The Dysfunctional Election Committee
Winston Hope Smith
OK a quick article for everyone.
It might not be known by those outside my Congress message but the Election Committee has run in to the sand.
In the fall out I have been accused by Komodor64 of trying to dictate how things will be done and that we already have a process.
I ask you read the Full unedited (except for the org log in details)exchange and decide for yourself.
Thanks for reading
Comments
You read, You decide!
AC has been sick in real life, that is why things have stalled. Without leadership sometimes you get chaos, if AC is not better by tomorrow, we have asked raven as VP to step in and set up election, if he can not do it Elete will. We will have a fair and transparent election, it is just taking longer then we expected.
With respect to AC, and I hope he gets better, the issue was not his absence but the muppetry of Kom
The whole plan was dysfunctional from the start. It should have gone public from day one and see what the population concensus was and not just government.
I agree...The suggestion to have a committee and what it was to do was mine.. mistake I now accept as I did not realise that OE would send in a Muppet!
Insulting him really helps 😉
The guy asked to join since he wanted to get more involved with Eire, youre abusing him now. No wonder we have lost so many players.
You are not serious are you...you didn't read the exchanges in the article did you?
Elections committe had one simple job - count the f*cking votes, how hard is that and why some people always makes it complicated?
It took you half of the term to write referendum article and you still havent done it.
Referendum rules are not to be decided by this Committee since they were already decided on the National summit 20 days ago.
What I see above is overcomplicating the simpliest thing in the world.
How about sticking to the decided rules of referendum and letting us vote?
Also what in the world RL elections has with this ones?? Whole Ireland decided the rules, I suggest you stop overcomplicate things, publishing useless logs and do something useful for a change.
You didn't read the above did you? If you did then your biases are shining through.
Tell me Don are you still of the opinion that you can, as dictator, take an active role running eIreland. (by virtue if the dictator role not any other role) If so then we very much have a problem.
(Oh btw if the rules are set as previous announced then you would not qualify as you left for Croatia and were not resident/eIrish for the past 6 months)
Counting votes was the easy bit, ensuring everyone is on the same page is the more difficult bit. I suggested a fairer voting system, it was a rejected, I accepted that.
As for the article I could not get your muppet to even agree that untill the very end.. Read the exchange.. All he wanted to do was count votes.
Dictator is a role requiring lots of log-in time. They must always be ready to push the button.
Making it illegal for the dictator to perform any other roles in government is suicide: eIreland doesn't have enough actives to create the competition for government positions necessary to support that. You'll eventually end up with an inactive dictator during an invasion, or relegating an inactive player to another time-demanding government position.
well if that's the role the people want let them say so. It wasn't, the role agreed was clearly a trained monkey and everybody but Don understood this.
The point is: Dictator is an "on call" job. The trained monkey needs to be logged in shitloads to press the monkey buttons asap when an event occurs. If the monkey isn't allowed to do anything else it will either neglect its duty of attentiveness, or it will https://youtu.be/HJVVGzEbJC0
Still in opinion?
I never said Dictator should be the executive power, but of course it has the right to give advice as much as any other Irish.
Also, I was in Croatia for 3 days, its ridicolois to stick that literally to the rules.
I agree that you should be let run, But the rules you say are already in place would bar you!
Maybe everyone who read your election article took you up wrong....collectively.
Gosh, just get the elections done.
Ok
You candidacy is invalid and won't be include...next...
Lel
Rule says: candidacy has to be in ireland 6 months. I cant find where it says in a row. Or without 3 days break...
Sticking to the rules is one thing, abusing them is the other.
How hard it is to organise a referendum, just get the people vote and count the votes, we all know acceptable candidates and age limit for voters.
Lets allow Kuth or Sawc to run then...it needs to be more specific you know that but cannot say it can you...as it will show Kom stupidity.
Oh, look, another CrOmega moron behaving like the idiot he is. What a surprise.
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Can someone translate that?
Do you really have to tar everyone with same brush from CrOmega?
It's just petty.
why don't you publish every message?
I posted everything in that message but you just lie if you want
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Ok...without me having to go through your links and compare with my article can you insinuate the ones you say I missed
I'm helping you
This is a good example of the problem with Kom
He makes no sense but I can't tell id he stupid, just trying to derail the process or is it a language problem.
Problem is you can't ask him as he just insults you!
Omg🙂
Hostile? believable
Needlessly bureaucratic? believable
It seems like the Election Committee is unclear as to the scope of its objective and authority.
If the EC is attempting to define its own scope of authority, some folks might take issue with that.
Should be more careful with your pm editing there WHS. You blurred out the email, but not the rest of the sentence, making it pretty easy for anyone to guess that much atleast.
