How Much Is Detention of Russian Protestors Undemocratic?
Shayan Rmz
Hello Everyone
It has been a long time since the last time I wrote.
And I don't have the intention to write long.
If you ask me, surely the detention of peaceful protestors is repressive and undemocratic.
But I believe a more accurate answer follows after the analysis of the commonality of such issues.
I invite you to take a few minutes of your precious time and join me in reading a page of the book Paradoxes of Democracy written by Prof. Thomas Dye, a political science professor at Florida State University.
Consider please that Conclusions may vary from person to person and I'm not willing to deliberately change anyone else's mind or impose any ideas on anyone. And I hope everyone acts tolerantly toward opposing ideas in the comment section.
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Repressive behavior is typical of elites who feel threatened in crises. The Alien and Sedition Acts (179😎
, passed in the administration of John Adams, closed down opposition newspapers and jailed their editors. Although most of these Acts expired in 1801, the Alien Enemies Act is still in effect.31 Abraham Lincoln suspended the writ of habeas corpus (the requirement that authorities bring defendants before a judge and show cause for their detention) during the Civil War. In the wake of World War I, Congress passed the Espionage Act, which outlawed “any disloyal, profane, scurrilous, or abusive language intended to cause contempt, scorn, contumely, or disrepute” to the government. Socialist presidential candidate Eugene V. Debs was imprisoned for speaking against the war; his conviction was upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court, as were convictions of other antiwar protesters of that period.
Shortly after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, President Franklin Roosevelt authorized removal and internment of Japanese-American citizens living on the West Coast. The U.S. Supreme Court upheld this flagrant violation of the Constitution. Not until 1988 did the U.S. Congress vote to make reparations and public apologies to the surviving victims.
(I know reading takes a lot of effort, rest your beautiful eyes with some ... beers! ... YES ... beers!)
During the Cold War, the U.S. government prosecuted top leaders of the Soviet-allied Communist Party of the United States (CPUSA) for violating the Smith Act, which made it unlawful “to knowingly and willfully advocate, abet, advise, or teach the duty, necessity, or propriety of overthrowing any government in United States by force or violence.” Again, the U.S. Supreme Court upheld their convictions. Not until the 1960s did the Court begin to reassert freedom of expression, including the advocacy of revolution.
In response to the terrorist attack in Oklahoma City in 1995, the U.S. Congress passed the Anti-Terrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996. This law expanded government powers of search, surveillance, and detention in a manner similar to those already granted in the fight against child pornography and organized crime. Following the terrorist attack of September 11, 2001, Congress moved swiftly to further enhance government authority by enacting the USA PATRIOT Act, officially the Uniting and Strengthening America Act by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism of 2001. President Bush and Attorney General John Ashcroft successfully lobbied Congress to increase the federal government’s powers of searches, seizures, surveillance, and detention of suspects. The concerns of civil libertarians were largely swept aside. The act was passed nearly unanimously in the Senate (98–1) and overwhelmingly in the House (357–66) with the support of both Democrats and Republicans. Most provisions have been renewed under the Obama administration.
What factors affect a willingness to trade off restrictions on civil liberties in order to provide for safety and security? Political science research suggests that the greater people’s sense of threat, the greater their support for restrictions on civil liberties.32 The lower people’s trust in government, the less willing they are to trade off civil liberties for security. Liberals are less willing to trade off civil liberties than moderates or conservatives. Overall it seems clear the commitment to civil liberties among U.S. adults is highly contingent on their concerns about threats to national or personal security.
P.S. I'm not Russian in real.
Thank you for your time.
Yours Truly
Shayan
Comments
I hope to see a nice gentle discussion among enthusiasts here:
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How Much Detention of Russian Protestors Is Undemocratic?
https://www.erepublik.com/en/article/how-much-detention-of-russian-protestors-is-undemocratic--2749865
If someone does evil things this doesn't mean everyone else should do them.
