The Prodigal Son
Day 2,329, 14:03
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by HeapSeppo
Mood musik: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVm8PjWCvLg
The prodigal son is back!
Some of the older players might recognize my name from my time in the NSC. Some read my articles that I wrote to give the public a better grasp of the situation of the world during the harsh times that we went through (For those who don’t know what these harshtimes were I’d suggest you to read http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-nsc-the-past-and-the-future-2315870/1/20 and the other articles that I posted afterwards in the name of [NSC]). I did what I could to help the eUS as much as possible by increasing the knowledge of the none-meta player base and have active orders. I could never have done this alone. Next to me I had some of the most loyal players that I’ve ever met: Ilphen, Libertas, MMike and n0s3. Together we manage to coordinate with several of our allies to have constant military operations that cleansed the eUS of enemies one by one and pushed Hungary and Serbia back to their cores. Russia and Mexico got back on the map and we secured congress even for France.
Later I decided to go on a break once we were free of Serbia and Poland as well. The amount of work that had been done during these operations quickly burned me out completely. When you pull off 16 hour days to make sure that things run smoothly you can’t keep up forever. My break took me to Denmark where I started to “2-click” and fight just enough to make sure that I never trail behind in strenght. During this time I didn’t stay updated on the situation of the political side of eUS and now that I am back I can just say that I am shocked to find out what has happened. Shocked to find out that the people that spent hours daily to make sure we got back on the map have been declared disloyal. How is it that players get declared disloyal to eUS for refusing to let the CP mess up the FA and military coordination?
The hypocrisy
The situation that occured was that Wild Owl asked Arrlo(Obliterate) who was the current MoFA of Croatia to tell Croatians to stop with pro-crimean shouts because it upset some Russians. He refused due to it being impossible to stop and Wild Owl for some reason freaks out and decides to order NSC to remove Croatia from the orders. This coming from a person that has been one of the “Kosovo is Kosovo!” shouting players for what seems an eternity. One would think that if you want to shout about IRL situations you should not condemn others for doing the same. To remove an ally from an order list due to “pro-Crimean” shouts from individuals is how you kill your FA completely. If you want to censure your allies and threat to not give military support if they do not listen you need to take a class in how to run Foreign Affairs.
Chain of Command
Some yell that not executing the order that Wild Owl gave was a direct violation of the chain of command. Is it a dictator that we have chosen that can do anything he wants to? Can he decide to ruin our entire FA without anyone going against him? Does loyalty mean that we do anything our POTUS asks of us without a question? I would call that a puppet show. Wild Owl ordered Ilphen to refuse military aid towards a country that we have a written agreement with. Did Wild Owl forget that we have our CUB* agreement? This does not make Ilphen disloyal to eUS, this make Wild Owl disloyal against our allies.
The aftermath
After the whole incident with Ilphen both Libertas and n0s3 were quickly removed as well. The reason behind that they got removed was that “Where one of them are, they all are”. Neither of them were contacted about this beforehand and got a nice suprise when they logged on. N0s3 served 15 months in the NSC and was a strategical master mind behind many operations and served as an advisor to every single CP until his discharge and now he just got kicked out and brandished disloyal. It is simply a disgusting way to thank a person that has spent countless hours to make sure that our military operations go well.
Something I’d like to note is that Wild Owl told Ilphen that he was sorry about his behaviour and said that he overreacted, yet Ilphen didn’t get his access back.
Conclusion
Were orders disobeyed? Yes.
Did these orders break written agreements between the eUS and an ally? Yes.
Does disobeying these orders make someone disloyal towards the country? No.
Is eUS a weaker country when it comes to strategy without these people? Without a doubt.
* The agreement: http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-whpr-misery-loves-company-support-the-us-recruitment-drive--2283108/1/20
TL
Calling Libertas, Ilphen and n0s3 disloyal is about the biggest bulls**t that you could ever come up with. These people have all put down more time to help eUS than almost any other player.
