Working Together Then?
Aspadora
This article i am writting it cause of the article An Argument Against Sudden Tax Upheaval Upheaval http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/an-argument-against-sudden-tax-upheaval-1503099/1/20
First the propolsals came nowhere yes and noone was debateing them or was planing to debate them and thats because we dont have with whom to debate with? Here's an expample... i havent seen u in 2-3 days i wrote u a message,even on IRC and suddenly u are back with an article against all the propolsals...
I think i explained with my article why i started to make changes http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/military-changes-1502235/1/20
Our party for now is the one with the most votes and congress members this term and some of us including me don't know the past debates and if we put a propolsal we got atacked or something like that. Noone is communicating with us or educate us if u want to put it that way what we should do or should not do. Have u seen our time zone btw? Now on erep is 1:55 and in my real time its 10:55am.
Btw you say with the money from taxes you fund the military? From that u mean by The Guardians or the Narwhals? Because if u fund a military u should fund it when we are attacked because why should we fund it if we are fighting for MPP's ? If it goes like that every citizen in this country would like to be funded .... Sry Yonai but i dont agree on everything u said in ur article
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First of all, the Narwhals never received funding by the eSK government. We're completely Alfa-funded. Second, a military has to be trained. Increase in Rank is essential for becoming a valuable soldier who is able to defend his country and the allies of this country. Why the funding you ask? Have you ever been on a V2 battlefield? It's impossible to win a fight without a decent weapon.
So, can you increase in rank and become a better soldier without winning? I don't think so.
well m8 thats all i am talking about ... in my past articles i wrote that we need to make MPPs or TW to make our citizens get stronger increase their ranks and everything ... we can run a war with a single unit...
No. You talked about cutting back the military funding, which doesn't really help the army. A barehanded army is rather ridiculous.
If you read Yonai's article thoroughly (as anyone should always do when posting a "response" or "rebuttal"), you will see that she gave you due credit for your article explaining your proposal. It was quite a compliment, honestly.
i know my mistakes and i never lie or cover...what is true its true and i read yonais article
1. Of cource eSK IRC isnt really that active but hey, I'm usually around and in the same timezone like u. I was there when u want to aks me something and all that stuff, so u cant say there's no one who can teach u. BUT I told u, we cant read your thoughts, so u should have contacted me or someone else BEFORE you made the proposals. The article u wrote after the proposals are made isnt more then an excuse!
2. "Our party for now is the one with the most votes and congress members this term and some of us including me don't know the past debates and if we put a propolsal we got atacked or something like that."
Well I can only speak for me, I dont attack a single person, I attack the proposal, doesnt matter who initialized it, if it wasnt discussed and flip back a whole taxplan of an earlier term. If you dont know the past, then ask, but I never saw u asking in IRC while I was there, except our smalltalk and the talk after the proposals where made. BUT if u want to run for congress, u should be informed of what was made, what should be done... You can't blame the people if you dont read the forum yourself. You will find the complete taxplan and stuff in the eSK Forum!
3. The military is funded by the incoming money from eSK countries or importing foreign countries. Like in an other comment on some of the previous article was said, you can lower the taxes to the bottom but u will not attract new foreign companies because who will buy the goods, max 200 people in eSK? 20G for an exportlizense *thumbs up* you will need months till u refund it.
But the importtax isnt the real problem, more with lowering the income tax some problems will occur.
It's simple math: lowering the incometax (-) + lowering the importtax (+-0) = - in the national treasury.
Lowering the importtax would have been acceptable, even not discussed, but with lowering the income tax, you've done a disservice to whole eSK...
We do have the forum for debate:
http://esouthkorea.freeforums.org/index.php
But no one uses it, if you could encourage other Congress members to take part on the forums you could get a proper debate on them.
As to communication and education, you and everyone you can get from your party should barrage us with private messages so that we cannot ignore it.
Not sure where I personally sit on the issues but I am pretty sure that we as a country need to look at our military now that we have a capable MoD and are in a position to really do something with it.