You are just looking for excuses.
Well
I agree with you
The main reason I wrote this article was that I saw western media are demonizing another country for doing similar acts that has happened in the west.
Otherwise, yes, the detention of peaceful protestors is not democratic.
Liberal idiots are just as bad as communist satraps.
Comparing the PATRIOT Act to what is going on now in Russia reveals either a shocking amount of ignorance or a willful desire to use false equivalence in an attempt to normalize repulsive, ant-democratic, indecent behavior. The rest of it, you will note, has to go back decades, even more than a century, to try to wash away the thuggish behavior of your government. The US has apologized and paid reparations to the victims of the Japanese internment, for example, which is widely considered one of the most shameful events in our history. Your country is what it is. It is doing what it is doing. And the world can see it, and is judging.
With full respect my friend
Please read the text carefully:
1- As I said in the text I'm not Russian, not even close to being Russian. So I have no interest in making Russia seem better or not.
2- Thomas Dye is explaining that liberties get diminished in times of crisis and shows examples in support of saying that this has happened in history and is repeating
3- I acknowledged in the very beginning that such acts are anti-democratic.
I don't know why you should have prejudices about me based on a color of flag in my profile and ignore my words.
I have to add I had no prior intention by only making examples of US history
That's because studying US is my field of study and I have not enough information about other countries
I apologize for mistaking you for a Russian. Other than that, everything I said is correct. Your post amounts to nothing more than "whataboutism," an attempt to deflect attention from, and even normalize, behavior that could easily end up destroying the world.
I like the picture
Good old times, peace not war https://youtu.be/nqfqkaZJZks
nice music buddy
It reminded me of my childhood
I was 14 when wars in my country started, you are right, when wars start freedom of people is lost, even today 22 years after wars ended they call me traitor if I disagree (dislike their post)... they watch too much brainwashing TV I guess
"I was 14 when wars in my country started"
Sorry to hear that buddy 🙁
Western politicians doesn't have a right to blame somebody else because they did and unfortunately still do and spread "democracy" all around globe by bombing other countries which are not important even to mention on BBC or CNN. Did any western country protest about bombing and killing civilians in Syria, Afganistan, Iraq, Libia, Serbia, Cuba etc? How come they dare to say a word now? Because they have some interest in Ukraine of course. Biden's son has some dirty business to finish and earn some bloody money in Ukraine first. Right?
Пора бы научиться писАть по русски.
Я не знаю чего вы ещё ждёте....
Ж))
Я изучаю русский язык
Нужно несколько лет 😁
Есть известное выражение:
"When in Rome, do as the Romans do."
В нынешней ситуации: решили написать в еРоссии - пишите по-русски. Или хотя бы в самом простом google-translate.
Мой текст был копией из английской книги.
Я боялся, что гугл-переводчик все испортит.
Зачем упоминать русских в заголовке, если в статье про них ни слова, ради кликов?
Привожу примеры из США. Во время кризиса они вводят ограничения для своих граждан. Я сказал, что в России и в других странах мира то же самое.
Это из гугл-переводчика, надеюсь на правильном русском языке.
As you subsequently stated a democratic country should not lawfully detain citizens just for protesting but Russia is not a democratic society. Many citizens have left because of this.
Can you remember any case in the US history, when peaceful protest of one person (just a random person, not a leader or famous person) caused detention? That's the reality in Russia atm. The US has a lot of space for repressions compared to Russia.
Если тебя держат в заложниках, то моргни два раза.
Ж))
In my opinion, it is normal to be understanding towards demonstrations in countries and not to take them into custody,
however, demonstrations from outside Russia are used as a show against Russia, in which case it would be right to take them into custody but stay within the limits of humane conversations.
Unfortunately, human rights can't go beyond just being the west's bullshit, the west doesn't reflect its own problems outside, and uses the human rights trump card against its rivals, and are we coming to these traps?
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