I realize this article is extremely late, but I thought these people deserved to be honored for their great contribution to our country. To me they will always be eHeroes.
The prodigal son is back!
Some of the older players might recognize my name from my time in the NSC. Some read my articles that I wrote to give the public a better grasp of the situation of the world during the harsh times that we went through (For those who don’t know what these harshtimes were I’d suggest you to read http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-nsc-the-past-and-the-future-2315870/1/20 and the other articles that I posted afterwards in the name of [NSC]). I did what I could to help the eUS as much as possible by increasing the knowledge of the none-meta player base and have active orders. I could never have done this alone. Next to me I had some of the most loyal players that I’ve ever met: Ilphen, Libertas, MMike and n0s3. Together we manage to coordinate with several of our allies to have constant military operations that cleansed the eUS of enemies one by one and pushed Hungary and Serbia back to their cores. Russia and Mexico got back on the map and we secured congress even for France.
Later I decided to go on a break once we were free of Serbia and Poland as well. The amount of work that had been done during these operations quickly burned me out completely. When you pull off 16 hour days to make sure that things run smoothly you can’t keep up forever. My break took me to Denmark where I started to “2-click” and fight just enough to make sure that I never trail behind in strenght. During this time I didn’t stay updated on the situation of the political side of eUS and now that I am back I can just say that I am shocked to find out what has happened. Shocked to find out that the people that spent hours daily to make sure we got back on the map have been declared disloyal. How is it that players get declared disloyal to eUS for refusing to let the CP mess up the FA and military coordination?
The hypocrisy
The situation that occured was that Wild Owl asked Arrlo(Obliterate) who was the current MoFA of Croatia to tell Croatians to stop with pro-crimean shouts because it upset some Russians. He refused due to it being impossible to stop and Wild Owl for some reason freaks out and decides to order NSC to remove Croatia from the orders. This coming from a person that has been one of the “Kosovo is Kosovo!” shouting players for what seems an eternity. One would think that if you want to shout about IRL situations you should not condemn others for doing the same. To remove an ally from an order list due to “pro-Crimean” shouts from individuals is how you kill your FA completely. If you want to censure your allies and threat to not give military support if they do not listen you need to take a class in how to run Foreign Affairs.
Chain of Command
Some yell that not executing the order that Wild Owl gave was a direct violation of the chain of command. Is it a dictator that we have chosen that can do anything he wants to? Can he decide to ruin our entire FA without anyone going against him? Does loyalty mean that we do anything our POTUS asks of us without a question? I would call that a puppet show. Wild Owl ordered Ilphen to refuse military aid towards a country that we have a written agreement with. Did Wild Owl forget that we have our CUB* agreement? This does not make Ilphen disloyal to eUS, this make Wild Owl disloyal against our allies.
The aftermath
After the whole incident with Ilphen both Libertas and n0s3 were quickly removed as well. The reason behind that they got removed was that “Where one of them are, they all are”. Neither of them were contacted about this beforehand and got a nice suprise when they logged on. N0s3 served 15 months in the NSC and was a strategical master mind behind many operations and served as an advisor to every single CP until his discharge and now he just got kicked out and brandished disloyal. It is simply a disgusting way to thank a person that has spent countless hours to make sure that our military operations go well.
Something I’d like to note is that Wild Owl told Ilphen that he was sorry about his behaviour and said that he overreacted, yet Ilphen didn’t get his access back.
Conclusion
Were orders disobeyed? Yes.
Did these orders break written agreements between the eUS and an ally? Yes.
Does disobeying these orders make someone disloyal towards the country? No.
Is eUS a weaker country when it comes to strategy without these people? Without a doubt.
* The agreement: http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-whpr-misery-loves-company-support-the-us-recruitment-drive--2283108/1/20
TL
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Calling Libertas, Ilphen and n0s3 disloyal is about the biggest bulls**t that you could ever come up with. These people have all put down more time to help eUS than almost any other player.
