USA:The Enemy within
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Yesterday or today work tax was increased from 18% to 25% in the USM United States of Merica
Their average pay is 46.87 that means per wam click their work tax is 11.71 cc
A alu mine would produce 250 WRM per 1 wam click
250 * 0.062 = 15.5 minus 11.71 = 3.79 per factory
rubber plantations
500 * 0.062 = 31 minus 11.71 = 19.29
But the effective tax rate is far more than 25% . This is because in his usual illogical way Plato just applied work taxes on factory production or wam clicks and calculated it by using salaries. Imagine if your taxes was paid based on what you and others pay workers.
Effectively in the USA on alu mines the tax rate is 75.54% for every 100 cc a us player makes on his alu mine he pays the government 75.54 cc and he keep the rest
On rubber plantations the tax rate is 37.77 %
but its 25% you say its 25% government say so and Plato
Ok sorry your government are not stupid their only selfish and greedy and wants you to pay for the game they want to play
What is diplomacy they ask is it better than placing massive CO's on all our battles wee!
Is diplomacy better than being an arrogant ....!
Is diplomacy better than brainwashing the young into your corrupt way of politics.
So we need 185000 cc to do what exactly with?
Can someone else than the numpties in congress see your financial reports. Because it just seems a bit weird that if you have an ongoing income of 150000 cc per day you will need more a day.
more and more and more and more
Obviously not because you guys are voting them in!
in fact when the entire rest of the world sees a tax hike to 25% we all collectively go
double facepalm because that is not half rtded that is
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[nonak4CP] because f@ck it.
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/immigrant-party-supports-nonak4cp--2580180/1/20
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I would have left a bigger endorsement, but I'm broke. 😉
Also, some of the eGovernment handouts pay more than eRep jobs.
That's if you are only using one of them.
Why...wouldn't you be?
If everything is working, you can get eGov money three times.
Worst congress of all time imo
If USA insists on keeping work tax higher than 10% all producers will eventually stop being a source of income, for two main reasons - either get out of USA and find another place to produce at 100% bonus or either stop produce at all on USA to cut dramatic loses.
I dare one congressmen to come here and present me clear mathematic that USA has yet not cross Laffer limit on tax curve - I really dare
How stupid can a nation be to raise this much Work Tax on a basis of hoarding money to protect USA
Protect what if you remain to destroy the little that is left on your country? - stable 100% core bonus and stable politics
pfff
with determination bonus.
we can keep all our starting regions with no taxes 🙂
so we do not need to tax people.
so if we tax everyone a whole bunch and we lose all the players we still can keep all bonuses!
so let's raise taxes more! /s
I would really like to see us have 0% work taxes. I would love to see having vat taxes and low import taxes, and have high volume on our markets than to tax the workers into oblivian
@ Madvieri I hope u are right on the Laffer limit. I will start to compute daily taxes so we will be able to check the facts. You can check as well on a daily basis here http://www.erepublik.com/en/country/economy/USA
At first sight (but the sample is too small to be not really relevant) our taxes went up by 66 % (15 to 25 😵 and the revenue went up by around 6% !!
We would need to track number of players as well - as there was a significant decrease in active plyaers already..
And besides those there are active players that stop working as managers as well...
Lol about all these "economics". If you really knew your shit (not that it's in any way difficult, come back if you ran a business empire in V1), then you would've lobbied in congress like actual businesses do in RL. Not do stupid shit like this, because it doesn't work on top of it being full of misinformation.
well im not a us citizen. and that is a ad hominem attack not one based on facts like this article is. lobbying means you pay people to actually keep certain status quo in place. usually for some kind of legitimate reward like campaign funds. for a player with no interest in the usa other than it being a good market most of the time i have nothing to gain from lobbying and as well how exactly you want to buy support with there being no such things as campaign funds etc. perhaps it shows more of the truth in this article as we can say then that big mu's uses your tax funds to fund high co's they would probably lobby or bribe congress members to vote for higher taxes.
