About the Congress deserters
Beaverss Tribute to Raskol
Dear eBelgians, Dear readers, Dear friends,
I have a rant about all these elected members of Congress who are flying away without any consideration for the people who elected them...
eBelgium has seen this lots of times... Foreigners coming to get elected and leaving just after their election, people leaving to join a more powerful (and foreign) MU before a tournament, people disgusted by eBelgium but waiting the election to decide to act regarding this issue, etc.
The last ones are Ayleo and Critically, two RL Belgians, a random player and a guy who pretends to be a RL Lion (everybody knows it's impossible and that only RL Beavers can play Erepublik & write articles!)...
... and they just left... without any expanations, without any reason,... their motherland, their political parties, their under PTO threat community, and their congress seats...
Just, to make the things clear, WHEN YOU LEAVE YOUR CONGRESS SEAT, YOU WEAKEN YOUR CONGRESS, YOUR CONTRY, and all the eDEMOCRACY! Nobody replace you in this seat, which is lost the second you resign...
So, at this stage, the best thing to say would usually be to say, people, don't come in eBelgium only to get political medals, and eBelgians, don't leave it when you're in office, it's totally disrespectful!!
However, I wrote this article to propose another solution: eBelgium, with only 80 voters on election days, maybe don't need so many congress seats. We don't need 30 seats, it depreciates the respect of eBelgium to their institutions.
So, in favour of DEMOCRACY, to improve our beloved eBelgium, I suggest that we shoud lose this war against France and let them have two of our regions (Flanders and Wallonia, to solve all the potential linguistic issue in the same move). Also, it's evident that they could use these, seeing how they're unable to keep most of their own original regions.
Have a look to the funny article of the eBelgian Teddy Beer: http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/it-s-sunday-2393175/1/20
Take care & Join the Beaver Cult,
Beaver
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About the Congress deserters
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Comments
Well about this, both congressmen who left, left because of the admin tournament. They had to change cs to have the same than their MU. Although I agree that's not a good move, this is done just before the next congress election so it should not have heavy impact (there is one due to the NE vote, but ok).
But I agree that of having only a restricted amount of regions could be nice as we indeed have too much for the number of active citizens we have 😉.
Well, yeah, that's the problem, people having their "reasons" to leave. Being candidate to Congress is an engagement towards the population. You are well paid (5 gold) for 4 votes and 2 debates each month, so the minimum is to stay on board until your term end!
Well, most people see the congress as a free medal and nothing more. That's what happens when you don't have enough active scitizens, you have "free" seats that nobody wants to take and so random people fill them in.
BEAVER REVOLUCION!!
TEXAS REVOLUCION!!!
Beaverss, due to the competition rules for Easter, certain of your citizens in the Funky Militia MU have been invited to the UK so that their efforts count. Ayleo has noted this to be a "very" temporary move.
Your congress is not reputed to be very active, making statements like this one is weakening your position as an interesting community to join for regular players. Try to stop chasing people out by jumping to conclusions and do something about making congress life more important. There is a valid reason for your CM moving over and if you would have at least taken the time to inquire about the reason for moving, this whole article wouldn't have been necessary.
Do you consider this game so seriously that you cannot see the lulz? 😶
Also, I'm not in Congress, so I only have the medias to express myself and can't change anything myself 😉
There is no lulz in personal attacks, never was, never will be. You've lowered yourself to a personal attack on a member of my regiment to validate your point and I will not stand for that.
For the rest, not being able to change something yourself is a blatant lie. I've only been in congress 5 times but was still able to make a difference outside of the media for 18 months.
I don't think this article is a personal attack. And I don't think there is really a point in this article either. Or maybe there is? It's still a little bit unclear...
Keep calm & enjoy the sun Nohijs!
I just learnt the other lion-guy did the same, so I adjusted my article 😉
Keep calm o/
It is a personal attack to expose perfectly acceptable and honorable actions as if they were crimes against eBelgium. Playing other people out as dumb by pretending you aren't trying to score political points by discrediting others isn't going to work with me.
The only one who needs to keep calm here is you Beaverss. My tan is perfectly fine. 😛
Actually, their nationality changes are even more ridiculous when we know why they left. I wasn't about to criticize until I read your explanations... For Easter stuff !? Woaw. I understand they didn't leave explanations. That shows their priorities. Well, anyway, I like(d) Critically, but I'll remember next time I'll have to vote for him (if it happens).
So according nationality to MU to be able to count towards a group effort of a group that's larger then eBelgium's active population is less important then doing nothing in congress.
Duly noted Jeiry. I already knew you didn't like playing "with" other people, you just took it a step further.
Thank you for your kind comment Nohjis.
And for your first paragraph : yes, I'm sorry, the "size of the group" does not matter for my choices and thoughts. According the fact he was a Congress Member, I think his move is not a good one, no matter your "size arguments". It's more a matter of principle, due it's supposed responsibilities.
If there were supposed responsibilities in the eBelgian congress I would agree with you. The fact however is that there are none due to the general lack of implication of eBelgians.
