Finland Betrayed! eUS Soldier Attacked! [REPRINT]
Fitisin
The article below and accompanying notes were written by Jon Malcolm. I am re-printing his article at his request, without editorial comment. It really doesn't need any...anyway, here you go:
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Hi,
I’m Jon Malcom and I originally wrote this article.
I have recently asked several members of the media to reprint my article, not because I was bored and needed stuff to do, but simply because from what I know my article was only in the media for around 3-6 hours. It was third away from the most voted article in Social Interactions and Entertainment.
I want to makes something clear to all of you who read this. I have never reported an article in which I felt the eUS Military/JCS was being attacked, exposed, or trolled.
I will be honest I didn’t like the articles that said that kind of stuff but I believe in the freedom of the press and if people want to write it then fine.
I cannot control what you are going to say in the comments below.
If you don’t like what I say or write that is fine but I wish you would write an article in reply or call up a radio show and tell me instead of yanking my article for “vulgarity”. As my article only contained three words of profanity and was not littered with cursing. If you feel my article is vulgar then all I ask is that you would simply unsubscribe or not read anymore and not report myself or others that I ask to rewrite articles to the admins.
Note: This article was pulled for vulgarity. I have since edited it so that the profanity has been censored with asterisks. From what I saw in the comments on a previous article it seems a lot of people want facts, so I try to give you the whole log as I received it, I apologize if dirty words offend you but I am trying to get reports out as unedited as possible.
Recent update: Vanek has apologized for his actions towards Kijiman.
-Thank you.
The following conversation took place on the evening of the 25th of September, in the private congress room between Vanek the NSC Chair and Kijiman a 2nd Lt. in the Training Corps which is lead by the JCS.
All of the following comments I made are always underlined and bolded. I may bold parts of the story to show a point but every time I write it's bolded and underlined.
18:02 Vanek26 [TC]Kijiman
18:03 [TC]Kijiman Oi
18:03 Vanek26 [TC]Kijiman
18:03 [TC]Kijiman Vanek26 o/
18:03 Vanek26 y you in an organization that hates America
18:03 [TC]Kijiman 😮
18:04 [TC]Kijiman Y u say nonsense things
18:04 Vanek26 Cause your leaders refuse to follow the President of the United State's Orders.
Hey Vanek y u provoke members of the eUS Military in a chatroom when they do nothing wrong to you?
More sexy Finnish women to follow!
18:04 Vanek26 Thus America's orders
18:04 [TC]Kijiman As I've said before
18:04 *** Snorunt30|Moon-Zombies is now known as Snorunt30
18:04 Vanek26 And even if they didn't like A^BNC ( A^2 away name on IRC)
18:04 [TC]Kijiman And I'll say again
18:04 Vanek26 Its a matter of not fighting to defend the USA against Spain
18:05 Vanek26 [TC]Kijiman there is nothing you can say to justify this.
18:05 [TC]Kijiman I'm busy being American somewhere else, regardless of if that place is where the national orders line up
18:05 A^BNC *sigh
18:06 [TC]Kijiman He now points to this article here.
18:06 Vanek26 [TC]Kijiman
18:06 Vanek26 that doesn't help America
18:06 Vanek26 at all
18:06 Vanek26 Finland is a small country
18:06 Vanek26 in a bad timezone
18:07 Vanek26 sucks to be them
Yep sucks to be you if your not a big country or If your a small country in a bad timezone too bad.
18:07 Vanek26 but it won't bring us any damage of significance
18:07 Vanek26 You can't be fighting for America if you won't fight WITH America
18:08 Vanek26 [TC]Kijiman how is not fighting against Spain help America
18:08 Vanek26 explain this to me?
18:08 Vanek26 please
18:08 [TC]Kijiman How does fighting against Spain in a revenge campaign help America?
18:08 [TC]Kijiman Besides resource bonuses ofc
18:08 Vanek26 You are joking
18:09 [TC]Kijiman And besides
18:09 [TC]Kijiman Allies help America, and we're helping our allies
Ok here is where Vanek reveals what he thinks of America’s allies. Now remember that Vanek is the head of the NSC who coordinates when and where the USAF/militias will fight.
Yes this guy is responsible for not only the USAF but helping her allies.
