eSA - What is going on?
Day 1,010, 15:35
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by O Senhor do Sertao
eSA - What is going on?
Let's first look at the big picture of relations between SA and Brazil. And then the relations between Brazil and Phoenix.
SA and Brazil
Brazil doesn't have big ambitions around the world. We are always helping Phoenix in your batlles and our only ambition is to have a high titanium region in SA. We don't want to destroy SA. We don't hate the South Africans. In RL we are very friendly with SA.
Many times we have fought against them, to keep control (Argentina too) of high titanium regions.
In the last mouths, we failed many times because we are not sufficiently strong to face his MPPs without the help of Phoenix.
Now without the MPPs, we could do that. Some people ask why we did double the damage in SA than in eRussia. It's logical. After V2, many people don’t feel stimulated using the military module. But for a direct fight for eBrazil, a lot of civilians feel motivated to spend their personal money on it. It was what happened. But our Army was always there fighting for eRussia.
Phoenix and eBrazil
Brazil doesn't have a very big strong army. But we are always fighting by Phoenix and its members. We spent 3.000 GOLDs to defend Lioking. It was a very big cost to us. But we did it. In many situations we help our allies. Including some times we lend big amounts of gold. Our people pay for that. In the last 3 months, the CPs sacrificed our economic growth to make money and help our allies.
We were always waiting for Phoenix to help against eSA MPPs. We fought against Spain in Mexico almost alone.
Now after a personal PTO in SA, some guys are demanding about 370 gold per month to use it...
The big problem today in SA
The problem today is not with Phoenix, eHungary or eSerbia. But it looks like some influential guys want to put their particular interests upon the Phoenix and relations among us and your people. They want money. That's all.
Phoenix's Situation
We are in a very sensitive moment after a lot of victories. eRussia need our attention, and eBrazil needs your attention because of eSpain. We need to stay together to face EDEN.
So think about it - when talk to resolve this small question in SA. Stop flaming the public opinion in your countries. Let's allow the politicians and Phoenix to deal with it. Don't make an unnecessary big trouble with it…
It’s only good for EDEN.
Brazilian people need to be respected
So give respect to Brazilian people. It was a CP president’s decision to go to war. He needs to talk with the official CP and PTOs from eSA and Phoenix. Brazil doesn't attack Phoenix!
The Brazilian people are not betrayers. The president can be charged, the congress can fire him. If you guys continue doing that, maybe you can change the Brazilian public opinion against Phoenix... And it's hard to change it.
We are in war with SA since forever. This PTO won't continue forever...
And about the North Region, if it falls, we will have a babyboom. In RL the North Region is very sensitive for our people. We can double our population in a few days. We can put easily 1,000 real players or more in the battlefield. We are making the arrangements for it and we are getting ready for a big war against Brazil. We will fight like we never fought before. And we will nkow our true allies.
Let's first look at the big picture of relations between SA and Brazil. And then the relations between Brazil and Phoenix.
SA and Brazil
Brazil doesn't have big ambitions around the world. We are always helping Phoenix in your batlles and our only ambition is to have a high titanium region in SA. We don't want to destroy SA. We don't hate the South Africans. In RL we are very friendly with SA.
Many times we have fought against them, to keep control (Argentina too) of high titanium regions.
In the last mouths, we failed many times because we are not sufficiently strong to face his MPPs without the help of Phoenix.
Now without the MPPs, we could do that. Some people ask why we did double the damage in SA than in eRussia. It's logical. After V2, many people don’t feel stimulated using the military module. But for a direct fight for eBrazil, a lot of civilians feel motivated to spend their personal money on it. It was what happened. But our Army was always there fighting for eRussia.
Phoenix and eBrazil
Brazil doesn't have a very big strong army. But we are always fighting by Phoenix and its members. We spent 3.000 GOLDs to defend Lioking. It was a very big cost to us. But we did it. In many situations we help our allies. Including some times we lend big amounts of gold. Our people pay for that. In the last 3 months, the CPs sacrificed our economic growth to make money and help our allies.
We were always waiting for Phoenix to help against eSA MPPs. We fought against Spain in Mexico almost alone.
Now after a personal PTO in SA, some guys are demanding about 370 gold per month to use it...
The big problem today in SA
The problem today is not with Phoenix, eHungary or eSerbia. But it looks like some influential guys want to put their particular interests upon the Phoenix and relations among us and your people. They want money. That's all.