I realize this article is extremely late, but I thought these people deserved to be honored for their great contribution to our country. To me they will always be eHeroes.
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I wasn't even aware that any of this occured
Most probably don't because this wasn't exactly made public. I guess some meta people do.
Hail N0s3
Hail ilphen
Hail Libertas
... and not to forget: Hail Seppo - f*** yeah!!!
"... I realize this article is extremely late,..."
IT'S NEVER TOO LATE FOR THE TRUTH!
"Calling Libertas, Ilphen and n0s3 disloyal is about the biggest bulls**t that you could ever come up with. "
Quoted for the truth
Lysande!
n0s3 so disloyal
never heard such a bullshit
welcome back HeapSeppo
Did you leave? |:
/me spreads breadcrumbs on the ground
btw n0s3 is a ladyfag
o7
Respect.
Thank you for clarity and putting some events in order.
Oh! A piece of candy!
much lubs seppo, and wb! 🙂
OMG WHERE'S THE PONY?!
n0s3 and ilphen were really great, hardworking members of eUS community, don't lose them because of a stupid incident involving a noobish moron like me. 🙂
Yea you noobish moron! JK of course, love you Arrlo.
You did, however, miss out the bit about one of them leaking stuff out from NSC back to other countries... an important omission, yes? They did great work, and lots of it, but leaking is not something that can be tolerated 🙁
Yes because nobody has ever linked a log from a meeting somewhere. A screenshot from PDB to some person they trust. Quotes to other people that do not have PDB access but are considered trustworthy.
You're making it sound like that they took everything from the PDB and every meeting and just sent it to enemies constantly and not giving a shit. We both know that is not the case, so please just stop trying to paint 3 people that worked hard to help eUS like some kind of traitors.
Sounds like we're back to OPSEC OPSEC OPSEC times then.
> "You did, however, miss out the bit about one of them leaking stuff out from NSC back to other countries... an important omission, yes?"
If you stated what exactly you're talking about we could take a stance on it. Otherwise please stop making up stories just because they serve your purpose. I'm not aware of any incident that involved "leaking stuff from NSC back to other countries".
Artela, I'm entering my UFO and coming to abduct you one more time, because it seems you didn't learn anything from the last time. But this time it's not going to be a beautiful lake where you will return, this time you will be beamed into a volcano.
❤ n0s3y
n0s3y is love
n0s3y is life
Evidently, the sun finally rose in the chilly north pole where Seppo lives!
Hi o/
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Welcome back. o7
btw I used to be HEARMERAWR
Since the only factual part in your article is about the CUB agreement, I'll address that one and ignore the rest.
CUB died when Brazil supported TWO's invasion of the USA. Relevant article here: www.erepublik.com/en/article/2321560/1/20
That being said, carry on politicking. Good luck in your election campaign on the 5th, I hope you enjoy disappointment.
It isn't my place to say but I think Wild Owl has not been very forthcoming.
Always fourth cumming tho.
Go back to getting BHes vs Brazil rainy, or shouting for a Hungary-Romania RW.
We both know you can do better than that, WO. Try harder, Tryhard.
Manipulating much as always?
... oh, the hypocrisy LMAO
Good guy,Cubby!
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I was right there and had a front row seat to that Wild Owl "incident" with Croatia.
That BIG scandal lasted 10 minutes. After me and Pfeiffer talked to Wild Owl, Croatia was back as our #1 priority.
I see no reason at all to have leaked that information to Arrlo for a 10 minute internal affair. The only thing it could have done is damage our relations with Croatia.
Also, Ilphen completely wiping out our IRC channel before rage quitting wasn't the most mature thing to do honestly.
Yet they all lost their accesses and jobs? THAT's the scandal that I'm talking of at least. And yes, the only thing it could have done was hurt our relations with Croatia, which is why you NEVER remove an ally from priority due to a stupid shout from some individual. Guess you've misinterpreted the whole article.
What is more dangerous for the Country? leaking that info or removing that prio for 10 MINUTES? not a week, not a day, 10 MINUTES. Come on, get serious.