Keep that in mind Finland, or any country!
18:09 Vanek26 I just explained that
18:09 Vanek26 Finland has shi* for damage
18:09 [TC]Kijiman Sometimes we fight against Spain, sometimes we don't-
True, the eUS Military doesn’t take orders from the Government and would you after learning this?
18:09 Vanek26 and spends it all on finland
18:09 Vanek26 Fuc* you [TC]Kijiman
18:09 Vanek26 you are a retard
So if you decide to question Vanek you are a retard and you get cursed at.
It gets worse, hold on.
18:09 Cromstar Vanek26, this is not the channel for this convo.
I love this, Cromstar is trying to stop Vanek from blowing his lid. Yet it doesn’t work.
18:10 Vanek26 Cromstar I'm angry
18:10 Vanek26 with retarded comments
18:10 *** Fionia joined #eus-senate
18:10 +++ |Glorious_Failure| has given halfop to Fionia
18:10 Vanek26 like this
18:10 Vanek26 Cromstar I'm angry
18:10 Vanek26 with retarded comments
18:10 *** Fionia joined #eus-senate
18:10 +++ |Glorious_Failure| has given halfop to Fionia
18:10 Vanek26 like this
Seems like Vanek was having a conniption fit. Possibly yelling “Hulk Mad” while hitting the keyboard?
Maybe that Angry German Kid?
18:10 Cromstar- I understand. But this channel is not the place.
Once again Cromstar tries to stop what’s happening.
18:11 A^BNC yeah
18:11 A^BNC goto #eus-Congress
18:11 A^BNC that channel never gets activity.
18:11 A^BNC lol
When Vanek is being a jerk, the POTUS tells him to go to somewhere else instead of telling him to stop?
Great job Mr. President.
18:11 [TC]Kijiman I'll be happy to talk to you wherever Vanek
18:11 [TC]Kijiman Make your own channel if you really want to
18:11 Vanek26 I took that off my autojoin months ago
18:11 Vanek26 [TC]Kijiman you are too fuc*ing thick to convince.
Telling people they are too thick to convince...good strategy.
If he is so thick then why was Vanek talking to him in the first place?
18:12 [TC]Kijiman To convince me that I am un-American for being in a military that's not fighting against Spain?
18:12 Vanek26 Yep
Finally something smart from Vanek.
18:12 Vanek26 you aren't unAmerican
Back to someting stupid.
18:12 Vanek26 but you are hurting America
18:13 Vanek26 and you aren't in a military
Sounds like a little kid saying “if you don’t play my way then you don’t get to use my yard”
18:13 Vanek26 you are in a militia.
Apparently if you don’t agree with the eUS Government then you aren’t in a “military” even though they were the military that consistently fought for the eUS all these years?
IRC CONVERSATION ENDS
I present this log as evidence that a non-JCS member was attacked for doing nothing and for defending what he says and believes in.
Remember what I said about a government lie?
What do we always hear?
We don’t hate the soldiers, we just hate the JCS.
Liar.
Comments
You have been visited by the drama llama!
Fitisin is obviously trying to start problems, as always. But this doesn't effect me, so lulz ahead!
😁 agreed. Main thing I'd like to point out is the "You aren't in a military. You are in a militia." thing
I'm pretty sure that vanek26 is, like me, in neither a military or militia...but is sitting in front a computer clicking an orange-ish button that reads 'Fight'
When I write articles about the eUS Marines, I'm under no illusion that I am, in fact, a Marine.
Like Romo from the Dallas Cowboys...i'm pretty sure he doesn't think he's a real cowboy 😛 just playin' a game with a team named the Cowboys.
#perspective
I don't see how this article serves anything, tbh. Vanek is an ass, everyone knows that already, but that doesn't mean he isn't an excellent NSC chair.
While how he may have said things in a pretty harsh manner, he is quite correct. You have to realize limitations in regards to out of the way small countries. If someone large wants to annihilate them, it's gonna happen, regardless of whether or not we wasted damage there. I'm not saying it doesn't suck for the small countries, but the eUS really isn't a superpower these days. We win when we concentrate our firepower over a window of priorities, not by spreading our damage out all day long.