Good to see eIreland is still shovelling the same bullshit as ever. AC has a good heart and track record - I'm sure he'll have this sorted despite the usually bickering.
agreed and fixed
Well, of course it's going to be dysfunctional when you publicly publish essentially the full discussion that was private and intended to be confidential. That undermines the whole work of the committee. And I think you did a sloppy job blurring out the email address as Ian alluded to.
It is also unethical to share private messages without the expressed permission of all participants in the conversation, regardless of the content of the messages.
It's reasonable enough for you to be frustrated by the work of the committee, but please take that up with us in private. Doing it in public just makes things worse
you are well aware the reference to dysfunctional refers to the prior before publishing. My name was brought into disrepute I reserve the right to clear my name. You don't need to worry you didn't say enough to warrant the publishing been of concern to you.
Everything he does - he does for political points. Have you ever seen him doing ANYTHING useful? And I mean anything, name me one thing? He never gave a single IEP for defence of Ireland, he never asked anyone to join us fighting, he never used his group of ILP as a good leader who has eIreland as the prio 1 to do more than political articles.
WHS is a party's soldier, not soldier of Ireland.
And since he even made you angry/irritated then I'm sure he was acting as he always does even in this PM.
Making Gormley mad is harder than getting Ireland to be an empire.
Whether you believe what you typed or not has no bearing on this article...this article was about the functioning of the committee.
look people,
1. we already have the candidates
2. we don't need any new rules.
3. erep is one man 1 vote (forget real life)
4. job of the committee is for each member to tally the votes (pm) seperately, and agree on a winner after removing known multi's/invalid votes.
All this article proves is Ireland is still populated by people who always know better than those who set the thing up initially, keep it simple and lets move on, the committees task is to count nothing more, if they can't do that then CP may appoint people who can.
1. No we don;t we only have those who candidated when the the process was in secret. Others may wish to candidate who we not privy to the debate at the time...one of inepts mistakes.
2. Don't we 😛 we will perish on that one as when MUFC wins, and this is all set up so he does, he will do whatever he wants whenever we wants because there are no rules.
3. Already agreed
4. .and all of the above...but hey lets just give the job to MUFC. Wait we already did, wait we didn't he just took it.
1. it wasn't secret people had the opportunity to apply
if you guys don't pull the finger out and do your job as intended the CP, should replace you all with people who will, stop making this complicated, a 5 year old could do what your supposed to do, count votes.
It was only mentioned in Congress...Inept then announced the valid candidates to the public in an article...this is the facts
I have already been asked to be replaced because I would not want my name associated with a predetermined election result.
I have been just shown an article, I had not seen, where Inept called for candidates in public so I withdraw that point ie Point 1
You're abusing your position in Committee to change the rule so it can suit you and in the same time you're accusing me of doing that? I know you don't want me to win and that you started the whole "YOU'LL DO WHATEVER YOU WANT" thing, but that's harming eIreland and you won't get far by doing it.
How about stop being ILP's soldier and become part of eIreland instead?
I'm Dictator for 15 days and nothing has been done without consulting with Government/Congress. I did gave advices and worked on my field (Ministry of Finances) as I would do if I wasn't Dictator anyway. What's your problem man?
Also, about the "PROCESS WAS SECRET" campaign...
How it was a secret?
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-cp-pr-mier-elections-first-step-2528653/1/20
Inept announced it in public and instead of reading it you're attacking people without checking facts, just because you think you're some kind of a ruler here and you have that right.
Let us play the game and do things right.
You had one job...you failed in it...let someone else do it now and stfu.
Oh you're withdrawning 50% of the points which made you write the article now? Until tommorow you maybe realise you failed and withdrawn all "your points".
"I'm Dictator for 15 days and nothing has been done without consulting with Government/Congress. I did gave advices and worked on my field (Ministry of Finances) as I would do if I wasn't Dictator anyway. What's your problem man?" Lets forget your solo run on taxes then...
I already said I had not seen that article and accepted it's bona fides.
I had one job...I attempted to do it right! I was blocked!
I have to take this glorious opportunity to state my disgust at your comment above Nogin!!! "erep is one man 1 vote" There are women who play this game too. Some of them are Culchies from Ulster, but most are a decent human beings who deserve a vote also.
women know its one woman one vote, the problem here is men, they all want to be dictators and make up there own rules.
Now back to the kitchen tayto and finish the dishes and be sure to put out the washing too.
What if, after vote counting it is a draw? I think the committee should have the power to decide that. I would feel happier knowing the committee had decided that.
Yes, it is possible to go into too much detail, but that does not mean that you don't look at the what if questions and try and come up with an answer before the issue occurs.
its very unlikely and if its a draw, the fair thing would be another vote with only the 2 candidates that tied on the paper.