Phoenix's Situation
We are in a very sensitive moment after a lot of victories. eRussia need our attention, and eBrazil needs your attention because of eSpain. We need to stay together to face EDEN.
So think about it - when talk to resolve this small question in SA. Stop flaming the public opinion in your countries. Let's allow the politicians and Phoenix to deal with it. Don't make an unnecessary big trouble with it…
It’s only good for EDEN.
Brazilian people need to be respected
So give respect to Brazilian people. It was a CP president’s decision to go to war. He needs to talk with the official CP and PTOs from eSA and Phoenix. Brazil doesn't attack Phoenix!
The Brazilian people are not betrayers. The president can be charged, the congress can fire him. If you guys continue doing that, maybe you can change the Brazilian public opinion against Phoenix... And it's hard to change it.
We are in war with SA since forever. This PTO won't continue forever...
And about the North Region, if it falls, we will have a babyboom. In RL the North Region is very sensitive for our people. We can double our population in a few days. We can put easily 1,000 real players or more in the battlefield. We are making the arrangements for it and we are getting ready for a big war against Brazil. We will fight like we never fought before. And we will nkow our true allies.
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It's my article.
Hungary did all the work in eSA. And you justcame and take it away what hungarians worked for 4-6 month. And you say it is sensitive?
300 Gold for a high titan region is nothing. And you didnt even wanted to negotiate as i heard. You just took what you want.
Come on, you know this isn't the real problem. Speak with us (Hungary and Phoenix) before you do something! What you wrote about helping your allies is the natural thing. Respect Brazil? Respect your allies!
Good article, but: you know, SA an half official TO, and many hungarian people, feel it our own victory. If brasil want SA why not work it?
If SA candidate for Phx mebership, what is the brasilian answer?
If SA a member of the phx, what is the brasilian answer?
370 gold realy too mucha, I agreed. But a symbolic payment need, and a more constructive brasilian attitude, not the current: No,No,No,NOOO!
If you too much use this word, may hunngarian congress remember it, when vote the renew brasilian MPP.
And for the past and future: I offered my personal money for fight NB rw against the polish, and many hungarian citizens do same. We only want negotiation for agrement.
PS Why need brasil titanium, when own 4 raw? Argentina may want it, but brasil..
Bortam he will not speak,not pay. he will onky everithing. They are not our allies...
Guys, the history have 2 sides... There is a lot of things out of midia ingame. What is important? Please, don't judge the brazilian people, it's unnecessary. Swear the CP, Army! But don't do it against eBrazil. I repeat again: Respect the brazilian people. The CP can be fired. That BS is enough big. Was there some type of official note in eHungary? Or only personal complains? I really want to understand both sides.
Marcelo Braga, respect for your article, but I think the Brazilian government should act more flexible during the negotiations.
@Borembukkk I think the main problem is comunication. Before and after the happening. Both countries need to meet and talk. We both pass the worse impression each other. Both need take it easy. We are not upset about the Hungarians. Some people in eHungary are urging to remove eBrazil from the map because of it... I would agree if it was a region taken by war,but that happening? How you have said, it was a half official PTO. You talk about some interesting questions. Whould a country above PTO join Phoenix? Will eAustralia do it? It's secure? How must everyone deal with coutries in PTO from allies citizens? In eSA is a half official PTO. About titanium, it's a traditional goal from eBrazil. We want to be self-sufficient. It's what incite ours players in game.
@peterbonk, fake we offered gold and help 1 month ago... brazil was negotiating and we even called phx members to watch, but ptoers prefered to troll us and throw threats
btw months ago when we manage to take SA for free we offered to hungary a land and we were even going to pay part of the swaps, but unfortunatelly it fell
"Jazar: fake we offered gold and help 1 month ago..."
you never offered gold for NC or Guateng...liar
🙂
I think this way (what ebrasilian government chooses) is wrong.
And yes we ask, how the hell you could made double damage in SA, than other battles for your allies??
"I think the Brazilian government should act more flexible during the negotiations." x2
"We can double our population in a few days. We can put easily 1,000 real players or more in the battlefield. "
Oh yes, we saw this kind of babyboom (in poland, and yes earlier in brasil). Please don't use binaric names (1011010011101), or big family...
@kukacmiki ""We can double our population in a few days. We can put easily 1,000 real players or more in the battlefield. " Oh yes, we saw this kind of babyboom (in poland, and yes earlier in brasil). Please don't use binaric names (1011010011101), or big family..." I'm not talking about it... If we choose the way, you could see a big family in NB. We have a lot os inactive players and 2x. And if we use blogs and internet midia talk about NB invasion, a lot of people will click and join the game. There is no reason for hostility. The brazilian government problem is not with eHungary.