Obviously, that rule is disregarded when we're in our primetime, but that only lasts long enough to lock down maybe 5 minis? Then once our Euro enemies wake up, said campaign is pretty much lost unless EDEN takes an interest. Those are the facts of the matter and Vanek, although not exactly friendly, was right. It IS wasted damage.
And people say I was drama llama when I quit the JCSF...
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@Liquid Oxygen: Vanek might be correct from a pure, damage-must-always-be-used-to-win perspective, but the large part of this UNWINNABLE game is building and maintaining relationships between allies, something that even those in the government would admit is necessary. In fact, your comment that "the eUS really isn't a superpower these days" highlights the importance of maintaining good relationships with our allies - ALL of them.
The truth of this game as the poles are aligned is that, except on a rare freak day, the eUS and its allies could be vastly outgunned by ONE. The ease with which the recent wipe of the eUS was accomplished by ONE only serves to point out that, if they choose, they can do whatever they want.
So on any day, it's really a choice on how to look at it:
1) "Who are we going to throw under the bus today?"
OR
2) "Who are we going to try to help today?"
tl;dr Helping an ally is never "wasted" damage since you can't ever "win" this game.
To be honest you have to think about it in terms of capability. It serves the security of those smaller nations to have us keeping those big countries busy in important battles. While I applaud you in theory, in application, we'll lose every single battle due to not focusing our damage properly if we follow that doctrine.
Having friends is nice, framing it as "betrayal" or throwing someone under the bus is hyperbolic, imo. It's a matter of efficiency. We can't BE everywhere. Sure, we could put a prio on them and even win a couple minis for them in the prime time, but in the end, it'd only delay the inevitable.
Hey Liquid Oxygen,
Let me try to explain something in somewhat relative terms.
When people don't like what you do (some) you can call upon your allies (Fitizen/Custer) and ask them to help you (this article).
What about if their papers didn't have a couple thousand subs, is it going to be as popular (damage)?
It doesn't matter. Because of the trust I had built with these two guys they gladly stepped up and helped.
I'm not saying that's a bad thing, Jon. I'm simply trying to explain Vanek's reasoning from a more basic and less hostile viewpoint. I've got several eFinns in the SF, one in a command position and he's never complained that we didn't put his country higher in the priorities list.
I understand everyone's position very clearly, I'm just trying to provide some insight into OURS, as well. Everyone needs perspective in an unbiased way, imo.
Sure, I've been an asshole in regards to some of the things being said, but in the same way people on THAT side of the fence feel strongly about their community, we feel just as strongly about ours. Surely there's some common ground there, right?
Rahm Emanuel is an ass and a half, but nobody says he's not the right man for the job, be it Chief of Staff of the White House or mayor of Chicago.
Vanek26 is an angry, bitter dick, but he does a good job of securing our eNation's security.
Would I like it if there were fewer angry, bitter dicks in this game? Yes. Until then, though, put them to work where they'll do the most good.
Vanek26 doesn't work in player retention or diplomacy, and here we see why. His job is to ensure that if any ass-kicking goes on, it's our boot and Spain's ass. The trick to dealing with any angry, bitter dick is simple: If it's not your job, *don't*. Just pretend he's not there.
Hey just to put my own insight as well.
I am cool with both sides, yes I agree Vanek has "creative" ways to come about things. But not going to say hes doing a shitty job in his department. Hes been doing great.
I personally agree with helping our allies. Because without them we would not be where we are vs. Spain, they would still own half our country at this moment. While Finland is a smaller country and yes they will constantly be invaded and never have thier own land back while Estonia is still there. It does not mean we cant help them at all. While we help them, they can help us one day.
If the eUS keeps being greedy with our damage and putting towards Spain, the chances of never getting allied help is going to suck.
Remember were in a timezone were only a few people can fight for us in our prime time. Therfore when its overnight and early morning were going to need help allied help to ensure the battle is won.
Dont forget Austrais, we won the battles in our primetime, but overnight yeah it was over from there. What the JCS is doing fighting for allies is more helpful then you guys would think.
Im not on the JCS side by any means. I'm both sides. Im just not personally the guy to say fight for the eUS only.
@ youngHOOD
You make it sound like the USAF never fights for our allies. I can assure that that is not the case, and we fight for our allies when the help is requested and / or needed.