and this is the old case study of foreign prizes going up. which works like this say i buy from a local wholesaler that stock mostly imported good they always say oh prizes had to go up our currency dropped. if the currency recovers and is back at the best rate for years and you say to them but shouldnt prices now be lowered they just say nothing. because prices always go up never down.
problem in your system is that if wrm prizes drop to the level where it was at 0.02 then most of your factories is unprofitable.
but guess in your mind there is some kind of motivation. as i see it your trying to destroy the game/community and kill of as many accounts as possible.
also v1 was deleted long way back so unless you have some kind of time machine that is just basic stupidity. actually we all are in a 10 gold per day or 1 alu mine per day stretch for most profitable businesses. so your truly full retard as you are killing of business growth. if your economy grow at 1% per day thereby lets say 300 x 5 work tax = 1500 then your work taxes might naturally go to 200000 which is your aim. now i dont know what you do with the money lets just say a friendly tax rate means in the long run a bigger better economy. and taxing small businesses 75% mens your beyond stupid as in rl what would be the motivation for that! i dont think you could have been good in version 1 as you have no concept of strategy.
but my actual contribution to your economy would have amounted only to 2% of your total taxes. in my own country i contribute 20%. so your right what the eff do i know right 😉 i have 260 factories btw and growing at a rate of 1 factory per day.
Me and 4 friends ran a business group in v1 through several orgs and had around 800 employees.
Your calculations are weird and speculative and actually, just a collection of incoherent statements. If you think to just flood the market with products is creating a strong economy, you need to really rethink what you're doing.
lol Garmr i make money . I know the v1 times now which is over. actually at low profit margins one should mass produce. i actually grow at 1 alu mine per day. my counties income from my doings increase each day the 2 to 4 dollars our work taxes is. i understand now that your decisions was haphazard in congress that you didnt base it on economic principles that you didnt consider the numbers carefully. i will bring out a second article where i discuss with you guys the numbers and how taxes etc affect the swings and roundabouts. lets call it dinosaur re-education. but you will feel this in your numbers imo you f* up big time there will concequences no matter who you where in v1
While i find the 25% ridiculous , i find the fact that imports are still at 1-2% hillarious ...
Hey USA company 25% tax before you sell that product to your fellow Americans
Hey Foreigners come on in just costs 1% plus whatever your rate is (which is probably 5% or so)
feel the love industrialists of america, your country wants you to thrive
remember each time i sell a product on your market you get the taxes i used to drop 45000 wrm on your market thats 450 cc you dint have before. if i sell 1000 q7 you get 1000 cc. but yep 25% is crazy i agree. if you make import taxes too high like argentina etc did in the past i dont drop my items on your market.
That money is spent on defending the nation with COs, lol.
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I mean the war is almost/already over, so how come we havn't seen at least a SLIGHT decrease in the taxes, much less returning the rate back to normal?
Your lack of knowledge of how eUSA operates is clearly visible.
perhaps but you made an economic decision based purely on military reasons. i will discuss this in a later article . actually co's is taken mostly by big hitting foreign players so none of what you did truly benefits your countrymen. and im certain your tanks is not queuing to hand you the patriot medals they receive or the bh medals etc etc. custer is correct its about fiscal responsibility. remember that word .
People who have 100 or so rubber plants will pay $1000 in taxes. It's not the end of the world and the money pays for protecting it from attack. Eg Bulgaria, fyrom and chile lost horribly because of USA wealth. That's all I'm saying. 25% is not the worst thing especially with how highly organized the country is and always has been.
yes people with 100 rubber plantations i suppose in your mind each us player has 100 rubber plantations and is fed by a mother eagle. what about food then? what about alu mines? what about houses? and ultimately is q7 weps still profitable? and players will probably counter this by hiring more and more players at 105 cc wages meaning your taxes keep on increasing.
and you pretty much admitted your funds is tapped? so our allies should just regather their AS's and this time around they will wash over you.
Well, no more WAMing for me. :/