Lies, Damn Lies & Statistics [Reponse to BB]
Sean Power
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1. eCommunism is not just RL Communism in the game.
Agreed-ish
2. eCommunism is not oppressive, like RL Communism.
Agreed-ish
3. eCommunism cannot hurt newer players.
Wrong-ish
BB said : “This argument seems to come out of the idea that new players want the system of economy that we previously used."
eCommunism, as the sole system in a nation, can limit the retention of certain types of citizens. This is based on the fact that those who do not have an opportunity to express themselves in the way they wish, through building a business empire or whatever, will either leave eIreland or eRepublik. Basically you would be correct if everybody who plays and ever will play is an eCommunist or at the very least has no interest in pursuing a gameplay experience through private enterprise.
BB said “People advocating it offer little evidence that new players would prefer one system over the other if they had a full summary of both.”
Well said, so let’s offer them both systems by keeping a viable private market running alongside community and goal driven communes. Eradicating one or the other limits our potential population growth.
4. eCommunism doesn’t hurt the economy.
Wrong-ish
BB said : “eCommunism hurts the greedy.”
But eCommunism puts downward pressure on a local currency’s value as demand dries up, cutting the purchasing power of anyone holding IEP. This is lessened somewhat by market price reduction due to reduced demand for goods. This loss of value affects anyone converting stored IEP to gold for boosters or perhaps to another currency to leave an eCommunist paradise which isn’t their cup of tea. Either anyone holding IEP is greedy or BB might be wrong.... you decide
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BB said : “ [eCommunism] is working in Ireland right now.”
Last time I checked we had a mixed economic system.
5. eCommunism doesn’t hurt the government's gold income.
Wrong-ish
“Monetary market adjustments”, along with donations, are said to have always been the “mainstay of government gold income”. In relation to the monetary market adjustments it seems that BB accepts that IEP can be used to source gold through the MM. However there are two impacts which eCommunism make to lessen the governments gold income in relation to this gold revenue method.
a) There’s less IEP being taken in through taxes to convert to gold. This would be fine if it wasn’t for ...
b) IEP has lost some value due to a decrease in demand for it.
Therefore there’s less IEP to get get gold from, and each IEP is valued less because of eCommunisms attack on the viability of a private market existing.
Donation based gold sounds p awesome doesn’t it. We’ve already got it apparently but we would be far more reliant on this element to source gold should there be an eCommunist regime. Although I don’t understand why a Government which has to beg with greater frequency for gold can be considered to have a superior economic system ??!
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Sorry Sean, I know there are some words in your article but my gawd that bondage -ish chick is smokin'
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Courtesy of a certain numerical chan located between 3 and 5 😉
I read the article, but that chick made me forget! lol
What article?
Lack... of... blood... to... brain...
lol what board is she from? 😛
Thought it was another Gonzo article going by the title.
Lies? Yet the worst you say about any of BBs points is that they are Wrong-ish. Wrong-ish does not = Lies imo. If that's the case you've been lying through your teeth for years lol
Statistics? Did I miss them? Don't see any there.
Stop posting pictures of your sister FFS! 🙂
Nice boots!
As I said in your last article, A country which is completely eCommunist is an impossibility and so debating what is potential right or wrong about it is only trivial.
I wrote a response to this, and eRep deleted it on me.
Never mind capitalism, I'm going to overthrow the codemonkeys responsible for this farce...
Go get 'em BB!! I'm sure here are quite a few who will assist as needed
Guys who do not like eCommunism, don't like it because they don't like Communism. And the guys who say eCommunism isn't Communiam, do no favour by using Communist/Stalin/Red total communist images.
But don't take my word for it: Read my book on it for the bargain price of 100IEP, available from every capitalist pig near you.
Nice rebuttal Sean.
@ Ibhoy : 6 outta 13 comments on this thread are about the girl (damn this kinda makes it 7 😉) Title as intended to be intentionally sensationalist and only slightly content related 😛
@ Connell : Nobody had said the "myths" in the manner BB had described them because they were so definitive. That's why there's so many "-ish"s... to denounce that type of absolutism which was aimed at his straw men and avoided many of the issues raised in my previous article while spouting idealogical rhetoric.
Whether eCommunism in a pure form is impossible I'm not sure. The admin tax limits have made it more difficult (from which we can maybe infer that they believe eCommunism style high taxes hurts player retention?) But by raising the minimum wage so that private industry is impractical it could come about.
However I don't think this is trivial in the sense that the whole purpose of my last two articles has been to show that a zealous backing of either economic system of the extreme right or left is detrimental to our community. Despite the fact you state it's impossible, some people continue to espouse the ideology. Should enough people do so they can harm the balance to such a degree that it has a negative effect on our community and economy.
So let's focus on discussing the ideal balance, but this can only be done on a rational basis once the benefits of the mixed market economy are accepted as practical policy over the idealogical based eCommunists and eCapitalists. It's not long ago I was seeing peoples fears over the IA communes effect on the nation dismissed as based on personal interest with regard for the community.
If co-existence is accepted then that dismissal should be replaced with an evaluation of the balance between the two sectors of the economy with the goal of finding the ideal equilibrium.
Thank heavens I read to the end. she was worth it
^ All your answers are eSocialism, a good balance between eCommunism and eCapitalism. Yes we will still have a lot of private sector along with government owned companies where people can voluntarily work in the communes. eSocialism!
"Never mind capitalism, I'm going to overthrow the codemonkeys responsible for this farce..."
Left and right unite to destroy admins? :'D
Lovely lovely picture 10/10
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/the-esocialist-economy-and-ecapitalism-1690503/1/20
A full eCommunistic is not possible and so talking about why there shouldn't be one IS simply trivial. That's my point.
btw a high minimum wage would actually be more of a problem for communes than capitalists.
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