I think the point was that had you made the article explaining your desire/reasons for changing the rates then others could of had a discussion on it, told you why it was the way it was and listen to why you thought it should be changed.
People needed to say 'what they wanted' not 'why they did'
#Narwhals - They received no funding or incentives from the eSK gov. and they and their actions were in no way related to the nations goals, missions or aims.
#Irc - I was frequently there on a European Timing and was always available for discussion especially about economics.
This is a very nice way to train an army i must say:
http://economy.erepublik.com/en/citizen/donate/list/1486960
and all the items that go to La Fundacion Diablo del Sol guess where they end up:
http://economy.erepublik.com/en/citizen/donate/list/1564930
Now on the Korean guard accaunt there are olny 20 gold left basicly he spent 30 gold so far by his own writing in his articals to fight uninmportant battles in Bolivia and Austria and make "friendships".
As for the laws we think that they should be lowered especialy the import onse cause there is nothing on the korean market.
@Herr Seidel
Again what army? i have 2 times apllied in Aray`s articles to become part of the guard and i have not recieved an answer.
I see 1 man fighting
The debate was publicized by both myself and the President, although in defence of some congressmen the outcome of such discussions and other goings on in IRC, Forums, PM's and Articles tended to act independently of each other.
The only place where everything has a chance of being seen by everyone is here in the media. Somebody needs to centralize the information and publish it.
^The army being a good example.
I have no idea nor have seen no records (of even the barest detail) concerning what they are doing?!
>>The only place where everything has a chance of being seen by everyone is here in the media. Somebody needs to centralize the information and publish it.
That's a good idea, didn't JaFe want to do something similar that with a Congressional Newspaper? Maybe that should be the role of a Speaker of the Assembly.
hm......... anything else................... eSK treasury can`t Funding Large scale Army .................. tax can`t support that, becuase of there R too small industries and Economy...........
and in V2, "Q5 or Nothing"............................. this is critical at Weapon industries.
anything else recently I was very busing some accident in RL..
But Welcome Ur Idea. no Argument always not Good
http://erepublik-market.cz.cc/weapons.html
Q5 tank Price is set from 0.7~1.3 Gold and Price per Use is set 0.015~0.05 Gold
Q5 Helicopter Price is set from 1.8~3 Gold and Price per Use is set 0.04~0.20 Gold
If there R 10 man Shock Trooper in eSK average 1 battle almost 10 Gold need per battle.................
we can`t do that
You just can't propose laws without informing entire community of what are you pointing at. Even Carlos wrote silly articles during his atempts to steal state money.
@Wladimir Rascian
And where should we discuse this last time i visited your chat one of your guys started to attack me that i have been starting stupid proposals about taxes.When i tried to explain he said that it would have been better off that i had left as i have done after wining in the previous 2 elections and leave you to run your country.
We are not attempting to steal money we are trying to lower taxes we want every tax to be at 1% except immport for grain.Mauby 1-5% vat is the most that can be raised in taxes all others immport and income should be 1%.
At the moment the market is empty exept for rifles there are no other q5 weapon offers,there are no q5 houses and q5`s bread price is more than i earn with 12 hours working.
If you lower the prices some companys workers may decide to start selling here and the country will make money from licences.Also becuse Korea has no active wars except with USA and Japan many company owners may decide to open grain companys right here.
Or if you want the ones that alwready have a business to prosper at least ask china to attack some of our regions so we the companys can get cheap licences
Why the heck do you want Q5 bread and any Q housing?
cheaper in the short, medium and long run to buy Q1 food and just eat as much as needed.
btw Demigod_mk, it wasnt against you , it was against your proposals. I dont care how u explain your proposals, because the goddamnfucking congress should discuss it before... Before, I know u know the word.
Seriously, I doubt u are registred in the forum. If you are, you should read maybe the national assembly section. We have some rules for congressional work!
It was never something personal against u, if u felt that way, well im sorry. Get over it or hate me, i dont care, but the way the proposals were made sucks hard, and the proposals sucks too, because there is no... really NO + why the taxes should be changed that way.