Exercitiu de aliante !
vladb
In urma destramarii TWO,a diferitelor scenarii de aliante m-am decis sa ma duc pe egov sa creez diferite scenarii de damage.Am folosit urmatorul link .Daca doriti sa facesti si voi diferite scenarii va recomand sa selectati toate tarile ,sa exportati statisticile lunare intr-un xls si acolo va fi mai usor sa adaugati,stergeti,etc.
Cum am avut destule discutii cu privire la o lume bipolara ,o lume cu 3 aliante am incercat diferite configuratii.La un moment dat pentru ca nu puteam sa grupez realist tarile am ajuns la o configuratie cu 4 blocuri dupa cum urmeaza :
Team A este o alianta despre care se discuta ca ar fi deja cristalizata si are urmatoarea componenta :Albania ,BiH,Croatia,Poland,Spain,USA,UK.
Team B este un bloc care poate fi denumit ca ex TWO apropiata de Serbia si are urmatoarea componenta 😒
erbia,Slovenia,Hungary,Thailand,New Zealand.
Team C este un bloc de tari cu care eRO a colaborat inca de pe vremea EDEN si a colaborat si dupa destramarea EDEN :Argentina ,Romania,Greece,Turkey.
Team D este un bloc de tari din CoT:Bulgaria ,Chile,FYROM,Russia,Indonesia,Mexico.
Am adunat damageul lunar al tarilor si l-am impartit pe divizii si am ajuns la niste rezultate interesante .
Div I
Rezultatele defalcate pentru Div I sunt foarte echilibrate cu un foarte mic avantaj pentru Team A.
Div II
Pentru aceasta divizie se observa un mic avantaj pentru Team D (ex CoT) si Team C (blocul RO) comparativ cu celelalte 2 blocuri.
Div III
Din nou o situatie foarte echilibrata cu Team D (ex CoT) avand un usor avantaj.
Div IV
In aceasta divizie Team D (ex CoT) are un deficit clar fata de celelalte 3 blocuri .
In afara de faptul ca cele 4 blocuri sunt destul de echilibrate in toate cele 4 divizii ar fi de mentionat faptul ca Team C (cu Argentina) si Team D (cu Chile) ar avea un avantaj in timpul noptii europene in fata celorlate 2 blocuri ,blocul Team B fiind cel mai dezavantajat (Team A avand si USA in componenta).
Am incercat sa grupeze cele 4 blocuri pe baza antagonismelor si situtia sta cam asa:
Team A -Team B:Croatia-Serbia,Polonia-Serbia,Spania-Slovenia sunt antagonisme care cu greu pot fi trecute.
Team A-Team C😒
pania-Argentina,Spoland-Romania sunt antagonisme greu de trecut si intr-o oarecare masura si Turcia-Spoland.
Team A-Team 😨
Exista antagonisme gen Spoland-FYROM,USA-Indonesia,Croatia-Bulgaria dar nu sunt extrem de puternice (dar prin numarul lor nu cred ca cele 2 blocuri pot lucra impreuna).
Team B-Team C:In afara de Ro-Hu si Serbia-Turcia nimic demn de mentionat.
Team B-Team 😨
Majoritatea antagonismelor sunt recente gen Chile-NZ sau faptul ca FYROM s-a considerat tradata de Serbia cand Grecia a intrat in TWO.Cred ca e dificil ca cele 2 blocuri sa lucreze impreuna mai ales din cauza lipsei de incredere in urma caderii blocului CoT-TWO.
Team C-Team 😨
Argentina-Chile,Grecia-FYROM, si intr-o oarecare masura Ro-BG face aceasta asociere de nereusit.