@Master of Magic ""I think the Brazilian government should act more flexible during the negotiations." x2" The problem is: Who is negociating? The hungarian government or a private pto group? I didn't see a oficial note from eHungary? Could you show me? I heard, this pto was whitout official help from eHungary.
@Igabor72 "I think this way (what ebrasilian government chooses) is wrong. And yes we ask, how the hell you could made double damage in SA, than other battles for your allies??" The answer is: There is a lot of old players, disgusted about the rising, who never fight in v2, and now, the first atack against NC, they feel animated to fight there.And we have a lot of ancient players leaving the game or 2X after the new version. And veteran people working in another countries for more money.In case of defence of the country, we have a lot of fighters, but to travel in mobile forces, we are recruiting new people. The problem is, outside here, nobody know what is happening. I am here to understand there.
Apologize from all Hungarian player who worked for PTO of SA, but i would like to commented this article and i agree with Brazil friends. They always fight for PHX and i think PHX can be a good alliance if PHX can benefit all of the member is there i any chance. Here is the Chance one PHX member would like to reach an HIGH titan region. This region is under control of some independent person. SA is not Hungarian region, not PHX, so i think these person have to be deal with Brazil about these regions and i hope that PHX and Ehungary will support eBrazil. This is the good way.
gamble_24
the good way is eBrasil ASK for Guateng, plan the way to SWAP there, and do the job in a cooperation with eSA.
how can u say eSA is now an independent non-PHX oriented country ROFL🙂
so cuz of the big independence they ALLOW MPPs to RUN OUT?
no, the plan was set, that let the South American HX members to high titanium regions(1-1).
but there were nothing that allowed an attack on NC.
AFTER THE ATTACK ON IT i think the opinion of the PTOers is understandable.
cuz of eSA's 60% income is from NC so
Brasil(/Argentina) should pay all the cost to swap to the high titans(+all the RWs/NC too/), eSA sould not ask more then 100 gold/month for THOSE regions.
the thing is, Brazil got an army, players that like to fight and always fight and population, that only fight when they want even if we tell them to fight... this is i nthe whole world... i can also list battles where hung or other country did much less dmg then others. i got stats from UK where Brazil was top 1 dmg for example 😒
@PS Why need brasil titanium, when own 4 raw? Argentina may want it, but brasil.. ||||
maybe because this way we can raise the production of titanium of the whole alliance?
@Va Gina
So... the group PTO needs a seat in Phoenix and pay to be a membrer... Negociate with independent PTO group is a very dangerous thing. Should Phoenix and his members negociate with private groups? I don't think eBrazil will pay for private PTO group. It's a problem. It's easier pay eHungary. Is it a good thing to rent a region from private groups? They have a seat in Phoenix? Do They pay for that?
@GAMBLE_24
"They always fight for PHX and i think PHX can be a good alliance if PHX can benefit all of the member is there i any chance."
It's not about Phoenix or eHungary GAMBLE. It's was a private PTO from hungarians and some serbians citizens. That is the problem. I dind't see anything official from eHungary (CP). At least in English. Please, show me.
"We will fight like we never fought before. And we will know our true allies."
great article Marcelo. the brazilian people won´t just stand and watch
votado com orgs 🙂
Jazar: http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-402-the-battle-of-far-eastern-russia-in-progress--1499853/1/20
I can see here brasil damage 14.000 71 fighters, While hungary made 51K damage and 144 fighters. So where were brasil again? lease show us some battle where Hungary did less, and Brasil did big damage?
As far as I see Hungary was the one that always put everything for Phoenix but every nation thinks that Hungary is an idiot. They can do what ever they wanzt they will nevere complain. But once we will reach a top.
As far as I see Hungary was the one that always put everything for Phoenix but every nation thinks that Hungary is an idiot. They can do what ever they want Hungary will never complain. But once we will reach a top and say stop. Not any more.
oq é babyboom???
@Peterbond hadi orgja
Nobody is talking about who do more damage... Nobody is calling you hungarians idiots. eBrazil and a lot of countries helped hungary against EDEN in the last mounths of v1. If more people think like you, Phoenix will crash... The point is: Should eBrazil negociate with private PTO team? And pay for them? Or is it logical negociate with Hungary and pay Hungary?