So the prio was changed only for 10 minutes? And the only damage that resulted was when one of the people you are supporting leaked the discussion around it to the Croatian MoFA? The wiping the IRC channel thing sounds like it came a lot later and was unrelated (suggesting they all got their accesses back after this affair).
> "What is more dangerous for the Country? leaking that info or removing that prio for 10 MINUTES?"
This article isn't trying to justify a leak, Seppo just explained what it's about. Yet you keep harping on about how the leak would have damaged our relations with Croatia. Are you interested in a serious discussion or not?
> "So the prio was changed only for 10 minutes?"
18 minutes to be exact, plus Croatia was put as #2 instead of #1 after that incident. Additionally, the conversation mentioned in the article didn't exactly help our relations with Croatia.
> "And the only damage that resulted was when one of the people you are supporting leaked the discussion around it to the Croatian MoFA?"
As said, the conversation before wasn't good for our relations with Croatia either.
> "suggesting they all got their accesses back after this affair"
We didn't. Except for NSC, all accesses were taken: forums, IRC, gdocs. Even stuff that the exec isn't meant to interfere with (as the respective institution is solely at disposal of the congress) - which is far beyond necessity. It was rather a witch-hunt than actually necessary to push it that far. And yes, as you said, Avruch: The IRC chan thingy was a lot later. Not saying it was the right thing to do, but it had nothing to do with the initial problem and the measures that were taken.
What's most dangerous is to even start thinking in those directions. "Oh they are spamming shouts about some IRL event, let's try to censure them and if they do not agree we remove them from priority." Next time it might not be just 10 minutes.
It wasn't leaked to Arrlo.
> "That BIG scandal lasted 10 minutes. After me and Pfeiffer talked to Wild Owl, Croatia was back as our #1 priority."
Nope. Croatia was our #1 priority before and our #2 priority after that incident.
> "The only thing it could have done is damage our relations with Croatia."
You're aware of the conversation between Wild Owl and Arrlo, please read it again and tell me if you /really/ think a leak could damage our relations with Croatia any further.
What I think people need to realize is, in this game, when you sign up for a job, it isn't for life. N0s3 did good work, but he was replaced. It happens.
Some of us leave on good terms, others on poor. But in both cases, it's not one party that makes the leave occur, both have a place in it. Trying to peg the blame on but one person is shortsighted and ignorant.
Instead of bitching about the loss, time could better be spent helping newer people step up, and help them get ready to run the country.
As someone who was cast aside, I know it can suck to feel that, but dwelling on it is worse than it actually happening. Move on, live and let live, and kill some Canadians.
Depends on the manner of it. n0s3 and Libertas were not even a part of the ignored the order and were still removed. It's not like we have people enough to just throw people away when they are dedicated to their work. Also, calling them disloyal and trying to put a bad name to them is not cool either.
Im wondering if you know the full situation? Because ilphen certainly did some disloyal things during his dismissal progress.
And n0s3 has been acting holier than thou for months now, and was actively bad mouthing the president and administration. If this were a company, defaming your boss would get you fired, as it should here.
Except when you're fired, Tenshibo, you're typically given written notice and asked to turn your keys in or properly escorted from the premises. How exactly was ilphen able to abuse any privileges after being removed from his position in NSC a month ago? Unless there's even more to the story that you aren't aware of either, I'd venture someone didn't fulfill their duties.
I didn't say everything was handled properly Rainy, as ill feelings were on both sides. And, having worked in a kitchen, I've seen people fired simply by the boss screaming at them. So, the typical idea doesn't always hold true.
> "And n0s3 has been acting holier than thou for months now, and was actively bad mouthing the president and administration"
I've honestly been pondering for about 20 minutes as to how to respond to that - and I didn't really come to a conclusion. I'll just leave it at that: You (as someone who's been advised by me during his PotUS time and as someone who's had contact with me every so often in the PDB and on IRC over several months) should know me better.