Cum blocurile nu pot conlucra in totalitate unele cu altele singura solutie ar fi sa incerce ruperea blocurilor si atragerea membrilor din alte blocuri in blocul ei .Si cine va reusi sa faca acest lucru va avea cea mai de succes alianta in viitor,mie imi ramane sa sper ca Romania va face parte din acea alianta 🙂
Rezultatele pentru cele 4 blocuri per divizii aici
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nice article o/
Thanks .It actually took me more time to get ER to show the image in the article then make the graphs themselves 😉
Serbia have in reserve special MU ''BOMBASI'' strongest MU in D1 and D2 but not fight. Not jet 🙂. Str D1 10k+ D2 +20k
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Hail Romania
Buna analiza. Si ar fi un joc interesant sa iasa asa 🙂
Mi-e greu sa cred ca va iesi asa de aceea concluzia la sfarsit este ca cine va reusi sa destrame aceste blocuri si atraga membrii in blocul propriu va reusi o alianta ce va domina.Cheia este sa te misti repede dar in acelasi timp sa nu te grabesti 🙂
Montenegro? 😛
B+C>A+D o/
Good analysis!
Raw damage ,yes B+C >A+D but if you look at the time frames you will see that in the european night time A+D>B+C so there is an equilibrium and even an advantage to be gain by A+D.
mi-e greu sa cred ca vor fi 4 aliante... si 3 aliante mi-e greu sa cred pentru ca meru vor fi 2v1 si experientele cu cotwo vs eden e graitoare. vor trebui sa se faca MARI COMPROMISURI din partea unor tari ca romania, grecia, serbia, turcia, polonia, mkd, daca vor sa ramana pe harta. cine nu va face compromisuri va fi sters.
imi cer scuze pentru acorduri. is obosit. sper sa imi acceptati scuzele
Am spus in articol ca sunt blocuri si cei care vor reusi sa atraga cei mai multi membri din celelate blocuri vor avea o alianta 🙂
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Frumos articol
Doar vreau sa mentionez ca se incearca bipolaritatea, adica 2 aliante mari si late.
4 aliante majore ar fi chiar ceva nou
3 cade, si nu prea vrea nimeni, pentru ca implicit, si aproape intotdeauna 2 din ele se vor alia impotriva celeilalte 🙂
E destul de probabil sa ramana 2 aliante (daca nu chiar la inceput probabil dupa ceva timp) ,ideea era sa arat ca exista un echilibru intre cele 4 blocuri si ca cele 4 blocuri nu pot conlucra in totalitate unele cu altele asa ca daca se doreste crearea unei aliante puternice trebuie sa incerci sa atragi membrii din celelalte blocuri .
I like the analysis because it may be a realistic way to group the countries considering that even between the groups that are closer to each other have a couple of countries which stop the two groups from getting together but allow most of them to work together in many circumstances.
There are still a number of countries that you do not account for in your analysis, which have limited impact on the split for D4, but they can have a significant impact in D1 and D2
It's true that there are countries that could make the difference (Portugal among them) but 1) I was not sure in which block to add them and 2)I wanted to make a point that any additions to a block or a block that could "steal" a member of another block would have an advantage.
Ok I understand. I think that if a block steals a member and take predominance over the other, probably the blocks will re-arrange themselves and we will follow the route of bipolarisation again. Probably that will happen with time irrespective of countries moving from this initial appearance of equilibrium.
In respect to were the smaller countries will go, I think you just have to look to whom they are being occupied currently. For instances, Brasil will fight against Argentina block, Canadá and Portugal against Spain's Block. France depends if Serbia or Poland will give them some deal (strategically France can create tension between the two ex-TWO blocks), Scandinavia against the Baltics (which are likely to be in the Polish block).
Smaller countries may prefer to be outside the blocks and ask for friendly support for countries belonging to two or three blocks. Or they can feel more comfortable committing to one block and in this way having a more stable source of support. The blocks themselves may prefer reducing the number of smaller countries involved to reduce the friction with the other blocks.
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I think there was a chance that Brazil would have gone with Argentina if they managed to break a deal ,however I do not see who the "broker" of the deal could be so most probably they would go on opposing sides.
