same situation as they have now. With only difference that Russia don't let them strike first.

After all it is not simple as it looks at first sight.

Ukrainians have fighting moral, but they hardly defend themselves even with assistance of the West. Their attack against Russian mainland would not make sense. Russian acquisition of Donbas is not recognized by anyone.

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You don't have to attack Russian mainland to start a war against Russia. If you attack Russian population - you will have war with Russia.
During eight years Ukrainian extremists murdering Russian population at Donbas. More than 14.000 people died since 2014. And nobody cared about that (in "civilized democratic states").

At the same time we had oppression of Russian population (citizens of Ukraine) all over the country.
From my point of view, Russia was very patient during that time. But every patiention have its end.

By the way, Russia don't need anybodys recognition of acquisition of Donbas. Russia is empire. Just like USA. And empires don't need approval for things that they doing.

If you look at wars started by USA at last 60-70 years you will see a lot of bad things, much worse than war in Ukraine. But nobody talks about that.

Like in definition of aggression:

Aggression is when one country attack another one. But only if attacker is not USA.

I mean for the comparison, Versailles treaty was recognized by everyone.
Germany lost WWI, Russia lost Cold war. Russia itself recognized the territory of Ukraine like Germany did Versailles. Now after 30 years they try to change that.
I am not defending Ukrainian extremists still it does not make the war legitimate.

Then who are you defending?
Still trying to catch up your point. You support the imaginary picture of Ukraine in your mind and ignore the real Ukraine we see in this article, in this game and in reality

This whole thing started after too much of your "Russia lost the cold war". It were Russians who dismantled the Soviet Union and brought down communism, not anybody else, with all the respect. Three weeks before the August coup in 1991 US President was in Kiev and warned Ukrianians against chauvinism, nationalism and secession from what you call "Russia which lost the cold war". There's hardly much sense in your cherished concept of international recognition as long as it remains based on this one-sided mindset and ignoring the broader context.

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Versailles treaty came after a war - not during the war.

Today, thirty years after, I am not sure that Soviet Union (Russia) lose Cold war. Because it looks like that Cold war never ended.

If we look beyond military operations in Ukraine maybe we can see that this war is not between Ukraine and Russia. This war is war between political West (USA - NATO countries) and Russia. Ukrainians are just "infantry" in that clash. NATO spent a lot of money after coup at 2014. to prepare Ukraine for this.

I am defending average Ukrainians, the vast majority who suffers from the Russian war. That the American president warned against secession in 1991 is an authorization for the war now?

And who is justifying it here? I'm giving some insight as to why it began, the western political short-sightedness you duly represent here being one of the reasons (as well as the Russian government miscalculations). But of course you can just keep pushing on the "I support these because they suffer" issues, it's gonna be a safe bet until things get bad enough in all our countries for people to stop logging into this stupid game and worry about more pressing issues.

It's not more farsighted to identify all Ukrainians with extremists. Russia miscalculated the war but the real reason why it can't be justified for me, because Ukrainians doesn't want to live in Russian system, that's all. Denying people's freedom of choice is a very pressing issue.

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@aimei support UKR san - Аverage Ukrainians fighting against each other in this war. Because they are all citizens of Ukraine. Some supported by Russia, some supported by NATO.

And that is the real tragedy of this war. Slavic people, with the same origin, fighting between themselves. The same origin as we Serbs are.

Most of peole don't know, that Donbas region was populated by Serbs more than two centuries ago. They came there to protecting border of Russian Empire. Town Slavyanoserbsk (rus. Славяносербск, ser. Славјаносербск) was Serb town (like manu others in that region). Славян - means Slavs, сербс - mean Serbs. So, that was the town of Serb Slavs. In time, their descendants become Russians. Just like a lot of ethnic Russians become Ukrainians...

So, question is - who are you defending in this war ?

And who said everyone there is an extremist? You're probably talking to some imaginary stereotypic Russian who looks for justifications, not me. I'm talking about different things. As for the rights to freedom et alia, let's hope the idealistic worldview will still stand a chance in a decade, if there will be any chance to check, of course. The more illusions people have the less this chance, because people who are in power now turned out to be even less responsible than the likes of Nixon and Brezhnhev.

> because Ukrainians doesn't want to live in Russian system, that's all

Millions of Ukrainians live in Russia. Other millions have fled from Ukraine to Russia after 2014 as refugees. So they clearly state what do they want.

The only one who doesn't want to live in Russian system, is the small group of rusophobes from Western Ukraine - yes, that very extremists who started the war against the people whom they formally consider as compatriots. Hmm nobody force them to live in Russian system. But they should give the others a possibility to make their choice. That's democracy!
In fact you support that extremist and antidemocratic group. Because western propaganda associate them with the whole Ukrainian nation.

It's also VERY ironical that the idea of a Versailles system as universally recognized one is put forward by a person whom originates from a country which wasn't party to Versailles, but a party to Trianon. And we know how the extreme happiness regarding it's recognition ended up.

Freedom always has chance, sooner or later the people usually get back their freedom, the question is how much time and how much they have to fight for it.
nimnul I don't believe who don't want to live in Russia are only extremists.
I and my country recognize the Trianon borders, as I said in EU there is no serious extremism.

I support RF SLAVA\o/RUSI we go next what we care about

Ovaj je bre ko kovalski_afc samo ukrajinac.

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Jbt likovi još tripuju da će Ukrajina pobediti .....

Diznilend rodjaci xDDD

stigle im pošiljke pomoći iz kolumbije

Ne daju to sirotilji, mogli su dobiti pomoć iz Avganistana i američku sintetiku 🤣

The article clearly explains, «who losted time at sckool and have zero knolage» about everything

Excellent interview, bravo! 😋

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on je jedan od najboljih novinara ikad u esrbiji 😃

It's time for Aseria to break up. Play real game, no TW waste.

his english is abysmal

Poziva se na kao neki sud, neki nimberg kurac palac .... videce on sad Putinov sud kako ce da radi za njih fasiste 😃
Demilitarizacija i denacifikacija pa Putinov sud 🙂
Slava Ukraini kao regiji koja se nalazi u kraj Rusije 😃 tvorimo istoriju 🙂

NovoSerbia i SlavoSerbia!

Klasicna budaletina.. xDDD

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Crazy times - the Nazis accuse us of being fascists...

Hypocrites and demons...

Kikindoooo... xD

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