Your fantasy doesn't hold up as you don't vote for a candidate anymore either, you vote for parties that don't even propose a program. How do you expect individual candidates to be held accountable for a supposed responsibility if they're not expected to do anything at all by those who vote for them and those who put them on congress lists (party presidents).
A CM can't be held accountable by other CM or even citizens as they have absolutely no control over if someone gets elected or not. Unlike other behaviour sometimes deemed unethical, there has never been a law that makes it punishable to leave your position either. There is thus no need to send out a general warning about leaving congress, the only people who decide if the actions of congress members are "just" are any future party presidents as those are the people who will decide on future eligibility for congress.
So sure, it's not just an eBelgian problem; ePoliticians are mostly lazy and useless once in office. It's the imperfect system we have to live in.
That's an understandable point of view. But it's not the only one possible and it's not mine.
Beaver \o/\o/\o/
It's a shame...
people leaving their Belgian congress seat, after they got 5 gold, to do what?
to help foreign Military Units...
eBelgium: "the place used by eBritish to get easy medals"
Says the rl Italian, that got kicked out of Switzerland who currently holds Polish cs and used both eBelgium and eSwitzerland exactly for that too.
i'm in poland to supply a Belgian MU.
so it's ok to change cs to help your MU then ? 😛
I think Plato is to blame for this situation.
I hope Cthulhu will come for him.
that's why it was better for congressmen to give their 5 golds to the government.
You will have no interest to be, just to work for the country.
I can understand if several want to join a new country to fight for them more.
We are already under eBelgium State racket.
well congressmen are working for the country, they have a medal, then i don't see why they need money to do that. In the past, those golds were good to make mpp's or other projects. With tournament little countries can have easier golds, but before it was hard.
"...their under PTO threat community"
Lol
Beaverss,
when you will finally come to your senses and understand once and forever; We, the people who stayed
here during the wipe are only True eBelgian Patriots. We'll never leave and we’ll never quit this country,
because we care. All the rest; they care only about their own profit, interests, bonuses and etc. I like the
most when some certain individuals; especially I like those Honorary Foreigner's (some of them being
RL Belgians) residing at this moment in other countries coming here; and then they are spilling their
greatness and their wisdom. How we are supposed to run eBelgium and how the things should be, are
supposed to be, tralala-bla-bla-bla. I am hardly controlling myself not to tell them: GO TO HELL; stay
there, where you are; it is best or you, it is best for us; it is best for everyone.
And when we are saying; we are discriminated because not all of our members don’t have access to the
Forum, because the Forum Administrators are biased and applying segregation rules, they say I am
exaggerating.
I thought you were a RL Belgian... so why do you consider yourself as a PTOer?? 😶 You can't be a PTOer where you belong!
I am representing Voiceless and Disadvantaged People of eBelgium. I am their VOICE and their TRIBUNE.
Happy Easter to everyone!!! I am off.
Can a eForeigner even be forum admin, I ask myself? I don't think we should give critically his CS back if he wants it. It's so shameful to just run for congress and then use your CM money to fight for another nation.
Can the forum not have an eForeigner be forum admin I ask myself ?
It's so shamefull when people are allowed to bully others just because their connections are too afraid to be bullied themselves or worse because they think it's funny.
well, i sort of understand their reasoning, but still... When you leave to another country, you leave your previous one behind and start anew. That is unless you're a toolbag or a PTOer. When you move, and a national tournament starts after that nation has already GIVEN you a congress seat, then ffs repay that nation and make an attempt to integrate yourself into their community, fight for their gain, or else why move in the first place?
So though it's tough for me to speak, cause at this point I don't see myself ever leaving my eNation, I still wouldn't let them back in the country if they applied.
+1 Big VOTE
Not in favor of decreasing our number of regions at all. Will make our country less attractive for citizens (so will increase even more our population problems).
I don't know if we can get much less attractive than we are now.
Of course it can be much less attractive : imagine if you'd leave !
Yes, we could lower our amount of regions.
but please...
Not.
Freaking.
France!
I know people interested in Pakistan too 😛
CMs leaving their posts, I can understand it. Just hope they at least were able to vote in the NE law first.
The CMs voting NO, and even worse, the ones not voting at all, should seriously start thinking a bit clearer 😛
If they want to help a MU, why not joining a state eBelgian MU for the time being?
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Perhaps you should wonder why people can leave eBelgium behind so easily, why they don't bother to do that, even if it's temporary.
Articles like this one only make such decission easier.
Yeah, right, that's all my fault
Well, you voted for them not me. 😛
From now on you should all trust ATO. In ATO no one is making silly things 😁.
ATO for the win 😁
In another millennium.
😃 true, in this one others are winning by losing ebe 😁
You didn't?? Don't forget to vote on election days Thorin, next election is in F-O-U-R days, the 25th of this month 😉 (vote ATO)
What do you think, he didn't fall on his head and lost his memory yet.
In Portugal, leaving the congress without an explanation is reason to get into the Blacklist and lose access to the private congress forum.
People have to think 1st if they will have time to spend with congress instead of run just to win the medal...
I don´t know the reasons that made Critically and Ayleo leave their seat, but I hope they´re good.
Voted Mate