Canada is an interesting situation because ussually they go with USA but I think USA will sacrifice them for the sake of Spoland .I expect Spoland to move against Argentina as an Arg-USA conflict seems to be probable in the next couple of days.
As Portugal goes I have doubts on adding it in Team B or C 🙂,that's the main reason why it's not listed on any team .
France seems to be quite fed up of the way USA has left it always behind when new alliances are negociated (I think USA makes some wrong moves by entering alliances where it's going to end up as a minority and they do not seem to understand this lesson).I also do not see France going with Serbia so France seems to be in a very weak position.
The Baltics will probably go with Poland but Poland said that their new alliance will be small and only core members will have a word to say in the way the alliance will go .Spoland already secured it's Baltic border (there isn't a strong opponent that could come through that area) so from a strategic stand point a buffer or Baltic satelites does not make a lot of sense.At the same time it's worth having some allies where the excess damage can be poured if needed.
Well I can give you my views on that.
Personally I do not believe in brokers for the Brasil/Argentina conflict. Those are proud countries, someone putting themselves in between would create more problems than solutions. Not sure if a solution will be found, since Brasil community is broken, not even fighting against Argentina brings them together (which is strange) so any deal with Argentina would create even more radicalisation of positions in Brasil.
Canada is not clear. Spain will likely try to regain bonus in Canada but its not easy to keep, since Canada is likely to get support from ex-EDEN countries and ex-CoT countries. This will be a stress factor between Team D and Team A, unless someone is able to brake a deal were Canada keeps some regions and concedes other to Spain and possible USA.
Portugal Team C, but keeping good relationships with some of Team B countries.
France, the way I see it will align themselves with the better deal that Serbia or Poland will offer. Today Poland appears to be better positioned to give something to France compared to Serbia, more importantly, Spoland would love to make France RW release Aquitane in order for Spain to take it. The conflict between Team A and Team B could start here.
Irrespective of being or not in one alliance, the Baltics will be closer to Team A in my opinion.
felicitari pt munca depusa !
2 aliante si niste tari neutre sa o ramana
Altceva ar fi numa provizoriu...
Interesanta analiza. Incerc sa o reanalizez din perspectiva unei stranse colaborari a eMD cu eRO. Pentru eMD suna bine ceea ce prognozezi. Dar si mai bine ar suna daca in grupul C ar putea fi atrasa si Serbia.
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Interesanta analiza, dar cred ca ai uitat Portugalia, care la diviziile mici face diferenta.
Nu am uitat ,nu prea am stiut daca sa o adaug la B sau C 🙂
unde e China?
mai conteaza China?
Aha. China nu conteaza dar Tailanda conteaza 😊
Am incercat sa fac blocurile cat mai realiste/eterogene cu putinta si China nu as sti in ce bloc sa o asez .Pe langa asta deoarece sunt multi expati in China damageul trecut in dreptul Chinei nu se va duce neaparat in alianta/blocul Chinei ci se poate duce si in alta parte (depinzand de comunitatile de origine ale jucatorilor "chinezi"),asta ar fi rezultat in niste statistici in care damageul Chinei ar fi mers la un bloc cand in realitate damageul Chinei ar fi fost impartit intre cel putin 2 blocuri.
felicitari pentru articolo v
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interesting point of view. in Chile many people we are talking.... not in gov in sign a mpp with Argentina. and create a new block. if that happens the two countries can deal the differences between Bulgaria- Romania for example.. that would be a interesting development. but i dont see much future.
sorry if there is any gramatical error.
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Voted!!, good analysis. eR should be played in another way if we wanna have fun and recover the game. Four teams with a damage more or less similar would be a good way for all of us.
Team 😨 +Paraguay
Team A: +Brazil (maybe)
v y s excellent article
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Nice article
buna analiza ! v
(a*(b+d)+c*d)/ a+c- b*e = toata lumea sa traiasca, numai noi sa nu murim : ))
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